MTV developing Scream series

[Matt]

Like what is her stake in it? Was she banging Brandon James or something?

Piper's mom/the TV show's Debbie Salt is the only thing I would be able to make of it. But that would make Kieran Piper's cousin, Eli her brother (which would make any future romantic potential between Eli and Emma, which is clearly being set up for, uber-creepy considering they'd share a sibling). It would just make everything feel so soap opera.

 

[Jostru]

Piper's mom/the TV show's Debbie Salt is the only thing I would be able to make of it. But that would make Kieran Piper's cousin, Eli her brother (which would make any future romantic potential between Eli and Emma, which is clearly being set up for, uber-creepy considering they'd share a sibling). It would just make everything feel so soap opera.

She can't be Piper's mom. We know who Piper's mom is. That was the entire clue of the first season.

 

[Matt]

She can't be Piper's mom. We know who Piper's mom is. That was the entire clue of the first season.

Total brain fart

Adoptive mother, maybe? She was an orphan, after all.

I gotta say, come to think of it, the writers have done a terrible job handling that detail. We have seen no regret or emotion of any type conveyed by Emma's mother over her disowned daughter going on a killing spree (that targeted her other daughter) out of desire for revenge on her mother. Moreover, we have seen no emotion shown from Emma over having a long lost sibling who wanted to kill her. We've seen a lot of survivor guilt and PTSD, but nothing related to the familial nature of the killing spree. It is a pretty big detail to gloss over.

 

[Urich Leeds]

No way it is Emma at this point. If Emma were the killer, why would she frame herself?

I am getting more on Team Brooke. Stavo's file undoubtedly hacked Noah's computer...but I think there is an off chance that Brooke is the one who planted the virus so it would hack the computer.

I dunno if the writers will get that clever with it or go the obvious route (Kieran and Stavo).

But it is worth noting, Brooke is the only character who was able to roam the school freely throughout the lockdown.

Emma seems pretty whacked in the head. If it was her, the seeds are already there, including being totally unaware of shes doing (she nearly stabbed her mom).

Plus, there's the fact that she left Lakewood, yet we pretty much have no clue what happened to her, or what she did and learned, in that time.

 

[Avenging Angel]

Total cop out if it's Emma. Lazy writing.

 

[Matt]

Total cop out if it's Emma. Lazy writing.

Agreed. Although I really think this theory is more a case of projecting one's desire than a credible theory. If Emma were the killer, the writers would not be so on the nose with dream sequences and all of that. It would be a twist. They wouldn't be directing the audience to doubt Emma's sanity if the twist were that Emma is the killer. Just as they have planted subtle probabilities with Keiran rather than directing the audience to doubt him, they would do the same for Emma. There would be little clues but nothing so overt.

 

[NosfeRomas]

I have a theory. There are two culprits that don the Ghostface mask but only one of them kills while the other is the taunter. He calls and texts and pranks while his accomplish does all the killing. My money for the taunter is on Eli and the killer it's possibly Kieran.

Also, Seth Branson's killer could have been Kristin Lang.

 

[Matt]

That is an all around awful theory and way too convoluted (plus almost all of it contradicts what we know).

 

[Jostru]

I have a theory. There are two culprits that don the Ghostface mask but only one of them kills while the other is the taunter. He calls and texts and pranks while his accomplish does all the killing. My money for the taunter is on Eli and the killer it's possibly Kieran.

Also, Seth Branson's killer could have been Kristin Lang.

No, it couldn't. The killer confronted (and nearly killed) Ms Lang at the school, showing her Branson's severed hand and stabbed him moments later.

 

[Avenging Angel]

Agreed. Although I really think this theory is more a case of projecting one's desire than a credible theory. If Emma were the killer, the writers would not be so on the nose with dream sequences and all of that. It would be a twist. They wouldn't be directing the audience to doubt Emma's sanity if the twist were that Emma is the killer. Just as they have planted subtle probabilities with Keiran rather than directing the audience to doubt him, they would do the same for Emma. There would be little clues but nothing so overt.

Yeah I didn't peg the writers to be so clear cut, but it's meant to throw people off for sure from what's the obvious prospect.

 

[terry78]

Uh oh.......was that Brandon James calling at the end?

 

[Matt]

Uh oh.......was that Brandon James calling at the end?

Definitely the original Brandon James killer. Whether it was actually Brandon or not, the show has implied not.

Good ending, albeit predictable. The singular killer was a bit disappointing but I liked where the ended with him, rather than just killing him off.

