New Live Action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Movie In The Works? - Part 5

[TigerClaw]

According to Poni Boy, The first official look at the Turtles will come in EW within the next 2 weeks. (Depending on his comments about it being the third week edition of EW, probably this week Wed/Thurs. Don't quote me on that).


As far as a trailer, its possible we'll get it before this month is out (attached to 300 at the top of March), but I don't expect it until the middle of next month; attached to Need For Speed, Mr. Peabody, or (the likely choice) The Muppets: Most Wanted.

Noah is Paramount's next big film, so that's a possibility as well.

I hope we get something official before the end of February.

 

[TigerClaw]

Besides, plenty of films put out teasers with no actual footage. Or, you just put out some clips from the film that feature extras or wide shots of New York mixed with dialog clips, and just when you're about to get to a shot of the turtles, you cut to the film's logo.

I have no doubt they'll be rendering CGI down to the very last second, but that's no excuse for having absolutely nothing out there only 6 months away from release. It's stalling at this point.



Yeah, the maquettes are blurry, full-body shots, and that takes a lot of attention away from their faces, and I think the faces are going to be a big problem for a lot of people. The accessories are (in my opinion) unecessary, but that comes down to taste, while I find the faces genuinely unsettling. We'll see if they fix it up by the first trailer, but I don't think it's likely.

Yeah, I remember when the first Transformers movie was coming out. They put out a teaser trailer before they started filming and the footage they showed looked like video that was shot of a lunar rover on the moon.

However that footage even ended up in the film too.

 

[Quasimod0]

When I first saw that Transformers teaser, the whole theater erupted with laughter when the tile came up. lol. Little did they know how big it would become

 

[Poni_Boy]

According to Poni Boy, The first official look at the Turtles will come in EW within the next 2 weeks. (Depending on his comments about it being the third week edition of EW, probably this week Wed/Thurs. Don't quote me on that).


As far as a trailer, its possible we'll get it before this month is out (attached to 300 at the top of March), but I don't expect it until the middle of next month; attached to Need For Speed, Mr. Peabody, or (the likely choice) The Muppets: Most Wanted.

Noah is Paramount's next big film, so that's a possibility as well.

I'm guessing Need for Speed. From what I heard last year they were shooting for Robocop but that doesn't seemed to have banned out.

Same goes for the EW thing. Last year I heard the March issue. But that might have changed if they pushed their Batman/Superman coverage up for some reason.

It is crazy they don't have anything official out six months before the release. It almost makes me wish other movies would take the same approach. Keeps the mystery alive.

Yes. Hell yes. I'd be ok with one spoiler-less trailer and some pics. But that's obviously not the case.

Also, aside from a cast pic and concept art same can be said about Guardians of the Galaxy. And Marvel has much more at stake with that than Paramount has with this. Plus TMNT is already part of the pop culture lexicon

I'm thinking since they only have to animate four of them it should be about Avatar quality. ILM does good work when they got top tier people on it. 2003 Hulk still looks good, size issues notwithstanding.

I'd much rather they take their time than rush something out like the first ASM 2 footage that looked like a video game. Only one shot for a first impression. Do it right

 

[Klank]

I'd much rather they take their time than rush something out like the first ASM 2 footage that looked like a video game. Only one shot for a first impression. Do it right

Two things wrong with this to me;

1. They aren't taking their time. Since the pushback and budget cuts they've been working on a clock. The script was still being written as they were filming in fact it's been said by one of the actors that a major plot point was thought in the middle of production. They are rushing this.

2. They've made numerous first impressions. From that leaked script to the set photos confirming many aspects survived from that script to the childrens Halloween costume to leaked photos of the maquettes and the action figures etc

I think a very valid point has been made that if they don't show us anything then things will eventually leak out which will highlight their product in an unflattering light like that kids costume or the action figures. If they'd released concept art or designs we could at least have seen them in a way that had a certain amount of professional sheen.

We've already had a bunch of negative first impressions. Right they should be doing what they can to try and reassure they are on the right track. The fact that they aren't makes me think that perhaps that they know what they have isn't that good.

 

[Quasimod0]

The general public has had no first impression at all. We aren't even close to the general public. Most people probably don't know there's a Ninja Turtles movie coming out.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Problems with your theories:

1. They aren't taking their time. Since the pushback and budget cuts they've been working on a clock. The script was still being written as they were filming in fact it's been said by one of the actors that a major plot point was thought in the middle of production. They are rushing this.

