The Dark Knight More from Ledger

[Seen]

If Katie Holmes had said the same thing about comic book movies would people be defending her like they are Ledger? Honestly.

Well, for starters, Ledger is a respectable talent. On the other hand, Holmes isn't. People tend to take you more seriously when you actually contribute something to the field you work in.

 

[DA Harvey Dent]

People tend to take you more seriously when you actually contribute something to the field you work in.

In any other industry I would agree with this statement. But in acting, no freaking way. There are A list actors out there who have contributed nothing to the acting field yet are taken seriously enough to get projects financed by studios solely b/c their name is attached to that project. Lindsay Lohan immediately comes to mind.

 

[Shedhut]

Well, for starters, Ledger is a respectable talent. On the other hand, Holmes isn't. People tend to take you more seriously when you actually contribute something to the field you work in.

good choice of words and it is thats true indeed t:

 

[Seen]

In any other industry I would agree with this statement. But in acting, no freaking way. There are A list actors out there who have contributed nothing to the acting field yet are taken seriously enough to get projects financed by studios solely b/c their name is attached to that project. Lindsay Lohan immediately comes to mind.

By "people", I mean the posters on this forum.

 

[DA Harvey Dent]

By "people", I mean the posters on this forum.

Gotcha.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

This is the title of an article on IGN I found. It seems fitting for this thread.

Scarface Writer Not Sold on Movie Games
Of course, his game is awesome. It's the other ones you need to watch out for.

 

[Retroman]

Well, for starters, Ledger is a respectable talent. On the other hand, Holmes isn't. People tend to take you more seriously when you actually contribute something to the field you work in.

So you're basically you're saying that Ledger has contributed more to the acting than Holmes? Thats a fair point i guess.
And i agree that his words do hold more weight to the general audience now that he's an Oscar nominee and all but that doesn't mean i need to agree with him.Saying you hate comic book movies and signing on to star as one of the biggest villains depicted in those movies reeks of hypocracy.

I am more and more confident Ledger will do a good job and honestly like what both Nolan and he have said about what they want to do with the Joker in TDK. But his comment just doesn't really sit well with me.

I don't like war movies per se but there are good war movies out there, you know?

 

[Retroman]

"When he explained to me the angle he wanted to take, I was like, 'Yeah, I could do that,'" Ledger says. "[Nolan's] going to make it a lot more sinister, and we've got a little plan for him, but it's exciting. Any opportunity to don a mask is always exciting to me." [/B]

http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html

He needs to stop bringing up the mask thing. Its freeking people out.

 

[DA Harvey Dent]

He needs to stop bringing up the mask thing. Its freeking people out.

Maybe that's why he's doing it. He probably knows the fanboys will get their panties in a bunch and he's doing it to mess with them. Lord knows I would if I were in his position.

 

[chintai80]

Maybe that's why he's doing it. He probably knows the fanboys will get their panties in a bunch and he's doing it to mess with them. Lord knows I would if I were in his position.

Proves how much he fits the Joker's persona...a ****in' a**hole!!!

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Ledger made me laugh with those quotes. All he had to do was point at a fanboy and say I **** your mother and that would have sealed the deal.
I guess you gotta respect it, I like more than some dudes who say "Oh I have been a fan all my life, I read the comics growing up" (you dont have to say that..) or try to be vauge when your not sure about a comic book ( uhm.. I saw the cartoon...I didnt reeeally read the comic).
He just gave his opinon straight up. He was so matter of fact about it too. Seemed hilarous.

 

[Ambassador Sexy]

all the people dissing Ledger because he doesn't like comic movies are idiots. You think because he got cast in batman he has to love Hulk, Superman, DD etc. You think he has to sound like an appreciative little b**ch, kiss the ass of fanboys etc. Umm how about no. He's a an actor and a person and he's entitled to his opinions. he didn't have to do this film, he chose to do it because Chris Nolan didn't make a typical comic book movie(supposedley lol). So get off his back and don't whine like little babies anytime an actor shows anything less than 1000% admiration of the comic book movie world, cos hes right, most of them suck.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Why exactly are people jumping all over Heath Ledger for his comment? He's basically complimenting Chris Nolan by saying he hated comic book movies, but Chris Nolan's excellent work on "Batman Begins" totally changed his perspective. He likes Batman, he's excited about playing The Joker, what else do you want? Why is having "X-Men", "Spider-Man" and "Fantastic Four" on his top ten favourite movies list essential to his performance?

 

[Cinemaman]

You're just tired of your own game.

You accused me of being something I am not. Then you can't stand me proving you wrong on that.

Go and hide behind any member you choose.

What the game? Can you just stop saying this crap.

Sorry, but from what I remember, you always was against BB in argues. Maybe I am wrong though.

 

[Cinemaman]

You are right. He has mentioned it twice, so Ledger may be actually talking about a literal mask. If so, then it has to be related to his origins as the Red Hood, though at the end of BB, its confirms that he is already calling himself the Joker.

