My name in lights.

[Silverstein]

People are taught to strive towards being stars.We're taught to embrace eveery oppurtunity to seek out money. We are raised to be greedy.

Little children desire "my name in lights". The oldest brother of sibblings even since ancient times, is to lead the father's legacy and strive for riches. Conquerers and rulers often try to get more land even when they have it all.

More than any other item on the planet people know *insert picture of sack of gold*. Money is a pagan god. And Cash is the strongest and largest world religion.

But the world wasn't poor and needy before, there was land, there was sea and there was air. PEOPLE corrupted it and made rivers of blood. PEOPLE made it so that little ebony princesses and princes had to live in dirt hovels and have flies on their faces, sickness in the air. Do you know how many children in China don't even have a chance at life?

Why two korea?

I know a lot of Starbucks Bad Asses* are going to comment like "The world is hard. Live hard back." or "Old news!!" or something lame just to feel like they've gotten a zing, but the way we live is wrong. I've tried to live away from it but the older that I get the more that I see that I DO need money. We all do. Life is a race and everyone will just run by you if you trip.

But I need solutions to live. I NEED an answer to my questions. So how do we make the world a better place. Communist Socialized Independance.

What's that?

It's a method I thought up in highschool. And I've worked it out pretty well.

-Resources in the country are used to better the country so recycling and not wasting would be core ideals
-Everyone makes the same amount of money. Doctor and Trashman do their part for society. But because the doctor is doing "more" for society, he is illegible for more bonuses.
-Everyone is evaluated monthly on their job progress and then there is a drawing to win commodities such as a new car.
-Taxes are already taken, so it seems like you don't even pay taxes.
-Everyone in the country receives a check for 300 dollars at the end of the year if they did well at work after evaluation.
-Government controls all.
-Two children maximum per family.
-Celeberties, athletes and musicians are viewed as such and don't make absurd amounts of money for no reason. That extra cash goes to fixing streets and homes and police force so that crime is low.

All gain. But those are just the major points. You can't mend a scar, you can't fix a shattered heart. But you can try.

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Starbucks Bad Ass: You ever go to Starbucks? See all the New age beatniks on [windows] laptops and macbooks, being know it alls and condemning everyone and everything? The trick though, is that you don't actually have to ever have gone to Starbucks. Just that whole "you're an idiot" mentality. Because the defining thing is that it's just internet brovado.
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[Captain_BluTac]

 

[Shoemeister]

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

I think the reason why American children are raised to think they are the best..because MANY will fail and just be a nameless no one. Who would want that? A little lie never hurt..

 

[Cunning Stunts]

I think the reason why American children are raised to think they are the best..because MANY will fail and just be a nameless no one. Who would want that? A little lie never hurt..

And they, in turn, wind up here.

 

[bullets]

-Celebrities, athletes and musicians are viewed as such and don't make absurd amounts of money for no reason. That extra cash goes to fixing streets and homes and police force so that crime is low.

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Well part of the reason they make so much is because of the money they bring in . I know why you feel they make absurd amounts of money. part of it is what we pay . There should be a limitation on ticket prices which have skyrocketed in the last few years.

 

[sithgoblin]

People are taught to strive towards being stars.We're taught to embrace eveery oppurtunity to seek out money. We are raised to be greedy.

Little children desire "my name in lights". The oldest brother of sibblings even since ancient times, is to lead the father's legacy and strive for riches. Conquerers and rulers often try to get more land even when they have it all.

More than any other item on the planet people know *insert picture of sack of gold*. Money is a pagan god. And Cash is the strongest and largest world religion.

But the world wasn't poor and needy before, there was land, there was sea and there was air. PEOPLE corrupted it and made rivers of blood. PEOPLE made it so that little ebony princesses and princes had to live in dirt hovels and have flies on their faces, sickness in the air. Do you know how many children in China don't even have a chance at life?

Why two korea?

I know a lot of Starbucks Bad Asses* are going to comment like "The world is hard. Live hard back." or "Old news!!" or something lame just to feel like they've gotten a zing, but the way we live is wrong. I've tried to live away from it but the older that I get the more that I see that I DO need money. We all do. Life is a race and everyone will just run by you if you trip.

