MCU Tag Team Battle (Crossover): Toby, MCU, & Garfield Spider-Men Vs QS, Cap, & Black Panther

[BigThor]

This a fun tag team styled MCU battle thread to break up the monotony of our once a week MCU Fights. It can be 2 on 2, 2 on 2 on 1, 3 on 2, or even 3 on 1. Keep in mind this is purely for just fun and doesn't in any way effect our Power Tier. I've also recently added the new option to be able to change your votes after voting incase your change your mind.

We will now have crossover editions of the tag team battles, including DCEU Universe, Sony, & Fox characters, thanks to my boy PrehistoricDog for the idea

TOBY SPIDER-MAN, MCU SPIDER-MAN, & GARFIELD SPIDER-MAN

Vs.

QUICK SILVER, CAPTAIN AMERICA, & BLACK PANTHER

 

[Batmannerism]

Team Cap takes this. Black Panther has the perfect set of powers and tech to defeat any of the Spider Men. He could probably beat Holland and Garfield by himself. Strangely, while he was the moodiest and lamest of the Spideys Maguire was also the toughest - with the most impressive spider sense and feats of strength, and the only one with built in webbing.

He would take some stopping, especially if he gets pissed off.

 

[Stormborn]

Team Spider-Man takes this and I don't think it's close.

Garfield (the fastest Spidey) and Maguire (the strongest/toughest Spidey) both have a huge speed/reaction time/strength advantage over Cap and Black Panther, along with superior agility plus their webbing and wall crawling. No amount of martial arts skills are going to close that gap and vibranium doesn't protect you from being ragdolled/webbed up.

Quicksilver's fast enough to even the odds a bit but between spider sense and web traps he'll take a hit eventually. In the mean time I don't think he hits hard enough to put Garfield or Holland down, never mind to get through Maguire's incredible durability.

 

[Docker2.0]

Cap, BP, and Quicksilver.

 

[BigThor]

Team Spider-Man takes this and I don't think it's close.

Garfield (the fastest Spidey) and Maguire (the strongest/toughest Spidey) both have a huge speed/reaction time/strength advantage over Cap and Black Panther, along with superior agility plus their webbing and wall crawling. No amount of martial arts skills are going to close that gap and vibranium doesn't protect you from being ragdolled/webbed up.

Quicksilver's fast enough to even the odds a bit but between spider sense and web traps he'll take a hit eventually. In the mean time I don't think he hits hard enough to put Garfield or Holland down, never mind to get through Maguire's incredible durability.

I'm sure Black Panther can slice through webbing and he could also store enough kinetic energy to blast through it.

 

[Docker2.0]

I'm sure Black Panther can slice through webbing and he could also store enough kinetic energy to blast through it.

Not to mention experience and prep advantage. BP invented prep time and can almost do it on his feet. None of the Spidermen have shown any kind of experience to take on anyone on Cap or BP's level.

 

[Stormborn]

I'm sure Black Panther can slice through webbing and he could also store enough kinetic energy to blast through it.

Maybe but once they fully web him up he'll be restrained.

The two adult Spider-Men have some incredible feats, if you take a look at their respect threads Cap and Panther are clearly out of their league:

Not to mention experience and prep advantage. BP invented prep time and can almost do it on his feet. None of the Spidermen have shown any kind of experience to take on anyone on Cap or BP's level.

Maguire's beaten Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom and Sandman.
Garfield's beaten Lizard, Electro, Goblin and Rhino.

They're both experienced, competent fighters in tune with their powers and in this fight they have an overwhelming strength/speed/agility/reaction time advantage over their opponents plus webbing and wall crawling.

As for Black Panther and prep, you must be thinking of the comic version. MCU BP hasn't shown any prep skills.

 

[BigThor]

Maybe but once they fully web him up he'll be restrained.

The two adult Spider-Men have some incredible feats, if you take a look at their respect threads Cap and Panther are clearly out of their league:





Maguire's beaten Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom and Sandman.
Garfield's beaten Lizard, Electro, Goblin and Rhino.

They're both experienced, competent fighters in tune with their powers and in this fight they have an overwhelming strength/speed/agility/reaction time advantage over their opponents plus webbing and wall crawling.

As for Black Panther and prep, you must be thinking of the comic version. MCU BP hasn't shown any prep skills.

