Comics Most violent and graphic spiderman comic?

[MyPokerShirt]

I really like spiderman comics that are violent becuase it gives the story a more serious and adult aspect. The most violent novel i read was 'The Other'; spiderman gets his eye ripped out, quite shocking.

So i was wondering if you guys could give me the heads up on any spiderman comics/ graphic novels that are aimed more towards adults; more darker and violent stories.

spider-man isnt the book for realism and violence. try some adult books, like Powers, DMZ, Punisher (on marvel's MAX line) or something kid-worthy like wolverine, which is still meant for violence.

 

[Ultra-Spidey]

I really like spiderman comics that are violent becuase it gives the story a more serious and adult aspect.

So i was wondering if you guys could give me the heads up on any spiderman comics/ graphic novels that are aimed more towards adults; more darker and violent stories.

I can agree, although Spidey is one of the more "light-hearted" or "family-friendly" comic characters around I like to see him in more "edgier" and "adult oriented" stories.

With that in mind I would recommend Todd McFarlane's "Spider-man" books. When I started collecting Spidey books was when McFarlane was pretty much at the height of his run on the Amazing Spider-man, then came "his own" Spider-man book. McFarlane's Spider-man run is very dark and adult oriented, starting with issue 1 thru about up to issue 16 I believe. All 4 story arcs had Spidey dealing with murders, with the last arc even dealing with murdered children!?!?!?!?! A truly unique take/aspect on your "friendly-neighborhood Spider-man.

I just wish McFarlane would have stuck around for a bit longer, he had mentioned doing a story arc featuring Green Goblin and an arc featuring Venom, those could have been great.

Til this day I believe McFarlane was pretty much forced off the book more than anything. I remember his "Spider-man" books getting ALOT of negative feedback because many fans were ferious that the books were too dark. Fans stating that the stories were out of touch for a character like Spidey and they weren't Spider-man comics anymore, they were reading Batman. Well issue 1 does say "Legend of the Arach-Knight" on the cover. And what made me even more upset was that there were 3 other Spidey titles to choose from back then!!!! Even with all the McFarlane haters out there I still think his time on both Amazing Spider-man and Spider-man was easily some of the best times ever in Spidey's history.

Oh and McFarlane drew the best Spidey ever IMO, with Larsen a close 2nd during his 1st run on ASM.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

edgy dark spider-man always gets a bad reaction. hence the eye-tearing in the other was ripped apart. if aunt may/mj is killed cos of civil war the books better get darker for a while


oh and i've thought of some back-issues you could get. revelations -- the one set after the clone saga, that ties up the loose ends, brings back GG and kills ben reilly, seward trainer and gaunt.

 

[Davinder1985]

edgy dark spider-man always gets a bad reaction. hence the eye-tearing in the other was ripped apart. if aunt may/mj is killed cos of civil war the books better get darker for a while


oh and i've thought of some back-issues you could get. revelations -- the one set after the clone saga, that ties up the loose ends, brings back GG and kills ben reilly, seward trainer and gaunt.

Yes i have that, really enjoyed it. Quite shocking when you learn the truth about Reilly.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

oh yeah you said you collect astonishing.i forgot.the latest issue was cool. u know what happens to the symbiote right?

 

[Vile]

Torment or McFarlane's two-parter Hobgoblin arc (the one that featured Ghost Rider). THAT was friggin' creepy, and the highlight of Macendale's career.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

^demogoblin. it was called masques. i thought the art rules, the concept was good, but the actual writing sucked. but that's just me.

 

[Vile]

No, not Demogoblin.

Demogoblin only came into being when the Demon SPLIT from Macendale.

During Masques, Macendale was going insane NOT accepting the fact that his body was being twisted. - but it was not two entities yet, Macendale was in the drivers seat, just in extreme denial.

 

[Davinder1985]

Torment or McFarlane's two-parter Hobgoblin arc (the one that featured Ghost Rider). THAT was friggin' creepy, and the highlight of Macendale's career.

Cool, i'm gona look into that!

 

[MyPokerShirt]

No, not Demogoblin.

Demogoblin only came into being when the Demon SPLIT from Macendale.

During Masques, Macendale was going insane NOT accepting the fact that his body was being twisted. - but it was not two entities yet, Macendale was in the drivers seat, just in extreme denial.

u told me. u still didnt know it was "masques" though...

 

[Lantern Venom]

If it's violent & graphic Spidey comics, then 'Carnage: It's a Wonderful Life' & 'Carnage: Mindbomb' will be right up your street. I'm sure anyone who's read either of these will back me up.

Yes, I will back you up! Mindbomb was downright disturbing. It's a must for any Spidey or Carnage fan. Seeing things from Kasady's perspective, in vivid detail, makes the reader understand why even other villains are grossed out by Carnage.

 

[DACrowe]

Well if you just want violence for violence sake check out the AWFUL Todd McFarlen's Torment (Really butchered the Lizard character for a boring story).