The fact they did push it back means they are taking their time. "Taking their time" does not mean "sitting on their lazy asses." It means working as hard/fast/productive as necessary to get it right. That includes working around the clock (which is the case for 99% of these movies up to the week of release)

2. They've made numerous first impressions. From that leaked script to the set photos confirming many aspects survived from that script to the childrens Halloween costume to leaked photos of the maquettes and the action figures etc

None of those are first impressions to the general public. None. You're confusing messageboard posters and diehard blog readers with the GA. Like Sam Jackson says "Trailers are the only thing that matter until the damn thing comes out"

I think a very valid point has been made that if they don't show us anything then things will eventually leak out which will highlight their product in an unflattering light like that kids costume or the action figures. If they'd released concept art or designs we could at least have seen them in a way that had a certain amount of professional sheen.

I agree, if they never show anything official about a movie (magazine stills, Facebook/Twitter marketing, trailers, TV spots) then people will only judge it based on leaked content. Thankfully, that is never the case.

We've already had a bunch of negative first impressions. Right they should be doing what they can to try and reassure they are on the right track. The fact that they aren't makes me think that perhaps that they know what they have isn't that good.

Not to me. I LOVE the leaked stuff that's come out. So have a lot of other people. Considering that messageboard fans are always split with properties like this I'd say their unofficial "first impression" is as good as it could have been.

But, again, I'm not the GA. You are not the GA. The GA only cares about trailers. Then posters. Then word of mouth (from people they know). Then reviews.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I am beyond glad they are taking their time with this. And by taking time, I actually mean taking time to make this film the right way.

In fact, I applaud that they've waited this long to reveal the Turtles, as well as delaying the film and its production to make sure its right when it's released.

Yes, delays more than often show that there are problems, but it also shows that they recognize the problem(s), and are trying to fix it. So yeah, we haven't seen anything yet besides what has leaked, and they've delayed and have proceeded for a long time without showing us anything. But it's better to wait and make sure its good, then to get something out before it's ready. It's like what Poni Boy said about the ASM2 trailer. It was very clear that much of was in the first trailer (released in December) wasn't finished. But had they listened to fanboys, they would released a trailer in July.

Imagine how it would've looked then.

The same principle applies here.


Now as far as the leaks go, nothing has truly been negative outside of the "Blue Door" script, which in and of itself wasn't entirely bad. In fact, much of that script was pretty good. Particularly in regards to how the Turtles themselves were portrayed. The Turtles, IMO, were done perfectly in that script, outside of a few questionable one liners. Their personalities were on point, the sense of brotherhood between them was definitely present, and IMO, the action and stunts sounded like they'd be worth the price of admission alone.

Now yeah, were that script lacked was in every other regard, but they took their time, revamped the script, and went in a different direction. A direction, that many fans had been wanting them to go in.

So, IMO, I think this film is in much better shape than we think. Or at least, like to admit.

It could turn out to be a steaming pile of crap, but at least we know they are trying to make a good film. And if the reactions to the recent leaks are anything to go by, they are succeeding. At least with the portion of the audience that is most likely to hate the film.

 

[Donut]

The only thing we know that was supposedly changed from the original script was The Origins of The Turtles. For all we know everything else was kept. We just dont know enough with this movie

 

[Zaron]

The only thing we know that was supposedly changed from the original script was The Origins of The Turtles. For all we know everything else was kept. We just dont know enough with this movie

Not entirely true. We know April is a reporter now. We know Casey most likely isn't the main focus of the film (or we would have heard something about him by now) and we know at least a few Channel 6 characters and the Turtles' van have been added. We know a character named Eric Sachs has been added as well, so Shredder has probably been at least slightly altered.

I know we still don't know much, but we do know a few things.

 

[SpideyFan866]

The only thing we know that was supposedly changed from the original script was The Origins of The Turtles. For all we know everything else was kept. We just dont know enough with this movie

As someone who has read the original script, and has followed this film VERY closely since the delay and script rewrite, I can tell you with full confidence that this is a completely different film.

At the LEAST, 90% different.

