Ms Marvel, damn you Green Lantern?

[chiefchirpa]

Can it still work, when its theme nearly similar to Green Lantern as an air force pilot got promoted by an alien power? Also to Wonder Woman because of you know what.

If it can work, who should be Carol Danvers? I want a good, moviegoer friendly actress and let the script-direction takes the movie to a high level.

Could be the female Iron Man, well she's a female Tony Stark being formerly drunkard and all t:

 

[Jake Cassidy]

It could still work. Just because 1 movie doesn't, it doesn't mean that a similar movie will as well.

Charlize Theron

 

[cherokeesam]

How about Kristin Bell, Malin Akerman, or Tricia Helfer?

Also, you'd have to introduce Mar-Vell first. Would he get his own solo joint, followed by Ms. Marvel, or would you introduce them both together in one movie?

 

[Ipodman]

It could still work. Just because 1 movie doesn't, it doesn't mean that a similar movie will as well.

Charlize Theron

100% spot on t:

 

[psylockolussus]

It could work because its not DC.

 

[Red Mask]

Does Marvel have any serious plans to bring her to the screen? I know she'll be featured in the next season of the Mighty Avengers. t:

I also read that she'll be featured in a 3D animated Avengers cartoon, but there's no update on that.

I guess it could work in the future, depending on how they introduce her. I was so disappointed that Joss Whedon won't include her in the Avengers movie.

Her background is complicated by the fact her origin is tied to a previously established Marvel superhero. Unlike Spider-Woman her powers did come from her male counter-part, Captain Marvel. But her constant rise from many career and superhero setbacks have made her an interesting character. I suppose in a way she's the perfect heroine who's always got back up from the worst physical and emotional hits.

1. After achieving a career as a top airforce pilot (ranked major) she ends up becoming a spy.
2. After her career as a spy she ended up a security chief at NASA, instead of being a potential astronaut.
3. Became a superheroine by accident but still rose to the challenge. Worked as an editor.
4. Lost her memories and powers to Rogue but later got cosmic powers as Binary.
5. Helped fight a galactic tyrant with the Starjammers and returned to the Avengers.
6. Lost her Binary powers and became an alcaholic. Ended up working for Homeland Security.
7. Assumed her Ms. Marvel name again and returned to the Avengers. Supposedly regained her lost memories and feelings.

Her major enemies aren't that memorable but her struggle to be the best always impressed me. I just hope a new writer can prove she can be more rounded and independent. Her claim to fame lies mostly in being an Avenger, an old friend of Wolverine, and Captain Marvel.

 

[kedrell]

100% spot on t:

Eh, it's a good idea but I was more hoping she'd be Amora the Enchantress in Thor 2.

 

[cherokeesam]

Eh, it's a good idea but I was more hoping she'd be Amora the Enchantress in Thor 2.

I dunno....Charlize is more (typecasting, I know) an ass-kicker like Carol than a seductress like Amora. I'm seeing Amanda Seyfried for Enchantress....

 

[Chewy]

I want a big epic Mar-Vell movie that ends with his death and Ms Marvel's "birth"

 

[Tacit Ronin]

It's because of execution why GL failed, not the concept.

 

[Raiden]

I want a big epic Mar-Vell movie that ends with his death and Ms Marvel's "birth"

Maybe focus the movie on Mar-Vell's death in the first 1/3 of the movie, but it should focus on Ms. Marvel as the main character of the movie not Mar-Vell. It could work, but the script has to be great because she's not a household name nor have a great origin story to tell imo. Marvel might have to take a leap of faith to make this movie, otherwise they can put her in the Avengers 2.

 

[Red Mask]

Maybe focus the movie on Mar-Vell's death in the first 1/3 of the movie, but it should focus on Ms. Marvel as the main character of the movie not Mar-Vell. It could work, but the script has to be great because she's not a household name nor have a great origin story to tell imo. Marvel might have to take a leap of faith to make this movie, otherwise they can put her in the Avengers 2.

But is that properly putting Carol in the spotlight by stating she's an offshot from another superhero? Is that giving her enough credit as a solo superhero? They'd have to choose the conflict very carefully without making it another Green Lantern film.

 

[superotherside]

I'd like Ms Marvel for The Avengers 2!

 

[psylockolussus]

I'm seeing Amanda Seyfried for Enchantress....

Yeah I would like to see that

 

[Dark Raven]

I think Yvonne Strahovski would be better as Ms Marvel than Charlize Theron.

Also, I don't think the similarity between Ms Marvel and Green Lantern is so evident, otherwise that would also exclude the possibility of a Nova movie. The only main similarity is the air force pilot, and even they can even get round that. The alien origin is not a problem since lots of other characters have that.

In the original Ms Marvel comics, Carol Danvers kept having these blackouts and memory lapses, and didn't even know she was Ms Marvel. I can't remember if she even remembered her career as an air force pilot - she might've worked as something else. That would certainly put a different and interesting spin on her as a super hero - someone who doesn't even know that they are one, at least until later.