Again, I don't think Nolan is stupid enough to do something radically different from what has been portrayed in the comics, SO this will be rooted from the comics.

Why I have feeling that it was just that part from previous interview with Ledger (when he 1st time mentioned this "mask")? Maybe he didn't even say this and that was something like 2nd part of interview, which had been changed into new one.

If they put there mask for Joker (like what we saw in V for Vendetta), then it will totaly suck.

If he talks about Red Hood, this also isn't so excellent news for me.

But if he again used "mask" with not literal meaning, then I am happy with this.

Don't think Nolan will be so unfaithful to comics this time (as he also wasn't during the making of BB).

 

[Cinemaman]

New from BOF


Ledger on The Joker -- Again!
Author: Jett
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 - 12:34 PM: After being silent for about a month since word broke that he’d been cast as The Joker in THE DARK KNIGHT, Heath Ledger has talked quite a bit about nabbing the part here of late. Here’s the latest from MSN.COM:

It's Ledger's next role as Batman's nemesis The Joker in Chris Nolan's "The Dark Knight" that has fanboys' tongues wagging. Ledger says he hasn't paid attention to the scuttlebutt on the Web about his casting and wasn't that surprised to get the offer from Nolan.


"When he explained to me the angle he wanted to take, I was like, 'Yeah, I could do that,'" Ledger says. "[Nolan's] going to make it a lot more sinister, and we've got a little plan for him, but it's exciting. Any opportunity to don a mask is always exciting to me."

[BATMAN (1989)] was dominated by Jack Nicholson's acclaimed performance as the psychotic villain, but Ledger isn't intimidated by his predecessor's turn.

"I love, love, love what Nicholson did," Ledger says. "[But] his performance was catering to the style of directing the movie was made under. It was a Tim Burton film. It wasn't Chris Nolan."

Got a little plan for him eh? Can't wait to see what it is...

http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html

It sounds like he respects what Nicholson did, but he wants to show us a new Joker.

The same what Nolan says.

 

[Cinemaman]

Why exactly are people jumping all over Heath Ledger for his comment? He's basically complimenting Chris Nolan by saying he hated comic book movies, but Chris Nolan's excellent work on "Batman Begins" totally changed his perspective. He likes Batman, he's excited about playing The Joker, what else do you want? Why is having "X-Men", "Spider-Man" and "Fantastic Four" on his top ten favourite movies list essential to his performance?

True

 

[Bad Superman]

He needs to stop bringing up the mask thing. Its freeking people out.

Yeah. . . I'm one of them. . . .

 

[Mr. Thing]

There's a big chance he will wear a mask. But not V style, probably more like a mask that sticks to the skin. Not one that would be a mask in the sense of the movie.

 

[Seen]

So you're basically you're saying that Ledger has contributed more to the acting than Holmes? Thats a fair point i guess.
And i agree that his words do hold more weight to the general audience now that he's an Oscar nominee and all but that doesn't mean i need to agree with him.Saying you hate comic book movies and signing on to star as one of the biggest villains depicted in those movies reeks of hypocracy.

I am more and more confident Ledger will do a good job and honestly like what both Nolan and he have said about what they want to do with the Joker in TDK. But his comment just doesn't really sit well with me.

I don't like war movies per se but there are good war movies out there, you know?

Well, he did speak positively of BATMAN BEGINS. If he bashed that, then we'd really have reason to worry.

 

[Caliber]

Maybe that's why he's doing it. He probably knows the fanboys will get their panties in a bunch and he's doing it to mess with them. Lord knows I would if I were in his position.

Or they forgot Joker first appeared as the criminal Red mask.

 

[Thespiralgoeson]

Or they forgot Joker first appeared as the criminal Red mask.

That's probably because he never did appear as the Red Mask. He appeared as the Red Hood.

 

[ultimatefan]

If Katie Holmes had said the same thing about comic book movies would people be defending her like they are Ledger? Honestly.

Heh, if Glover or Bettany had been cast and said the same thing, a lot of the Ledger haters would be defending him.

What do you people actually care the guy isn´t into comic book movies in general? He´s not making a Spider-Man movie or an X-Men movie. He digs Nolan´s take on Batman movies and is working on them. Nobody has any obligation to like all comic book movies. Actually most people on these boards probably think most comic book-based movies suck - this is changing, but is still mostly true.

 

[Dark Knight]

all the people dissing Ledger because he doesn't like comic movies are idiots. You think because he got cast in batman he has to love Hulk, Superman, DD etc. You think he has to sound like an appreciative little b**ch, kiss the ass of fanboys etc. Umm how about no. He's a an actor and a person and he's entitled to his opinions. he didn't have to do this film, he chose to do it because Chris Nolan didn't make a typical comic book movie(supposedley lol). So get off his back and don't whine like little babies anytime an actor shows anything less than 1000% admiration of the comic book movie world, cos hes right, most of them suck.

Exactly ^

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Exactly ^

I don't like it because it's a typical promotion line.