For example, Vernon Fenwick, Channel 6 news, and the rest of the Channel 6 news crew were NOT in that original script. Hell, in the original script, April didn't even have a real job reporting. She was an unpaid intern at CBS (gotta love brand placement), and the only time that "job" was relevant in the script was to explain A) the issues in her and Casey's relationship and B) to serve as a plot point and location for where the Turtles find a portal to Dimension X and have a cool scene where they evade the Foot.

But let's move on, and talk about the script exclusions some more.

Also not in the Blue Door script are Karai and Baxter Stockman. Neither of those 2 are to be found in that script, but are said to play considerably large roles in the new one. Also different is the Shredder who, while still largely different than what we've seen before, is said to be much closer to previous adaptations and the source material, than the "Spiky Alien From Dimension X" version that we saw in the Blue Door story.


Now, on the flipside, there are some very notable characters that were featured in the original script, that are no longer present.

Bebop and Rocksteady were featured in considerably large roles in that script, having a fight scene with Splinter in towards the middle of that script, and then being present in the climatic battle between Shredder and The Foot; and Splinter, April, The Military, and Casey Jones.


And while on the subject, lets not forget Casey Jones, who was arguably the main character in the original script and had as much screen time, if not more, than April, let alone the Turtles. And where is he now? Completely gone from the script.

There's also elements such as the clothing, Donny's gadgets, and the Turtle Van, which all were not present in the original script.

Also, there are scenes that have been filmed (such as the infamous trampoline scene and the Times Square scene) that were not present in the original script.


Point is, there has been a VERY noticeable revamp to this film. Now that's not to say there aren't some retained elements, because there are, such as the militarized foot (whom do sport a traditional look at points in the new story). However, much has been changed. Enough to consider this a entirely new film.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I am beyond glad they are taking their time with this. And by taking time, I actually mean taking time to make this film the right way.

In fact, I applaud that they've waited this long to reveal the Turtles, as well as delaying the film and its production to make sure its right when it's released.

Yes, delays more than often show that there are problems, but it also shows that they recognize the problem(s), and are trying to fix it. So yeah, we haven't seen anything yet besides what has leaked, and they've delayed and have proceeded for a long time without showing us anything. But it's better to wait and make sure its good, then to get something out before it's ready. It's like what Poni Boy said about the ASM2 trailer. It was very clear that much of was in the first trailer (released in December) wasn't finished. But had they listened to fanboys, they would released a trailer in July.

Imagine how it would've looked then.

The same principle applies here.


Now as far as the leaks go, nothing has truly been negative outside of the "Blue Door" script, which in and of itself wasn't entirely bad. In fact, much of that script was pretty good. Particularly in regards to how the Turtles themselves were portrayed. The Turtles, IMO, were done perfectly in that script, outside of a few questionable one liners. Their personalities were on point, the sense of brotherhood between them was definitely present, and IMO, the action and stunts sounded like they'd be worth the price of admission alone.

Now yeah, were that script lacked was in every other regard, but they took their time, revamped the script, and went in a different direction. A direction, that many fans had been wanting them to go in.

So, IMO, I think this film is in much better shape than we think. Or at least, like to admit.

It could turn out to be a steaming pile of crap, but at least we know they are trying to make a good film. And if the reactions to the recent leaks are anything to go by, they are succeeding. At least with the portion of the audience that is most likely to hate the film.

Agree with your entire post. Highlights are in bold for the CliffsNotes readers.

 

[Poni_Boy]

You just can't appease some fans. Ever. If it's not "SHOW ME SOMETHING NOW" then it's "YOU SHOWED ME WHAT I WANTED AND IT LOOKS LIKE UNFINISHED CRAP"

Just, damn, there are SO many movies coming out throughout the year. Go on to something else. Let em show you the goods whey they're ready.

 

[SpideyFan866]

You just can't appease some fans. Ever. If it's not "SHOW ME SOMETHING NOW" then it's "YOU SHOWED ME WHAT I WANTED AND IT LOOKS LIKE UNFINISHED CRAP"

Just, damn, there are SO many movies coming out throughout the year. Go on to something else. Let em show you the goods whey they're ready.

Yep. On point.

Fans are NEEEVER happy.

 

[Quasimod0]

I'm a fan. And I'm pretty happy. lol

 

[SpideyFan866]

I'm a fan. And I'm pretty happy. lol

Does this make you happy?

