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More Twilight movies on the way (evidently)

I thought everyone had forgotten about this ****ing franchise.
 
In other words, Lionsgate is broke and out of ideas.
 
I can't see Robert Pattinson at this point in his career reprising the role for a movie version, unless they hired Robert Eggers or someone to direct. All in black in white. With Willem Dafoe as the one who turned him into a vampire. And their tragic love affair throughout the ages. Ok, I'll watch with at least one of those things.
 
I don't like these films but honesty I was a complete a-hole about them during their heyday and I regret it. The truth is we don't hold films for young men to near the same standard as we do for young women. Bella Swan didn't have to be a good role model to teenage girls. The films works as escapist entertainment for it's intended audience, and most people won't look at Bella and Edward's relationship as great example of true love.

More often than not a film being a good watch has very little to do with whatever message it's intentionally or unintentionally sending in my opinion, so those criticisms I used to have don't hold much water. It's why complaints of certain films being inherently terrible because they have a supposed social justice agenda is complete nonsense as is the idea that something like 300 is a bad film because it has a bad message. No, generally a film being successful is about execution.

It's not what it's about but how it's about it, as I've heard said.

Twilight isn't good to me but I definitely don't despise it like I once did. And, I don't think the idea that it has a screwed up relationship at the center of it that's as big an issue as it just not jiving with some people's sensibilities, typically male sensibilities.. It seems our society is hyper-critical of the message a film targeted at women, and not as much stuff targeted at men, which is a shame.

I'm also tired of this mentality within film criticism that's it's a filmaker's responsiblity to change society in some way, when maybe the filmaker's intent, especially in say a comedy, is to merely show what society is, and laugh at it, This might surprise you but a lot of people, especially in comedy have a nihilistic streak in them, whether that's the right way to veiw the world is irrelevant as long as the piece reaches the audience, and in my example makes them laugh. It's why I do have issue with someone like Pop Culture Detective on YouTube at times because he seems to push this idea that if a peice doesn't reflect his ideals then it shouldn't exist, even if it's not harming anyone in an immediate or direct sense, it's something I used to believe was mostly a right wing thing, but I see lefties doing it too. Trying to strong arm content makers into pushing their idea of utopia on their platform or whatever. Anyway, having said that his content is quite interesting so check it out. LOL tangent on messages and morality in film, sorry.
 
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I don't think people should be made fun of for liking Twlight, and I didn't even back in the day (well, maybe a little at the most extreme Twilight fans), and I understand that the property, like Fifty Shades of Grey, is more equivalent to bodice-ripping Harlequin romance novels than, I don't know, Little Women. However, I think movies have to be open to criticism. I would say that saying people can't bash a movie because it's not for them is along the same lines as saying a movie can't send the wrong message even when it's not sending a message, in terms of sanitizing society. As far as I'm concerned, if there's women (or men) out there who want to bash Die Hard or Under Siege or whatever, they certainly can.

Some guys are going to be d****s about it, and maybe guys are d***s about it more than women are when guys criticize romantic comedies or tearjerker dramas, and maybe that pushes women into silence and misrepresents popularity, but it doesn't change that I dislike Twilight. Breaking Dawn Part 1 is one of the worst movies I've ever seen, and I'm not attacking women by that any more than I'm attacking men when I say Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. They're just terrible movies to me.
 
I don't think people should be made fun of for liking Twlight, and I didn't even back in the day (well, maybe a little at the most extreme Twilight fans), and I understand that the property, like Fifty Shades of Grey, is more equivalent to bodice-ripping Harlequin romance novels than, I don't know, Little Women. However, I think movies have to be open to criticism. I would say that saying people can't bash a movie because it's not for them is along the same lines as saying a movie can't send the wrong message even when it's not sending a message, in terms of sanitizing society. As far as I'm concerned, if there's women (or men) out there who want to bash Die Hard or Under Siege or whatever, they certainly can.

