The Amazing Spider-Man McFarlane Offers Raimi Some Advice on Venom

[Minus Shock]

Man I wish McFarlane would have sent that memo to Raimi. I mean it seems more threatening to have the Symbiote find a beefier guy after it was attached to Parker ya know? I mean if it makes Parker stronger, what would that do for someone who was already 3x his strength naturally?

 

[nolan's roll'n]

I whole-heartedly agree with everything that McFarlane said, Raimi messed up Venom and they should have brought in an actor to play him who was bulkier and bigger then Maguire. They should have showed a nastier venom and an even more hateful Brock towards Parker. They should have made Brock become pissed at Peter for making him lose his job and what not, and yeah he definitely should'nt have been as skinny as Topher Grace. Although I sometimes still watch That 70's show, lol.

 

[Minus Shock]

I really still wish Topher would have been Peter Parker. Maye I'm alone there, but I just watched Spider-Man 3 again and oy. I really just don't like Tobey Maguire

 

[drax]

The problem that McFarlane don't understand it's that the inspiration of this Venom is from the Ultimates style, and not from the early 90's stuff, his suggestion can't work imo because it's not really the same Venom.

 

[Chocolate eater]

If the inspiration was from the ultimate version, doesn't that mean we would get a bulky and monstrous venom in the movie instead? Unless your talking about the character of the ultimate version... then no since movie venom is much more intelligent and the only thing he shares with his Ultimate cousin are the feral traits.

 

[Minus Shock]

Yeah but the Ultimized Venom was so terrible. I think McFarlane likely doesn't even acknowledge that version of him.

 

[drax]

If the inspiration was from the ultimate version, doesn't that mean we would get a bulky and monstrous venom in the movie instead? Unless your talking about the character of the ultimate version... then no since movie venom is much more intelligent and the only thing he shares with his Ultimate cousin are the feral traits.

I have never said that it was a copy of the ultimates Venom, but more an inspiration (it's for that I don't take the comment of McFarlane about the muscular Venom seriously, also because he don't have any experience for the reality and the difficulty for to do a Movie), I can understand the problem with the Venom, but for me his appearance was cool in the movie, I was already aware of his appearance before to see it, and it was very logic that the Venom would have been a limited appearance (specially because it's not easy to built the link between the symbiote of Parker and Venom for the same movie), but I can understand the frustation of some fans.

I really like the style of Venom in the movie (I like the performance of Topher Grace) and I have no problem with that, and I'm sure that he is not really dead in the end of the movie (they already talk about a spin-off), they can easily make lot of change if they need to do about the character, I really hope to see a Spin-off about the character.

For me the Harvey Dent was far worse and direspectful in the Dark Knight Movie for example (not really a villain, with no action sequence and minor apperance like double face).

 

[Minus Shock]

The decision to use an ultimate inspired Venom though is unnecessary. It wouldn't have been any harder to get a built actor to portray Brock as most know and love him. I think the point of what McFarlane was making was whether it is in Ultimate, or the movie, that is not the Venom that should be seen. Which I agree with him on that point.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I feel like they should of gone with either the 616 or the ultimate, not some half baked mash up. The beefed up 616 version would of been fine, and if I'm not mistaken he was a reporter not a photographer, his venom form would be pretty big, very close to the size of the actor who played him.

The ultimate venom plot could of worked as well, have Brock and Parker be childhood friends, the symbiote corrupts both of them, and make venom the monstrous size like he was in the ultimate comics and have him feed on civilians. And for both versions don't have him screech, have him roar and give him a very deep gravley voice.

 

[Minus Shock]

I feel like they should of gone with either the 616 or the ultimate, not some half baked mash up. The beefed up 616 version would of been fine, and if I'm not mistaken he was a reporter not a photographer, his venom form would be pretty big, very close to the size of the actor who played him.

The ultimate venom plot could of worked as well, have Brock and Parker be childhood friends, the symbiote corrupts both of them, and make venom the monstrous size like he was in the ultimate comics and have him feed on civilians. And for both versions don't have him screech, have him roar and give him a very deep gravley voice.

That would have worked better I think. One or the other.

 

[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

I have never said that it was a copy of the ultimates Venom, but more an inspiration (it's for that I don't take the comment of McFarlane about the muscular Venom seriously, also because he don't have any experience for the reality and the difficulty for to do a Movie), I can understand the problem with the Venom, but for me his appearance was cool in the movie, I was already aware of his appearance before to see it, and it was very logic that the Venom would have been a limited appearance (specially because it's not easy to built the link between the symbiote of Parker and Venom for the same movie), but I can understand the frustation of some fans.

I really like the style of Venom in the movie (I like the performance of Topher Grace) and I have no problem with that, and I'm sure that he is not really dead in the end of the movie (they already talk about a spin-off), they can easily make lot of change if they need to do about the character, I really hope to see a Spin-off about the character.

For me the Harvey Dent was far worse and direspectful in the Dark Knight Movie for example (not really a villain, with no action sequence and minor apperance like double face).