But I need solutions to live. I NEED an answer to my questions. So how do we make the world a better place. Communist Socialized Independance.

What's that?

It's a method I thought up in highschool. And I've worked it out pretty well.

-Resources in the country are used to better the country so recycling and not wasting would be core ideals
-Everyone makes the same amount of money. Doctor and Trashman do their part for society. But because the doctor is doing "more" for society, he is illegible for more bonuses.
-Everyone is evaluated monthly on their job progress and then there is a drawing to win commodities such as a new car.
-Taxes are already taken, so it seems like you don't even pay taxes.
-Everyone in the country receives a check for 300 dollars at the end of the year if they did well at work after evaluation.
-Government controls all.
-Two children maximum per family.
-Celeberties, athletes and musicians are viewed as such and don't make absurd amounts of money for no reason. That extra cash goes to fixing streets and homes and police force so that crime is low.

All gain. But those are just the major points. You can't mend a scar, you can't fix a shattered heart. But you can try.

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Starbucks Bad Ass: You ever go to Starbucks? See all the New age beatniks on [windows] laptops and macbooks, being know it alls and condemning everyone and everything? The trick though, is that you don't actually have to ever have gone to Starbucks. Just that whole "you're an idiot" mentality. Because the defining thing is that it's just internet brovado.
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lol! I love it how you pre-emptively label anyone who doesn't agree with you a moron. ZING!

Anyway, I agree that the capitalistic world we live in is a bit sick. I hate how there are ads EVERYWHERE these days. You literally can't go out in public without something being marketed in your face. Not to mention telemarketing that invades your home! It's horrible.

But communism won't work either. People have a natural urge to dominate one another, just as much as they have a natural urge for the common good. But the prospect of reward is what excells people forward; we are selfish, we don't work for nothing. And your system of giving doctors and trashmen the same wage, but doctors more 'bonuses' in effect is just giving the doctor a higher wage. So why the bulls**t?

Also, having a government control everything would lead to corruption faster than you can say 'hat'. You need independent checks and balances, and governments need to serve the people, not impose upon them. And an extra check for 300 dollars? How old are you?

 

[Silverstein]

lol! I love it how you pre-emptively label anyone who doesn't agree with you a moron. ZING!

Anyway, I agree that the capitalistic world we live in is a bit sick. I hate how there are ads EVERYWHERE these days. You literally can't go out in public without something being marketed in your face. Not to mention telemarketing that invades your home! It's horrible.

But communism won't work either. People have a natural urge to dominate one another, just as much as they have a natural urge for the common good. But the prospect of reward is what excells people forward; we are selfish, we don't work for nothing. And your system of giving doctors and trashmen the same wage, but doctors more 'bonuses' in effect is just giving the doctor a higher wage. So why the bulls**t?

Also, having a government control everything would lead to corruption faster than you can say 'hat'. You need independent checks and balances, and governments need to serve the people, not impose upon them. And an extra check for 300 dollars? How old are you?

lol I love it how you started off misinterpreting me.

I didn't say anyone that disagrees, I spoke about anyone trying to be negative. I even took the time to explain and yet you still failed.

Epic fail.

 

[sithgoblin]

lol I love it how you started off misinterpreting me.

I didn't say anyone that disagrees, I spoke about anyone trying to be negative. I even took the time to explain and yet you still failed.

Epic fail.

Ha ha. How about explaining the flaws in your system instead of attacking my character?

 

[Silverstein]

My thoughts exactly.

What thoughts? ....Are you saying you picture me as a neon sign? Are you remembering general tso's? Did my post sum up to house special lo mein?

 

[Silverstein]

Ha ha. How about explaining the flaws in your system instead of attacking my character?

tee hee, I didn't speak of your character, I spoke of your lack of understanding and attempt at sarcasim. Then I informed you of how that crashed and sizzled a little..If that's your character, then there's not much there.

Anyway I don't really see a reason to explain anything to a hypocrite. "Attacking my character" but you're implying I'm immature with "how old are you"? Did you even read your own post?

Besides there aren't any flaws. Not any that YOU brought up, maybe as I'm typing this someone who knows what they're talking about like Wilheim or someone responded and pointed out my flaws.

