Mortal kombat................... Redo!!!!!!!

[I'm Old Greg]

exactly, that was a 40 second Comercial....its not about BUDGET its about talented artists and a director that can do it justice.

 

[Jager X]

exactly, that was a 40 second Comercial....its not about BUDGET its about talented artists and a director that can do it justice.

Like street fighter legacy.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Easily? The first and second movie beg to differ.

Mortal Kombat is about a series of one-on-one fights. That's not a story. The 'story' is just an excuse to explain why they are fighting. No-one plays Mortal Kombat for the story.

Here we go again with this argument, which as we've seen from numerous posters on here that yes, many of us do play the game for both the fighting and the cool story lines.... the ones which you give absolutely no credit to.

 

[T-Ray]

I agree that the trailer is very overrated and not very faithful to the source material at all. Mortal Kombat has always been very comic bookish, and if you get rid off all the fantastical elements, what's left? That short was basically just a very violent fighting movie that happened to have some familiar names in it. I think Penny Arcade summed it up best:

It's pretty easy to see why the pitch didn't get picked up, IMO. It simply does not resemble Mortal Kombat enough that Warner Bros. would want to entrust the license to it. They could easily just change the names and they'd have a completely unrelated new IP, If you're going to put the name Mortal Kombat on something though, it had friggin' better at least somewhat look like the game.

This pitch trailer goes far beyond what Christopher Nolan did to the Batman mythos. This is more like if you took X-Men, and tried to make a movie out of it without giving anyone superpowers.

Totaly agree!

So... What's next "realistic edgy" reboot:

Say... Lord Of The Rings (I make this up as I type, BTW)?

An American spy Dick "The King" Johnson defeats Ahmed al'Sauron and acquire the microchip that contains the code for controling all of world's nuclear weapons. After some spy-counterspy shanenigans, "The king" gets killed, and the chip is lost.... WHOAH, SO REALISTIC... The chip travels from one to another... The stoner hippie Billy "The Golum" Attkins", the nerd Fred Baggins and the likes, and the international military group (comprised of American posterboy grunt underdog John "the Ranger" Johnson (later revealed to be the heir to the late Dick Johnson.. well, duh...), sharpshooter Hulio "Leg-less" Estavez, Chinese spy sexy token lady Arwen Lao, African powerhouse Derek "Gimme" Lee.... Together, they must bring the chip to the midle eastern secret base called Mordor to give it to the only scientist in the world who can format it...

Or how about the dark avenger who dresses in black, stalks the streets of Gotham... and beats the criminals with a baseball bat (Police names him the Bat-Man because of that fact).... ?

Honestly, would enybody watch movies like theese?

I'm all for toning down cheesy stuff and such and for emphasising the STORY and THE POINT, but not at the cost of "In Name Only Syndrome"!

I hate to rant, but I felt a need to state MY opinion! Sorry!

 

[Nathan]

edit: here's his design for Sub-Zero...

http://www.mknexusonline.com/archive/SubZero_01a.jpg

Sweet, I've never seen this one before.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

Honestly, would enybody watch movies like theese?

I'm all for toning down cheesy stuff and such and for emphasising the STORY and THE POINT, but not at the cost of "In Name Only Syndrome"!

I hate to rant, but I felt a need to state MY opinion! Sorry!

why would anyone watch them, well as you can see from certain posters in this thread, it's because they have no damn intelligence. (as there's actually people supporting this cow dung).

like I said, that clip is no more faitful and accurate than Legends of Chun Li was to the Street Fighter legacy. (which, as you put it, fell subject to "In Name Only Syndrome").

I like the Street Fighter clip that was posted on these boards a couple of weeks back, supposedly some professionals got together and shot a promo of how a REAL Street Fighter movie should be done:

they said it in that clip and I'll repeat it here: The look of the character is one of the MOST IMPORTANT aspects you need to get right when adapting something. The character needs to look 100% like he does in the source material

^if you can't get that right, there's no point in even making the damn thing.

when you switch the look of a character, that = Automatic FAIL SAUCE

 

[Jager X]

I am REALLY digging those designs that Dorky Fresh posted. If anyone ever decide to make another MK film, they should ask that guy for permission to use his take on the characters. Now, that is how you bring something visually new to a character without compromising them. I especially love Raiden since he reminds me of the source of his inspiration, Lightning from Big Trouble in Little China.