Now if you want a good violent dark tale I'd say the first venom appearence for psychological aspects (as well as when Norman steals Peter's baby) but for bloodshed check out Kraven's Last Hunt. The first four issues were really good in Marvel Knights' Spider-Man too and did some dark things (like Black Cat seeming to rip out a Vulture eye and sell him off and just how ****ed up Peter got in the first two issues).

Also Maximum Carnage is really bloody....but REALLY ****ty however.

 

[DACrowe]

P.S. I cannot stress enough how much I hated McFarlen's run on Spider-Man. His run on ASM with Minchille(sp?) was pretty damn good and funny and well made (even if there were really only 4 stand out stories over 30 issues).

His own writing thos ewas drivel. He couldn't figure out what to do with MJ, he just had her dance and kill suspense, his villains were mindless bloody cliches that just killed people for violence sake, the blood was unnecessary and Spider-Man was rather boring written kinda' like an empty drone just there to fight blood splattering villains. His HObgoblin story was all right but relied too much on shock value and having Ghost Rider come in and what not. Seeing him have to drown the mother in the Alien-slime rip off was just overdoing it to me though.

But I cannot stress how bad Torment is. And I was glad to see him gone as we asaw with Spawn he took another decent concept and qauickly ran it into the ground. Visually the man is a major talent. But he is a very, very, very poor writer in my opinion.

 

[Mauser9910]

I haven't seen it mentionned, so The Sin Eater storyline.

 

[Donald Thomas]

I haven't seen it mentionned, so The Sin Eater storyline.

Aloha,
JEAN DewOLFFE GETS BLOWN AWAY WITH A SHOT GUN. i'D SAY THAT QUALIFIED FOR VIOLENT(SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS).
Spidey rules

 

[November Rain]

not many real aspects of violence in spidey's life. the best ones have already been mentioned.

him killing wolverine's girlfriend is probably the most shocking read for me.

 

[Davinder1985]

not many real aspects of violence in spidey's life. the best ones have already been mentioned.

him killing wolverine's girlfriend is probably the most shocking read for me.

He kills wolverine's girlfriend??? What comic is that from?

 

[November Rain]

well technically ex at the time.....

it was from the spider-man vs wolverine mini

 

[Davinder1985]

well technically ex at the time.....

it was from the spider-man vs wolverine mini

The Marvel Legends: Spider-man, Wolverine is quite good, i really like the art work.

 

[Davinder1985]

Well if you just want violence for violence sake check out the AWFUL Todd McFarlen's Torment (Really butchered the Lizard character for a boring story).

Now if you want a good violent dark tale I'd say the first venom appearence for psychological aspects (as well as when Norman steals Peter's baby) but for bloodshed check out Kraven's Last Hunt. The first four issues were really good in Marvel Knights' Spider-Man too and did some dark things (like Black Cat seeming to rip out a Vulture eye and sell him off and just how ****ed up Peter got in the first two issues).

Also Maximum Carnage is really bloody....but REALLY ****ty however.

Actually that is what i really prefer; dark violent tales with psychological aspects. I completely agree with everyone else when it is said that violence does not replace a good story line.

I'm definately going to get Marvel Knights and Kraven's Last Hunt.

Ive read the story when Norman takes pete's baby in astonishing spiderman. Thats really gripping!

Are you refering to amazing spiderman 300 when you mentioned venom's first outing??

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

 

[Davinder1985]

Jesus! What the hell does Wolverine do next? I know, i should buy the comic, but i really wana know. I would have thought he would freak out!

 

[DACrowe]

Oh I aqgree if well done going to dark place occassionally is great fun and can offer some interesting insights into characters.

But McFarlen's stories were not that, nor was Maximum Carnage they were sensless violence for sensless violence sake. Kinda' the Marvel comic equivalent of snuff filmmaking (well MacFarlen's first two stories on Spider-Man anyway were).

Now if you want a dark Spider-Man story read the two-arter (though more specifically the much better second part by Paul Jenkins) Green Goblin storyline called Darkness Calling Darkness and Trick of Light. Both are #25 in Vol. 2 of Amazing Spider-Man and continued with Trick of Light in Peter Parker Spider-Man.

The latter takes Pete to a real dark place where the whole issue he is basically tortured into submission by the Green Goblin who has him hopped up on drugs and the whole issue feels like a drug trip (as does the end of Mackie's decent prelude in Amazing where he drugs Peter to become the Green Goblin and attack his friends) to the point where he is ready by the end to take the Goblin formula and become Norman's "son." And when they finally ocme to blows the art does not shy away from the blood.

But no one dies, it is more psychological which I prefer.

 

[DACrowe]

And I liked the Revelations storyline with the loss of baby May and Ben Reilly for what it's worth (whether bringing GG back was a good decision or not though).

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

Jesus! What the hell does Wolverine do next? I know, i should buy the comic, but i really wana know. I would have thought he would freak out!

Wolverine was actually trying to kill the woman, almost every single asassain in the world was after her, and she wanted to die quick. However Pete intervened trying to save her from what he thought, was just Wolverine going bat****. She eventually tricks him into doing the job for her by making it seem like she was Logan sneaking up on him