 

[Poni_Boy]

That's so much more respectful of the cartoon. Dammit Bay.

 

[RAE072]

such as the militarized foot (whom do sport a traditional look at points in the new story).

Where?

You mean those guys in black ops gear with guns and these masks?

http://www.evike.com/products/30030/

Yeah, not much ninja about those guys.

They're pretty purely military guys now.

 

[jaymes_e06]

Does this make you happy?

Is her headband braided?

 

[SpideyFan866]

Where?

You mean those guys in black ops gear with guns and these masks?

http://www.evike.com/products/30030/

Yeah, not much ninja about those guys.

They're pretty purely military guys now.

Nope. One of the guys who played a Foot Soldier (particularly, one who peforms Hara kiri before (in front of) The Shredder) confirmed on Instagram that they do wear a traditional gi in the film:

http://instagram.com/p/aZDe5mrQTe/

http://instagram.com/p/aZDukYrQT0/

 

[Poni_Boy]

Booyah

 

[RAE072]

Nope. One of the guys who played a Foot Soldier (particularly, one who peforms Hara kiri before (in front of) The Shredder) confirmed on Instagram that they do wear a traditional gi in the film:

http://instagram.com/p/aZDe5mrQTe/

http://instagram.com/p/aZDukYrQT0/

Oh yeah. Ritualistic suicide in a movie with this:

THAT scene totally won't be cut from the movie.

And hell, even if it IS in the movie, it'll be so hilarious to see William Fichtner tell a white guy in a gi to perform hari kari on himself.

One step UP from Cobra Kai.

 

[SpideyFan866]

Yep. On point.

Fans are NEEEVER happy.

Nope. One of the guys who played a Foot Soldier (particularly, one who peforms Hara kiri before (in front of) The Shredder) confirmed on Instagram that they do wear a traditional gi in the film:

http://instagram.com/p/aZDe5mrQTe/

http://instagram.com/p/aZDukYrQT0/

Oh yeah. Ritualistic suicide in a movie with this:

THAT scene totally won't be cut from the movie.

And hell, even if it IS in the movie, it'll be so hilarious to see William Fichtner tell a white guy in a gi to perform hari kari on himself.

One step UP from Cobra Kai.

My point stands.

Thank you RAE072, for proving me correct.

 

[RAE072]

My point stands.

Thank you RAE072, for proving me correct.

I actually WOULD be happy about it if Shredder/the Foot had any semblance of Japanese culture to them at all.

Or, you know, if Shredder was still a Japanese man.

And not a weeaboo apparently.

 

[Poni_Boy]

My point stands.

Thank you RAE072, for proving me correct.

The 12 Steps of Messageboard Commenting for Novices:

1 ) State your opinion in an exaggerated way for shock value (i.e. "This movie will suck. We all know it.")

2 ) Don't let people who've been through the waiting game talk you off the ledge (i.e. "It's cool man, just chill." "It's doomed you don't know what you're talking about.")

3 ) When you see set photos/leaked artwork claim they reinforce your opinion (i.e. "Told you. Nothing like the comics. What a mess.")

4 ) When people respond positively to said set photos/leaked artwork make sure to try and change their mind with the most base insults possible (i.e. "You're not a real fan")

5 ) Even though you've expressed nothing but disdain for this movie makes sure you blame the studio for not giving you official images or footage yet

6 ) Repeat step 5 daily

7 ) When you state a claim as fact, don't let actual facts deter you from standing your ground (i.e. "Foot soldiers are dressed like mercenaries, not ninjas. How lame." "But here is a Foot soldier actor who says they dress like ninjas in the movie [presents proof]" "He's lying. And ugly. Still lame.")

8 ) Watch the trailer, react accordingly (i.e. "Whatever")

9 ) Complain until the movie is released (i.e. "Why did they only release 14 pictures and not 32?" or "How am I supposed to know if I want to see this movie if the director won't give me all the spoilers?")

10 ) See the movie opening weekend. Freak out.

11 ) Talk about how awesome it is, and how you told everyone from the start that it would rock

12 ) Buy all the things related to the movie even X-small Target shirts. Shun any movie/comic/cartoon property that came before it as inferior regardless of what your previous affinity for it was.

Bonus round: When the first details you don't like about the sequel are announced begin at step 1 again