 

[comicfan4Life]

I agree. There are just certain things you don't mess with. The world and characters of MK are what make MK. As a kid I grew up playing MK trilogy, MK4, and MK Gold which was just MK4 with more characters, and I fell in love with the game. I wanted to play and learn everything. I got Mk Shaolin Monks just to play classic MK 2, and it is one of those things that can't be changed.

I can't stand this realism crap ever since dark knight came out. There is no realism with a man in a bat outfit taking on the mob no more than there's a realistic way to have an ice ninja freeze some one, they just do it because it's apart of their character and apart of their world. I want MK as it should be, and if hollywood can't handle an actual spear coming out of the hand of a ninja spectre then they shouldn't be anywhere near the project. Do it right or not at all.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

it's a real simple concept aint' it comicfan?

and I'm glad there's professionals out there that feel the same way, now all the nay sayers can shut their damn mouths about certain "superhero's" costumes not working in live action as well. If they're costumes can't work in live action, then don't bother adapting it to live action at all (i.e. X Men, Batman).

 

[Nathan]

they said it in that clip and I'll repeat it here: The look of the character is one of the MOST IMPORTANT aspects you need to get right when adapting something. The character needs to look 100% like he does in the source material

^if you can't get that right, there's no point in even making the damn thing.

when you switch the look of a character, that = Automatic FAIL SAUCE

That's not always the case, a character doesn't always need to look 100% like in the source material. Best example is Batman. He never looks 100% as he does in the comics, but he keeps the essentials. He has his ears, cape, Bat symbol, but the material and the design of the rest of the suit was always different from the comics.

Also, MK is a franchise where pretty much every character had a design change in each new game. So you've got a lot of leeway how you portray the characters on screen, as long as they stay recognizable. Baraka was not recognizable in the slightest in that clip. Not because he didn't wear the correct getup, but because of his hair and the way his face looked, nothing about it was Baraka. The only clues you had were his arm blades. Same with Reptile, he was just reeeaaallly ugly.

Some characters I don't mind if their outfits look nothing like the games. I didn't mind at all that Sony Blade didn't have green leggings in the first Movie and that Johnny Cage was running around in normal pants and a shirt. The actors themselves were recognizable enough as the game characters.

And Mortal Kombat is different from Street Fighter. The characters in Street Fighter look pretty much the same in every game. We only know Ryu and Ken in their white and red Gis and that's what people expect when a Street Fighter movie gets made.

 

[comicfan4Life]

it's a real simple concept aint' it comicfan?

and I'm glad there's professionals out there that feel the same way, now all the nay sayers can shut their damn mouths about certain "superhero's" costumes not working in live action as well. If they're costumes can't work in live action, then don't bother adapting it to live action at all (i.e. X Men, Batman).

Damn straight!

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

well I've always hated Nolan's look for Batman and enjoyed the B89, Returns, and the bulk of Forever's suits much better than Nolan's, but at the same rate, still waiting for the day we get an adaption of the comic book Batman on the big screen.

and maybe 100% was over exagerating, but no less than 90%

any less than that and you're just deriving TOO MUCH from the character. If you can find that street fighter clip, the guys who made that put it into much better words than I can.

 

[Nathan]

I watched it, but the fact is still that SF is different from MK. Look at the MK games, in almost every game the character underwent a re-design. Not even in the first Movie did the characters look exactly like in the game, but they were awesome regardless. Like Shang Tsung, who probably got the most radical change, but he was a complete badass. And it kinda made sense that someone who uses other people's souls as a life force, would stay young.

 

[KenK]

He also directed all of the crappy Resident Evil movies. As far as I know, the only good movies he's made are Event Horizon and the first Mortal Kombat.

He only directed the first one and the upcoming fourth film.

 

[Nathan]

He also directed the 3rd one. I think he acted as producer on the 2nd.

 

[Majik1387]

Basically, an inter-dimensional warlord named Shao Khan wants to conquer Earth, but do to the laws of his world he is not allowed to enter our dimension unless his champion can defeat a champion representing Earth. Thus, the Mortal Kombat tournament is formed to determine which Earth warrior will face Shao Khan. There are good beings known by Earth's inhabitants as The Elder Gods who enforce inter dimensional law, and they send the lesser god Raiden to aid Earth's warriors and participate in the tournament. That is the premise in a nutshell, but there's tons of separate storylines for each character.

So pretty much the original movies, but not campy or horribly acted?

 

[Iron_Stark]

He also directed the 3rd one. I think he acted as producer on the 2nd.

No someone else directed Extinction.