Gotta say [blackout]Eli's[/blackout] death was brutal in the sense that it was so abrupt and even the attempt to make him heroic resulted in him being gunned down. That said, it was hard to care for him. In the back six episodes they tried so hard to make him a suspect that there was ultimately no emotional connection with the viewer.

 

[Matt]

So there has to be an accomplice, right?

The killer was with Brooke when the cops arrived and went to the hospital with her and remained at the hospital long after Emma was at the orphanagel. So how did the killer get Audrey to the orphanage and chained up?

 

[Urich Leeds]

I'm so disappointed it was

Spoiler

Kieran. It was just too obvious a choice. I had hoped he'd never be revealed as a killer on this show.

 

[smallville fan]

I'm so disappointed it was

Spoiler

Kieran. It was just too obvious a choice. I had hoped he'd never be revealed as a killer on this show.

Yeah it really was. We're getting a Season 3 right?

 

[Urich Leeds]

Yeah it really was. We're getting a Season 3 right?

It hasn't been officially renewed yet, but the finale definitely points to a Season 3 happening. So there's hope.

 

[Dark_Lord]

There's going to be a 2 episode TV special in October. It could be their way of doing a series finale. ***********/MTVScream posted a clip from it.

 

[Sawyer]

I was expecting a sort of [blackout]"I'm keeping my mouth shut, you owe me" from Kieran to Stavo[/blackout], because I'm just not buying that that kid has clean hands, plus, there has to be an accomplice.

 

[Jostru]

Well, I'm actually really disappointed it was [BLACKOUT]Kieran[/BLACKOUT]. It's been obvious for weeks. Not to gloat, but I totally called the motive 2 weeks ago

Top 3 suspects:
1. [BLACKOUT]Kieran. Sure, by now he's the obvious pick, seeing how he hasn't had a showdown with the killer yet and doesn't have any good alibi's, but the show doesn't state any straight out suspicious things he's done, like it does with Eli or Stave, which is what makes me suspect him more than the both of them. Perhaps he was Piper's boyfriend? Maybe that's why he went after Mrs. Lang? As a close friend of Piper, she would definitely figure it out. Though it's quite gruesome to think he would have dug up his girlfriend's body just to make a point.[/BLACKOUT]

Loved the ending though. The idea of the killings getting the attention of the original Lakewood killer and giving him back his thirst for blood is great. Earlier this season, I suspected the original killer to be involved, but him being the ultimate end game in a possible final third season? I just wet myself, thank you very much.

Here's hoping they actually renew it for a third season. The original Lakewood killer as the climax to the story. Now that would end this show with a bang.

 

[terry78]

I would be fine with them just having him be the antagonist with no whodunit stuff going on, as it would be kind of a Michael Myers/Jason deal. But if they want a twist where it's someone else in on it, whatever.

 

[Jostru]

I would be fine with them just having him be the antagonist with no whodunit stuff going on, as it would be kind of a Michael Myers/Jason deal. But if they want a twist where it's someone else in on it, whatever.

No way [BLACKOUT]Brandon James[/BLACKOUT] was the original killer, though. It'll be either [BLACKOUT]someone new, Emma's dad or the sheriff[/BLACKOUT].

 

[Sithborg]

That was a good finale. A bit surprised by the killer's identity, but I do like how it played out.

 

[terry78]

I need to go back and watch past episodes to see if there are some gaps in logic, like the killer being somewhere and him being nowhere near where he needed to be to pull off a kill.

 

[Jostru]

I need to go back and watch past episodes to see if there are some gaps in logic, like the killer being somewhere and him being nowhere near where he needed to be to pull off a kill.

Yeah, I plan on rewatching both seasons. Knowing who the killer is, gives you a completely different view on the events. I do wonder how much he was involved with the killings of season 1, though, so I already did a quick viewing of some key events from season 1.

Some things I think he did:
- Check out Nina's house for entry points and such. Hence why he went home with her after they met at the bar the day before she got killed.
- Kill Rachel. Audrey said Piper was with her. So yeah.
- Attack Will (and Piper). Pretty obvious.
- Tie up (and probably kill) his dad. Piper was at the dance with Emma when the feed came on and wasn't gone long enough to be the killer to enter the screen. Kieran, however, left quite a bit beforehand.
- Free Branson from the police station, since he knew his way around.
- Capture Branson at Brooke's house and tie him up. The lights weren't off long enough for it to be a one-man job. Piper couldn't have knocked him out, dragged him out of sight, tied him up and then reappear before Brooke when the lights came back on.

Hope we got some clarity on his involvement!

 

[Broseph44]

I'm actually very satisfied with who it was and how it played out. Really hope we get a season 3 after that little tidbit at the end there.