Some guys are going to be d****s about it, and maybe guys are d***s about it more than women are when guys criticize romantic comedies or tearjerker dramas, and maybe that pushes women into silence and misrepresents popularity, but it doesn't change that I dislike Twilight. Breaking Dawn Part 1 is one of the worst movies I've ever seen, and I'm not attacking women by that any more than I'm attacking men when I say Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. They're just terrible movies to me.
Nothing is above criticism so I do agree. I'm just of the opinion that the message of a film doesn't necessarily make something good or bad, but it's definitely not cut and dry as sometimes a message can bug me. I do try to mostly judge the presentation of things though. Some things do definitely cross a line in terms of messaging for even myself, so it's not an exact science, but my general stance is messaging is not as important.
 
Yeah, this series got way more hate than it deserved. I mean it’s not good but you would think it was actively hurting people with the amount of vitriol it and everyone involved with it received. The Fast and Furious movies are “meant to be” enjoyed with your brain off but Twilight absolutely has to be evaluated critically and analytically.

That being said it’s hilarious that this is happening and poor Robert is going to be dragged back into this kicking and screaming whether he likes it or not :funny:. He tried so hard to get away from his Edward Cullen/teen heartthrob image but now Twilight is back and whether he stars in the adaptation or not, everyone is going to be asking him about this during promo for Tenet and Batman even maybe :p.
 
I can't see Robert Pattinson at this point in his career reprising the role for a movie version, unless they hired Robert Eggers or someone to direct. All in black in white. With Willem Dafoe as the one who turned him into a vampire. And their tragic love affair throughout the ages. Ok, I'll watch with at least one of those things.
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Robert Pattinson wasn’t exactly subtle about hating Twilight while he was doing Twilight, and he’s still trying to get past being seen as “the sparkling emo vampire”, so I don’t see him touching this with a ten foot pole.
 
Can't be too shocked. They made tons of money.
 
As pointed out before, Pattinson doesn’t have the highest opinion on the series, so I think Robert Pattinson is about as excited about this as most of us in this thread are. He’s more done with Twilight than Daniel Radcliffe is done with Harry Potter. Heck, Daniel did a read-through of a chapter from the first Harry Potter book. Can’t even see Pattinson ever doing that with Twilight. He’s done.
 
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Can't be too shocked. They made tons of money.
Yes but Twilight had its day in the sun already. Too much time has passed since the last one and the target fanbase has outgrown it. It's not something like Star Wars or Harry Potter that has endured over time. The success rate for resurrecting dormant franchises these days is pretty low with Jurassic World having the best results.
 
Twilight movies can be made for pretty cheap, though, when they're not CGIing werewolves and doing large scale battles.
 
Yes but Twilight had its day in the sun already. Too much time has passed since the last one and the target fanbase has outgrown it. It's not something like Star Wars or Harry Potter that has endured over time. The success rate for resurrecting dormant franchises these days is pretty low with Jurassic World having the best results.

It's still a brand name.
 
If Rowling can do it, so can Meyer. I never thought I’d even be making a comparison between these two.
 
They hit with their one gold idea and have a hard times following it up with something different thus they go back to the goldmine. Meyer tried to create a Host franchise as well which kind of sizzled away.

What I admire about Stephen King is the man's been around for 40 years and is still cranking out new ideas that get turned into movies/TV.
 
As pointed out before, Pattinson doesn’t have the highest opinion on the series, so I think Robert Pattinson is about as excited about this as most of us in this thread are. He’s more done with Twilight than Daniel Radcliffe is done with Harry Potter. Heck, Daniel did a read-through of a chapter from the first Harry Potter book. Can’t even see Pattinson ever doing that with Twilight. He’s done.

Radcliffe made an obvious effort to distance himself from Harry Potter in his subsequent career choices, but I don't think he has animosity toward it.

Pattinson just blatantly was done with Twilight while it was still ongoing, lol.
 

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