 

[Nathan]

Alright, so he's been producer on 2 movies, but it doesn't matter who directed it. He wrote the terrible script.

 

[enterthemadness]

No someone else directed Extinction.

The guy that directed Highlander and Highlander 2 directed the third Resident Evil movie.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0611683/

He also did the DTV movies Scorpion King 2 (prequel) and Give em Hell Malone with Thomas Jane.

Alright, so he's been producer on 2 movies, but it doesn't matter who directed it. He wrote the terrible script.

I don't care fo him writing scripts, as a director...visually, I like his style.

 

[Jager X]

I watched it, but the fact is still that SF is different from MK. Look at the MK games, in almost every game the character underwent a re-design. Not even in the first Movie did the characters look exactly like in the game, but they were awesome regardless. Like Shang Tsung, who probably got the most radical change, but he was a complete badass. And it kinda made sense that someone who uses other people's souls as a life force, would stay young.

I agree with you on the redesign of the MK characters bit. I can easily accept changes to a characters look so long as they don't strip away the most recognizable traits. Sonya Blade in green spandex purely a 90s concept and can be replace by something as simple as wearing fitting MMA gear under her commando pants or something. I think the original Mortal Kombat movie was successful with this. Johnny Cage in a bussiness suit would make sense if he is walking blindly into a world where he has to defend himself the moment he lands on the island. Plus, it was hilarious that he was so vain that he brought a ton of luggage that could have potentially had his fighting gear but was lost.

But with that being said. I think I can compare both short films simply due to both teams proclaiming the love for the source with relatively the same budget, but only one visually staying true to their sentiments. If SF: Legacy had not been made then I would have been more lenient on the guy for his limited budget affecting the characters. But when looking at both products, I can't help but to call BS on the budget excuse for making the characters like that.

 

[cin0]

Sub-zero looks ugly, though.

 

[GhostPoet]

I think the thing that is bugging me the most is that they left behind any and all asian themed elements and completely whitened the series up with this film concept.

I would have been all for it if they actually focused more on the asian elements that the series carries.

 

[Nathan]

Reptile in a flannel shirt says it all.

 

[TNC9852002]

I think the thing that is bugging me the most is that they left behind any and all asian themed elements and completely whitened the series up with this film concept.

I would have been all for it if they actually focused more on the asian elements that the series carries.

What kind of Asian themed elements could've been integrated given the set-up? and I think completely whitened up makes little sense to me.

 

[T-Ray]

That's not always the case, a character doesn't always need to look 100% like in the source material. Best example is Batman. He never looks 100% as he does in the comics, but he keeps the essentials. He has his ears, cape, Bat symbol, but the material and the design of the rest of the suit was always different from the comics.

Also, MK is a franchise where pretty much every character had a design change in each new game. So you've got a lot of leeway how you portray the characters on screen, as long as they stay recognizable. Baraka was not recognizable in the slightest in that clip. Not because he didn't wear the correct getup, but because of his hair and the way his face looked, nothing about it was Baraka. The only clues you had were his arm blades. Same with Reptile, he was just reeeaaallly ugly.

Some characters I don't mind if their outfits look nothing like the games. I didn't mind at all that Sony Blade didn't have green leggings in the first Movie and that Johnny Cage was running around in normal pants and a shirt. The actors themselves were recognizable enough as the game characters.

And Mortal Kombat is different from Street Fighter. The characters in Street Fighter look pretty much the same in every game. We only know Ryu and Ken in their white and red Gis and that's what people expect when a Street Fighter movie gets made.

The visual design of the characters is important, I agree with that! I mean not the carbon copy of the source material, but the design has to draw a lot from the source. If you look at the X-Men movie costumes and character designs (often quoted for bad design, unfotunately), they are pretty faithful (tiger stripes on Wolverine's, vizor for Cyclops, Magneto's helmet AND CAPE!, green hued Toad, BLUE Mystique and Beast....), except for the color of the costumes to make it blend better with the visual design of the rest of the movie, and it worked. Same with Batman! you could recognize those characters without knowing their names! Designs in the clip were random, IMO!

What makes Mortal Combat characters so awesome is that they took same old trope token characters and made them iconic! We have ninjas, but most of people will reckognize MK ninjas as MK ninjas and not as some random, well, ninjas! If you strip the traits that made them look and act iconic, than you make them random characters (as seen in Legend of Chun Li and Ghost Rider)!

The big question is: When did we lost all of imagination? Why is it so hard to suspend disbelief when we go to movies? Why try to make FANTASY to look REAL?