All you did was state your opinion and explain how in your opinion it doesn't work. No examples or actual facts, and not even any questions.

I explained that this was a BASIC summary of ideas that I had fleshed out since HS. You didn't even bother with a "what did you mean by..." or "did you really mean.."

No wonder you found offense in my speaking of Starbucks Bad Asses in advance. Seems like you might be one.

 

[Silverstein]

But communism won't work either. People have a natural urge to dominate one another, just as much as they have a natural urge for the common good. But the prospect of reward is what excells people forward; we are selfish, we don't work for nothing. And your system of giving doctors and trashmen the same wage, but doctors more 'bonuses' in effect is just giving the doctor a higher wage. So why the bulls**t?

Also, having a government control everything would lead to corruption faster than you can say 'hat'. You need independent checks and balances, and governments need to serve the people, not impose upon them. And an extra check for 300 dollars? How old are you?

Just to get it out of the way, though:

"people have a natural urge to dominate one another"....Not true. In fact, science, sociology and psychology point to humans seeking out leaders and guidance. Atheists might phrase it as: this is why we "created" gods and religion to guide us. We want to live first and foremost. Greed is something that comes later, once we are comfortable. So it's not the same.

No giving the doctor a bonus is to say you are elligible to win a car or this or that more often than the Trashman. You aren't giving him 10 million dollars or anything. It's literally just a bonus. Motivating people to try harder.


The last paragraph isn't even worth discussing. Just an "attack of character" mixed with a lot of opinions and fluff. You didn't refute anything, please don't act as if you did.

 

[sithgoblin]

tee hee, I didn't speak of your character, I spoke of your lack of understanding and attempt at sarcasim. Then I informed you of how that crashed and sizzled a little..If that's your character, then there's not much there.

Anyway I don't really see a reason to explain anything to a hypocrite. "Attacking my character" but you're implying I'm immature with "how old are you"? Did you even read your own post?

Besides there aren't any flaws. Not any that YOU brought up, maybe as I'm typing this someone who knows what they're talking about like Wilheim or someone responded and pointed out my flaws.

All you did was state your opinion and explain how in your opinion it doesn't work. No examples or actual facts, and not even any questions.

I explained that this was a BASIC summary of ideas that I had fleshed out since HS. You didn't even bother with a "what did you mean by..." or "did you really mean.."

No wonder you found offense in my speaking of Starbucks Bad Asses in advance. Seems like you might be one.

Okay, insults aside, it seems like you are incapable of reading, or at least understanding the meaning of words and sentences. Because if you could, you would see that I actually asked several questions:

You say that doctors and garbage men earn the same wage, but doctors get more bonuses because they perform more complex tasks. Is this not in effect paying the doctors a higher wage? So why have a fake system that pretends to be equal, when it hasn't changed anything?

I also raised the issue of corruption. What checks and balances would you have in place to ensure the government in power remains honest?

And then there was my comment on human nature - people naturally being competitive. Most people don't want to do things unless they will gain from it, and it is a lot easier for people to gain things in a free market than in a 1984-style totalitarianism communist regime.

So, do you want to explain those issues? Or do you want to keep being an annoying little smart ass?

 

[Silverstein]

Okay, insults aside, it seems like you are incapable of reading, or at least understanding the meaning of words and sentences. Because if you could, you would see that I actually asked several questions:

You say that doctors and garbage men earn the same wage, but doctors get more bonuses because they perform more complex tasks. Is this not in effect paying the doctors a higher wage? So why have a fake system that pretends to be equal, when it hasn't changed anything?

I also raised the issue of corruption. What checks and balances would you have in place to ensure the government in power remains honest?

And then there was my comment on human nature - people naturally being competitive. Most people don't want to do things unless they will gain from it, and it is a lot easier for people to gain things in a free market than in a 1984-style totalitarianism communist regime.

So, do you want to explain those issues? Or do you want to keep being an annoying little smart ass?

I'll stop being "an annoying little smart ass" when you stop being a hypocrite. "Insults aside" and then tell me how I'm I-ill-illeter8...pfft...I can't spell big words like that ..oh and again let's not forget the smart ass comment. I think you're the one who can't read...Just like last time it's like you didn't even read your own post.

