Michael Bay out of the way!

Discussion in 'Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen' started by luca_frontino, Jun 18, 2009.

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Should Michael Bay leave the franchise?

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  1. Episode29 Hooper Drives The Boat!

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    I would doubt it was ever good. Especially in regards to ROTF, which was rushed like hell through a Writer's Strike to meet a deadline.
     
  2. M.O.Steel Wayne Inc. Tech Support

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    you kinda proved my point with your second post. i personally don't think it was any different between the two, both were written by 12 year olds, but for shoots and giggles, lets say you are correct. i still don't think it is accurate to say that the script was terrible because of a writer's strike(how long are we gonna milk this one anyways?), it was meant to be what it was.

    interesting about the humor, while i thought 90% was cheesy or corny, oddly enough, they all got the huge laughs. and my friends, never seeing anything to do with transformers, including the first movie, said they enjoyed it more than they thought and it was way funnier than they thought it would be. so maybe there is something to it.
     
  3. Marvin Registered

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    there is nothing more subjective then comedy, for any critic to think they can review such a thing is...dumb
     
  4. Batx69 Registered

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    Bay made an hour long battle sceen look borring and uncomprehencable. People seem to say that bay can direct action, no no he cant. 50 explosion and super close ups to the robots scrotem does not a good action sceen make.
     
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    reading your sig, I must say I can see where your coming form...

    people seem to say bay can direct action because when he does it well, he does it better then anyone, what you just described, even though I'm personally not familiar exactly which scene/set piece your referring, wasn't his best

    whereas in this very movie he has plenty of wonderful pieces

    did you know that bay has used a different cinematographer for each film since pearl harbour....
    the guy form TF1 can't remember his name apparently isn't as good as the guy from TF2.
     
  6. Bay needs to step aside man. Why this guy is getting credit for this movie I will never know... But because of How much money this thing has brought in. They will not replace him. If you want bay out. Dont pay to watch the movie. Simple as that.
     
  7. Marvin Registered

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    it's simple really, put his name on a film and it will create buzz

    secondly his films have always been known as nothing more then visual treats with shallow stories

    the first TF comes out and it's one of the most visually praised films to date with half the budget of most...and a shallow story

    the second one opens and the line ups are around the corner at the midnight showing

    what exactly does bay have to do with that?
    vision is all.

    I mean that may not be as much as heath leadgers contribution..
    he's more like the ugly duckling that found his place in the world lol:csad:
     
  8. Alex The Great Registered

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    Micheal Bay Can't leave, if he leaves, TF3 will be crap! No massive explosions and great Visuals......


    Please Bay, stay.
     
  9. Nathan Registered

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    Tone the stupid down is all I ask for.
     
  10. Adrian89 Bad.Ass.

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    +1 Michael Bay!

    This movie is for entertaining, not it's not a drama. It's not the F-in' Brokeback Mountain!:rolleyes:
     
  11. AnorexicBatman Registered

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    I don't understand how people can ignore an extensive comic series attached to toy lines.

    I don't understand why a pirate theme park can have an acclaimed franchise but a comic book series/pop culture icon is expected to be a series of fart jokes and poor storytelling.
     
  12. dark_b Registered

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    POTC is an acclaimed franchise? since when?
     
  13. AnorexicBatman Registered

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    It was until At The World's End...
    Black Pearl is considered a modern adventure classic
     
  14. Minus Shock Captain Simple Jack

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    I dont understand why a movie can't be entertaining, action packed, and have purpose. I mean that seems to be everyone's scapegoat excuse for the abomination that was Transformers 2. "it's not some drama piece". No ****. All I ask for is give me a reason to care. What kind of defense is it to say the movie is for entertainment? So what movies that dont contradict themselves, and make logical sense aren't entertaining? Can anyone say they enjoy movies less when they offer great action, entertainment, and have you connecting to the movie? Why settle for less? That's what I dont understand.

    I dont understand how people can blast one movie with Grand Canyon sized plot holes and defend another one with equal sized and similar plot holes.

    I dont understand why how it could possibly be a positive statement to say "The movie is good if you turn your brain off".
     
  15. dark_b Registered

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    from what i know the POTC franchise was entertainment,action and humor. nothing more.
     
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    Everyone who hated Terminator Salvation but loved Transformers 2 is a hypocrite...
     
  17. Minus Shock Captain Simple Jack

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    Anyone who hated Wolverine but loved Transformers 2 is a hypocrite....
     
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    Agreed. At least Wolverine seemed like something you would read a comic...
    A Rob Liefeld comic but a comic none the less...
     
  19. dark_b Registered

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    i disagree.

    i didnt like Wolverine because they lied that it will ahve interesting characters and a good story. so since it was promoted for this and it didnt have this i was sad. it also didnt have any action scenes that would fit with wolverine. like a violent fight with blood. funny since TF2 had more violence in fights the wolverine.

    TF2 was promted as humor,action,megan fox with bouncing boobs and Shia hyperactive. if you wanted this and you got this then you are happy.
     
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    i didnt hate TS. i think it was a pretty good summermovie. but my complaints are that they promised an important role from Connor. they lied that the rewrittes will make big changes for him. it was a lie. they wrotte some more screentime and some dialoge that didnt have a lot to do with the main story.

    on the other hand everything that was promoted for TF2 was in the movie.
     
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  21. AnorexicBatman Registered

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    EHHHH! WRONG!

    TF2 was promoted as a dark and gritty science fiction war movie...
     
  22. Minus Shock Captain Simple Jack

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    Funny since both movies are pg13 and follow the same rules as far as blood go. When does anyone bleed in Transformers 2?
     
  23. Minus Shock Captain Simple Jack

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    And TF2 also promoted new robots, and suggested that they would have more screen presence than the first one. Yet they managed to scale back everyone but Bumblebee and the idiot twins.
     
  24. AnorexicBatman Registered

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    I wish we could actually see all this inspiration
     
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    spielbergs gremlins were in TF2.
     

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