I know all of their feats and I also voted for the Spider-Men actually, just saying Panther's tech is something to be reckoned with.

 

[Marvel united]

The Spider-Men take this. They can just web up T'Challa's arms in a crossed position so he can't cut through the webs. Pietro gets KO'd by a web trap and Maguire alone can take Cap

 

[Luigi]

^
Pretty much took the words out of my mouth. Had written something similar to that earlier and was getting ready to post it.

 

[Docker2.0]

Maybe but once they fully web him up he'll be restrained.

The two adult Spider-Men have some incredible feats, if you take a look at their respect threads Cap and Panther are clearly out of their league:





Maguire's beaten Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom and Sandman.
Garfield's beaten Lizard, Electro, Goblin and Rhino.

They're both experienced, competent fighters in tune with their powers and in this fight they have an overwhelming strength/speed/agility/reaction time advantage over their opponents plus webbing and wall crawling.

As for Black Panther and prep, you must be thinking of the comic version. MCU BP hasn't shown any prep skills.

He's only had one movie, his origin.

 

[Batmannerism]

I'm sure Black Panther can slice through webbing and he could also store enough kinetic energy to blast through it.

BP's claws would make short work of any webbing.

 

[Stormborn]

He's only had one movie, his origin.

So?
You claimed MCU BP "invented prep and can almost do it on his feet" but after Civil War, his solo film and Infinity War we've yet to see any prep skills.

Anyway, this is a straight fight so I'm presuming no prep. And the Spider-Men are going to win because of their overwhelming strength/speed/agility advantage plus webbing. They can web T'Challa so he can't get his hands into a cutting position or just repeatedly dodge/overpower/rag doll him.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Spidey is a fave, so I say this with a heavy heart. But team Cap takes this.

Quicksilver is too fast for an individual spidey. And even if black panther couldn't take a single one down on his own, both he and cap are more than capable of finding one off each as quicksilver drops them with a series of thousand punches too the back of the head.

Quicksilver runs in, taking first pick at spideys (tom). He begins the Holland beatdown. Cap and bp (noticing this) strategize and call out their own targets. BP holds off tobey and Cap holds off Andrew.

Quicksilver has now done enough damage to KO Tom spidey and redirected to andrew. The two of them take him out with relative ease. The three of them overwhelm Tobey and then the go eat chicken strips.

 

[BigThor]

Glad someone is finally giving Quicksilver credit, I really think people have been underrating him here so far.

 

[Stormborn]

Spidey is a fave, so I say this with a heavy heart. But team Cap takes this.

Quicksilver is too fast for an individual spidey. And even if black panther couldn't take a single one down on his own, both he and cap are more than capable of finding one off each as quicksilver drops them with a series of thousand punches too the back of the head.

Quicksilver runs in, taking first pick at spideys (tom). He begins the Holland beatdown. Cap and bp (noticing this) strategize and call out their own targets. BP holds off tobey and Cap holds off Andrew.

Quicksilver has now done enough damage to KO Tom spidey and redirected to andrew. The two of them take him out with relative ease. The three of them overwhelm Tobey and then the go eat chicken strips.

I agree MCU Quicksilver's probably team Cap's MVP but the guy has human level strength and durability. He's got no feats of landing thousands of punches. His best striking feats are super speed shoulder barges which knocked down Cap twice (but he got right back up) and knocked pre-Vibranium Ultron back a few feet.

If Quicksilver hits Garfield/Maguire or even Holland they'll get right back up just like Cap did, they're all super durable.

Given Garfield/Maguire both have spider sense, and - although slower than Quicksilver - can move so fast the world appears in slow motion they won't be easy to hit repeatedly and sooner or later they'll land a hit on Quicksilver and that's all it'll take. Plus all three Spider-Men can can easily jump/web out of Quicksilver's reach or create web traps for him.

I actually think Cap will be the first combatant to be taken out. I can't see him lasting longer than a minute against Maguire or Garfield.

Panther will last longer because of his vibranium suit but sooner or later they'll web him in a way he can't cut himself out of.

 

[jolldan]

Team Spider-Man.

Cap goes down first imo, Holland gave him a good go but he was still very green in their first encounter, Maguire is experienced enough to take down Cap I think, especially if he has on the symbiote suit.

Garfield vs. BP I think due to his insane reactionary & speed based feats Garfield can web Panther up eventually.