 

[Venom160]

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again. So, while you’d be hard-pressed to find many people who thought the black-suited baddie of “Spider-Man 3” lived up to his hype, the mastermind behind the character is encouraged by what he’s been hearing: Venom could make a return appearance in the next Spidey film. “I co-created Venom,” artist/writer/entrepreneur Todd McFarlane told MTV News. “He was in the last ‘Spider-Man’ movie. And I think he might make an appearance here in the next one, too.”
McFarlane told us that he watched closely as director Sam Raimi developed his alien symbiote character into a role for Topher Grace in the 2007 blockbuster; but as the filmmaker sought to draw a light/dark comparison between the similarly-built Grace and Tobey Maguire, he dropped the ball on a few of the character’s key elements.
“He’s one of the more popular villains of the last ten, fifteen years,” McFarlane explained, offering his advice on the how Venom could be corrected for “Spider-Man 4,” his own spin-off and beyond. “Given that I created him, I have a little bit of a bias.”
“I would’ve done a few things different,” McFarlane said of the shortcomings that hindered the movie version of Venom. “When I first created him, I made him huge. That would’ve been the first thing for me; I would’ve wanted somebody who looked like he was three times the size of Spider-Man, so it was almost like Spider-Man going against the Hulk. [I want] someone who is really formidable; whenever you have a skinny character against a big one it’s like ‘Woah, I’m going to have to work today.’ But instead, the two of them were about the same size.”
Furthermore, McFarlane offered: “I would’ve done something more dramatic. [I also would’ve increased] the nastiness; I never cared too much about the comics code. I always pushed the envelope until the editor said ‘You’d better pull that back.’”
Among the many classic titles that McFarlane worked on over the years is Wolverine, and when he spoke with us, he insisted that the success of that character shows that audiences are ready for a big, bad, bloody Venom.
“I think one of the reasons why Wolverine is so popular is because he did stuff that Captain America or Batman would never do,” McFarlane explained, hoping Venom is properly beefed-up and unleashed in the next “Spider-Man” film. “Today’s generation, they can handle that stuff.”

Sony listen to the McFarlane! You have a chance to fix the character so listen to the guy who had a hand in creating the character. Please don't turn my favorite character into another Barakapool.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I think the best way a venom movie would work is as a prequel to sm4 or sm5, then bring back a corrected character.

 

[thejon93]

I think the best way a venom movie would work is as a prequel to sm4 or sm5, then bring back a corrected character.

Honestly, I don't think that'd work at all. You wanna make a bad 'Venom' movie? Have a lot of unnecessary "explaining" in it. If not, don't explain. And, the audience will be confused. It'd be best if the studio made this 'Venom' film a stand-alone film. They have a character who they can expand upon from the comics, because in the comics, he was never really that interesting nor fleshed-out. The best adaption of the character to date (and in my opinion) has to be the 'Spectacular Spider-Man' version from the cartoon series. They don't have to make it like 'The Dark Knight' or 'Batman Begins' and give us some boring character-study. Just give us a character that's faithful to the comic-book counterpart and, at the same time, give us something that will make the character far more interesting than he's ever been.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Yeah I love how they adapted him in the spectacular spider man cartoon, very clever.

 

[The Overlord]

But really how nasty could you have made Venom in these movies, they are PG-13 after all, he can't do anything R rated and I don't they would let him kill a main character, so what is he supposed to do?

 

[NewYorkSpider]

It's not like they have to show him killing people. All they need to do is gives us an idea on what he's done.

 

[The Overlord]

It's not like they have to show him killing people. All they need to do is gives us an idea on what he's done.

Well then all he could do is kill random civilians in a PG-13 manner, which isn't interesting in of itself unless there is a reason for such behaviour.

 

[The Overlord]

It's not like they have to show him killing people. All they need to do is gives us an idea on what he's done.

Well then all he could do is kill random civilians in a PG-13 manner, which isn't interesting in of itself unless there is a reason for such behaviour.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I have to agree with NYSpider on this one, there are ways it can be done.

 

[The Overlord]

I have to agree with NYSpider on this one, there are ways it can be done.

How?

 

[Venom'sDad]

How?

Read this....

 

[Hobgoblin]

I feel like they should of gone with either the 616 or the ultimate, not some half baked mash up. The beefed up 616 version would of been fine, and if I'm not mistaken he was a reporter not a photographer, his venom form would be pretty big, very close to the size of the actor who played him.

The ultimate venom plot could of worked as well, have Brock and Parker be childhood friends, the symbiote corrupts both of them, and make venom the monstrous size like he was in the ultimate comics and have him feed on civilians. And for both versions don't have him screech, have him roar and give him a very deep gravley voice.

That was my biggest disappointment with Venom. He didnt have the menacing quality that I was expecting. A screech is much less intimidating than a roar or growl.

 

[DACMAN]

Where do reporters and McFarlane get off making this **** up?

Since when is Venom in Spider-man 4 when every indication says that Venom won't be in it.

Does McFarlane even own a computer?

I do. And all they've said so far is one of the characters we think is dead isn't. And the character is closely assoicated with New York.

 

[Spiderine]

They should have went with the fact that Eddie was already working at the Bugle like they mentioned in SM1. He could have already been established and built on that. I knew he was a joke from the moment he came on screen not caring that the so called love of his life was plummeting to her death.