New Joe Fridays: Week 49

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http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays49.html

 

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Marvel Comics Presents:

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New Avengers #34

 

[Darthphere]

Let the *****ing begin!

Man, I don't know if I should be happy about the YA WWH one shot or sad.

 

[Sebastos]

New Avengers #34

Is this going to be some sort of future issue? What's wrong with Spider-Man and Dr. Strange? And Iron Fist looks like he's gone through a change.

 

[Darthphere]

More like a going back in time issue.

 

[Sebastos]

That would make alot more sense. That would explain why Iron Fist looks like Orson.

 

[Darthphere]

And why Luke has a tiara, Wolverine is in Samurai garb, why Peter is a geek, why Jessica Jones is Jewel, and why Dr. Strange is wearing a suit. Amongst other things.

 

[Sebastos]

Yeah it should be an interesting issue, I wish we had a description for it.

 

[PhotoJones]

Holy ****, the floodgates of preview artwork have been opened!

Yu really makes Cage's yellow outfit look pretty good. My other thought is, who did that Spider-Man, futuristic piece? Reminds me of the last episodes of the animated series.

 

[Sebastos]

Holy ****, the floodgates of preview artwork have been opened!

Yu really makes Cage's yellow outfit look pretty good. My other thought is, who did that Spider-Man, futuristic piece? Reminds me of the last episodes of the animated series.

Terry Dodson?

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

And Daredevil is a woman. No one has noticed that?

 

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And Daredevil is a woman. No one has noticed that?

That one's probably Echo.

Speaking of noticing things, there's no Jessica Drew.

 

[Sebastos]

^ So maybe she is the traitor?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That Thor pic made me smile so wide a single teardrop fell from my eye.

And why Luke has a tiara, Wolverine is in Samurai garb, why Peter is a geek, why Jessica Jones is Jewel, and why Dr. Strange is wearing a suit. Amongst other things.

Yeah, like CAP. Dude, you forgot to mention that CAP is in there. CAPTAIN freakin' AMERICA, dude! It's CAP!

 

[Sebastos]

That Thor pic made me smile so wide a single teardrop fell from my eye.

Same here. It's sure to be great. I can't wait to see what Thor will do.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

See, I was trying to limit my excitement to just the image. Otherwise my mind starts running through possibilities of what'll happen in the issue itself, and then another part of my mind reminds me that JMS is writing it. JMS, who gave us Reed Richards' astoundingly stupid argument for supporting the SHRA just a few months ago. Then I start worrying.

 

[Sebastos]

See, I was trying to limit my excitement to just the image. Otherwise my mind starts running through possibilities of what'll happen in the issue itself, and then another part of my mind reminds me that JMS is writing it. JMS, who gave us Reed Richards' astoundingly stupid argument for supporting the SHRA just a few months ago. Then I start worrying.

I'm sure all is in good hands. I for one am looking forward to JMS's take on Thor. It should be interesting and he sure sounds like he has a lot of faith of what he's doing with him.

 

[venom892]

Thing about JMS is he gone give us some great stuff and then he can give us some awful stuff.So hopefully he'll do great on Thor.Also that Spider-man Image really got me curious.

 

[Vanguard07]

Yeah me too... What title is that from?

Also what's the first one? Is that Hellcat? Why on earth wont she just stay dead? She serves no purpose whatsoever except as a corpse.

 

[Darthphere]

Says you.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I liked her when she was married to Daimon Hellstrom.

 

[Dread]

True as the sunrise, here come I with my poking at Joe Q's comments, which is utterly pointless because he never reads this. But it feels good.

Joe Q attempts to crawl out of this little firestorm over HEROES FOR HIRE #13, and basically sticks with his, "I never heard of hentai" excuse:

While I understand how some can see what they see and while I do acknowledge the validity of what they’re seeing based on this Hentai stuff, in no way was this our intent or the artist’s. I certainly wasn’t aware of any small sub genre of Manga porn, but obviously there are folks much more verse in Manga than I’ll ever be and I can certainly see why they would see what they see, so to them I apologize if it struck a chord that it was completely unintended to strike.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tentacle_rape

There. Internet search. Not even 2 minutes. Done by a fan. Suddenly I know something I didn't. Suddenly I know something about the biggest competition to the Big Two, which is Manga. Suddenly I am current with the expectations of the modern fan.

Under 240 seconds of effort is apparently too much for Joe here. Someone who is this ignorant about the current comic book medium honestly has no place being the EIC of biggest comic company right now. It adds to my "Joe is EIC by finding Stan Lee's golden ticket" theory.

Then he gives an apology, a rarity, but also in businesspeak. "I didn't make a mistake, but if people think I did, I apologize for something that was not my intention". Joe, Joe, Joe, if everyone says it is Hentai, then it is Hentai. Really, be honest.

He then goes on to list a laundry list of examples that have nothing to do with the cover. All of his examples were not so obvious. THIS is obvious. Anyone who has ever seen a Hentai manga or anime cover can match it to H4H #13 perfectly. Claiming mass ignorance actually makes it seem like he doesn't know a major cliche of his biggest competitor outside of DC, and an EIC needs to have knowledge about the medium, it's rivals, and the expectations. If I stabbed someone, and said, "But I didn't know a knife would hurt them", does that negate the act of stabbing? I think not. Ignorance is not an excuse. Joe would be best to ignore this question. He keeps making the hole bigger. Let it drop, let the issue see a +4% boost in sales due to the controversay and leave it at that. Besides, it may be canceled in August. At most, Joe could say, "Countless comics, including from the Distinguished Competition, have used sexualized images to sell books starring hot heroines. This is simply part of a trend that predates me." But that would require a competant, human brain and an open mind about what his audience expects, rather than playing the "holier than thou" elitist game of telling rather than listening, and insisting that the audience is wrong. Always.

A work of art, whether in picture or fiction, is what the audience makes it out to be.

- On another topic, the art from the new MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS looks good, and hopefully the flaws of that book have been ironed out. It needs to be relevant, somehow. All the Spidey's seems confusing, but frankly Peter David has done worse with his future stuff. I may give it a chance. MCP could give a show to see a lot of lessor known's get some tales again, like the old days, like Hellcat there.

- Good for Joe for mentioning some noteable, lengthy runs on some past books. Now, see, that was a semi-effective point. That was a knowledge of the fanbase and their expectations. Where is it more often?

- I am glad after several months, Bendis is acknowledging what was done to his own character, Night Nurse, by BKV. But will he negate it or run with it? However, that latest cover just looks wacky. Bendis relies on some wiggy stuff sometimes, so lord knows what that cover implies.