Dude, I have no problems with you and I'd gladly just talk and discuss your ideas and my ideas with no hostility or sarcasim. YOU keep bringing it in here. I'm not just going to take bs comments and be the "nice guy" so that you can sleep at night. If you want to debate, grow up let your balls drop and talk to me like the man that you claim you are. If you want to continue being a contradicting hypocrite "smart ass", then when it comes to responding to your posts, I'll have to be the little annoying one.

The fact that I haven't just straight out ignored you shows that I don't think you're a complete dummy. In fact, regardless of how you may view me, I don't think you're an idiot at all. You just seem like maybe you're trying for that "zing" I was talking about.

I mean you're asking about my response, but I already responded to your post. Where you take it from there is up to you.

 

[sithgoblin]

I'll stop being "an annoying little smart ass" when you stop being a hypocrite. "Insults aside" and then tell me how I'm I-ill-illeter8...pfft...I can't spell big words like that ..oh and again let's not forget the smart ass comment. I think you're the one who can't read...Just like last time it's like you didn't even read your own post.

Dude, I have no problems with you and I'd gladly just talk and discuss your ideas and my ideas with no hostility or sarcasim. YOU keep bringing it in here. I'm not just going to take bs comments and be the "nice guy" so that you can sleep at night. If you want to debate, grow up let your balls drop and talk to me like the man that you claim you are. If you want to continue being a contradicting hypocrite "smart ass", then when it comes to responding to your posts, I'll have to be the little annoying one.

The fact that I haven't just straight out ignored you shows that I don't think you're a complete dummy. In fact, regardless of how you may view me, I don't think you're an idiot at all. You just seem like maybe you're trying for that "zing" I was talking about.

I mean you're asking about my response, but I already responded to your post. Where you take it from there is up to you.

I meant my posts in a half joking way, but I guess that's not coming across. I found it funny how half your first post was spent defining and pre-emptively defending against these so called Star Bucks Bad Asses. I found it amusing. But I'll stop with that if it means you can get over my jabs and actually answer the questions I'm posing, because isn't that the point of this thread?

 

[Silverstein]

Indeed sir, indeed...However. It's 4 am, I'll answer them in full tommorrow. But I'm glad that there is no hostility.

 

[Silverstein]

You say that doctors and garbage men earn the same wage, but doctors get more bonuses because they perform more complex tasks. Is this not in effect paying the doctors a higher wage? So why have a fake system that pretends to be equal, when it hasn't changed anything?

I also raised the issue of corruption. What checks and balances would you have in place to ensure the government in power remains honest?

And then there was my comment on human nature - people naturally being competitive. Most people don't want to do things unless they will gain from it, and it is a lot easier for people to gain things in a free market than in a 1984-style totalitarianism communist regime.

I answered the first part of this above. The thing about doctors is that it isn't giving them a higher wage, they are technically "winning" prizes. So it's like a national lottery. But instead of random numbers, it would be someone's like social security number or something like that. So someone who was elligable WILL win.

Checks and balances:
Officials are elected in by the people. But the "president" would be more like a prime minister. He only represents us in external affairs. The Governmental Committee of Justice, GCOJ, would vote amognst themselves for internal actions. And then the people would have a vote to show their opinion, but then the GCOJ would then re-vote based on the reactions from the people. Legally, they could keep the same opinion if they wanted to, they don't have to change it if the people disagree.

So the GCOJ would be more like the American president.

To review:
-Country has a prime minister..
-GCOJ serves as president as one.
-GCOJ officials are elected in.
-GCOJ officials, there's like 10 of them, serve their term for 4 years.

As for corruption, I also spoke to that...BUT again: I don't agree that people are naturally greedy or violent. I feel they are taught greed. You set two kids down to play.

Kid A receives blocks
Kid B receives action figures
A and B play together.

Give kid A and kid B blocks together and they may end up with one taking blocks from the other....You know why? Because they don't have their own. It's survival, not greed. Kids don't know about money, they don't know they need food. (yeah they know they get hungry)..So what is important to them? shiny blocks..

Also..in most cases, the children if raised by loving and friendly parents and brothers and sisters, would share the blocks. The whole survival thing I spoke about above, speaks towards children who are raised around an environment where you have to do this.