Holland vs. Quicksilver would be tough but armed with his Iron-Spider suit I do think Holland could hold him off until they have a 3 on 1 advantage and eventually land a leg breaker.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Captain America has shown he is stronger than 1 Spider-Man already. Black Panther has his OP Vibranium Suit now, also. Quicksilver I think the Spider-Men can take down, but not the others.

 

[jolldan]

Captain America has shown he is stronger than 1 Spider-Man already. Black Panther has his OP Vibranium Suit now, also. Quicksilver I think the Spider-Men can take down, but not the others.

What Cap has shown is he is a better fighter than a 6 months on the job rookie Spidey. Pretty sure out of just him and Holland Spidey has the better strength feats doesn't he?

Stopping the 30/40mph car in an instant and grabbing the falling aerobridge surpass anything done by Cap I think. (know im going to be forgetting some glaring feat here lol)

Not trying to be awkward I could easily see the other team winning as well just would pick Rodgers as the weak link.

 

[Spider-Fan]

What Cap has shown is he is a better fighter than a 6 months on the job rookie Spidey. Pretty sure out of just him and Holland Spidey has the better strength feats doesn't he?

Stopping the 30/40mph car in an instant and grabbing the falling aerobridge surpass anything done by Cap I think. (know im going to be forgetting some glaring feat here lol)

Not trying to be awkward I could easily see the other team winning as well just would pick Rodgers as the weak link.

Strength, sure. Spidey is stronger. But Cap is a better fighter. Nothing in Homecoming makes me think he got so much better as a fighter that he can beat Cap. The difference between Cap and Spidey's strength levels is smaller than the difference between their skill/technique levels. Cap wins, no contest.

 

[jolldan]

Strength, sure. Spidey is stronger. But Cap is a better fighter. Nothing in Homecoming makes me think he got so much better as a fighter that he can beat Cap. The difference between Cap and Spidey's strength levels is smaller than the difference between their skill/technique levels. Cap wins, no contest.

You could make an argument against that since I think MCU Cap's top strength output has been shown to be roughly half Spidey's.

Agree though that the combat training would make the difference unless he had his Iron Spider suit I would fancy Steve in a 1 on 1.

 

[Luigi]

As others have pointed out, Quicksilver is a non-threat to Garfield and Maguire. They've been ragdolled by far stronger opponents and have got right back up.

 

[Stormborn]

Strength, sure. Spidey is stronger. But Cap is a better fighter. Nothing in Homecoming makes me think he got so much better as a fighter that he can beat Cap. The difference between Cap and Spidey's strength levels is smaller than the difference between their skill/technique levels. Cap wins, no contest.

I actually agree, MCU Cap still beats MCU Spidey. Holland's the slowest/least skilled Spider-Man though.

I think of you break it down the Spider-Men have a definite advantage, with Maguire and Garfield as the MVPs.

Strength:
Maguire >> Holland > Garfield >>> Cap >= Panther >>> Quicksilver

Skill:
Cap > Panther >> Garfield > Maguire >> Quicksilver >>>> Holland

Durability :
Panther >> Maguire >> Holland > Garfield > Cap >> Quicksilver

Speed/Reactions:
Quicksilver >> Garfield > Maguire >>>> Panther >= Cap >= Holland

Agility:
Garfield > Maguire >> Holland >= BP >= Cap >>>> Quicksilver

Ranged attacks (webbing/shield throws):
Holland > Maguire = Garfield > Cap (N/A for BP and Quicksilver)

 

[Marvel united]

Post-FFH I think many will change their tune about Holland. But Tobey alone could solo both Cap and Quicksliver. This wouldn't even be a fight imo

 

[Stormborn]

Post-FFH I think many will change their tune about Holland. But Tobey alone could solo both Cap and Quicksliver. This wouldn't even be a fight imo

I don't think they're suddenly going to make him a competent hero. The MCU writers seem to have decided to portray Spidey as a powerful but naive, out of his depth rookie for comedy purposes and to make him more distinct from the older heroes. Becoming a competent adult hero that can do things like take on the Sinister Six by the time he hits his prime will probably be a multi-film arc.

Hopefully he'll get some good agility/speed and web slinging feats in Far from Home though because right now he's really nerfed compared to what a young Spider-Man should be capable of.