The fact that she does have these memory lapses and doesn't know she is Ms Marvel could actually be a great way to introduce her before introducing Captain Marvel. There would be a mystery element where she has to find out the origin of her powers and discover this whole Kree Empire and this Kree Captain named Mar-Vell. His own story can then later be a separate movie. It's a way to get straight into the action by introducing it from the viewer's point of view, represented by Carol, who initially only thinks she's a regular human being, and a way to put a new spin on an origin story.

 

[Raiden]

I think Yvonne Strahovski would be better as Ms Marvel than Charlize Theron.

Also, I don't think the similarity between Ms Marvel and Green Lantern is so evident, otherwise that would also exclude the possibility of a Nova movie. The only main similarity is the air force pilot, and even they can even get round that. The alien origin is not a problem since lots of other characters have that.

In the original Ms Marvel comics, Carol Danvers kept having these blackouts and memory lapses, and didn't even know she was Ms Marvel. I can't remember if she even remembered her career as an air force pilot - she might've worked as something else. That would certainly put a different and interesting spin on her as a super hero - someone who doesn't even know that they are one, at least until later.

The fact that she does have these memory lapses and doesn't know she is Ms Marvel could actually be a great way to introduce her before introducing Captain Marvel. There would be a mystery element where she has to find out the origin of her powers and discover this whole Kree Empire and this Kree Captain named Mar-Vell. His own story can then later be a separate movie. It's a way to get straight into the action by introducing it from the viewer's point of view, represented by Carol, who initially only thinks she's a regular human being, and a way to put a new spin on an origin story.

If the movie is called Ms. Marvel, I don't think it would be a smart decision to postpone her own story until the sequel. And you do not make a movie with the expectation to have a follow-up sequel later...like ask Superman Returns.

 

[Dark Raven]

If the movie is called Ms. Marvel, I don't think it would be a smart decision to postpone her own story until the sequel. And you do not make a movie with the expectation to have a follow-up sequel later...like ask Superman Returns.

I didn't say to postpone her story until the sequel. Where did I ever say that? I said that she doesn't know she is Ms Marvel at the start of the movie (just like in the very first comic) but keeps experiencing blackouts. During these blackouts, she turns into Ms Marvel and goes out fighting crime. Then, as Carol Danvers, she tries to piece together her missing hours and this later leads her to discover that she is in fact the new superheroine that is all over the news. Then, as she tries to find out how she acquired these powers, this leads her to the whole Kree connection and Captain Mar-vell (who can be a whole story of his own in his own movie).

Isn't this, after all, basically what happened in the first few issues of the comics? It still is her story, doesn't take away from any of the action (because she is already Ms Marvel at the start of the movie) and creates a mystery to be solved, which will pull in the viewer. That would be engaging enough to not even need such a big arch villain, because it is her story and process of discovery that drives the narrative.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Katee Sackhoff!

 

[Silvermoth]

I don't think a Ms Marvel film was ever likely to be honest. Could be interesting though if they made her more Dana Scully than Pamela Anderson.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't think a Ms Marvel film was ever likely to be honest. Could be interesting though if they made her more Dana Scully than Pamela Anderson.

Why does she have to be either? Those aren't the only two options for women.

If she's like Yvonne Strahovski's character in Chuck (and played by her), that would be fine.

 

[psylockolussus]

Blake Lively for Ms. Marvel haha!

 

[DrCosmic]

If they can't get Wonder Woman together, I doubt they can get Ms. Marvel. It has all the same problems, and less broad appeal. The Green Lantern similarities are a minor issue, though I'm sure they'd come up.

Why does she have to be either? Those aren't the only two options for women.

If she's like Yvonne Strahovski's character in Chuck (and played by her), that would be fine.

Those are the two extremes, or at least, I believe that was the thought process. Chuck's girl seems to have quite a mind, and is more than just a sex object, but she leans heavy towards the sexy action girl side imho.

 

[cherokeesam]

If they can't get Wonder Woman together, I doubt they can get Ms. Marvel.

The chief difference being that Wonder Woman belongs to Warners, who can't figure out how to do any superhero who doesn't have "Bat" as a prefix; while Ms. Marvel belongs to Marvel Studios (presumably), who are doing a great job of showing how to create a cinematic superhero universe.

 

[DrCosmic]

The chief difference being that Wonder Woman belongs to Warners, who can't figure out how to do any superhero who doesn't have "Bat" as a prefix; while Ms. Marvel belongs to Marvel Studios (presumably), who are doing a great job of showing how to create a cinematic superhero universe.

With Male stars. Marvel's awesome, no doubt, but they haven't got the female action star problem cracked.

 

[Silvermoth]

Why does she have to be either? Those aren't the only two options for women.

If she's like Yvonne Strahovski's character in Chuck (and played by her), that would be fine.

You seem to misinterpret the sentence based on Gillian Anderson's looks. I consider Gillian to be a beautiful, amazing actress. It's not a matter of only an ugly person can play the role. Looks don't even factor into it, which is my point.

My point is, it can't just be "Supermodels in space". Carol will need motives, a great villian, an idealogy and a drive that makes the audience want to go on a journey with her.