Comics No ASM#531 Thread?

1) Look at all the other threads around, and you can pretty much get the jist of what people feel of every Spider-Man comic written by JMS these days

2) Saying you're collecting them, even though you think they suck, this comment will get you a lot of hate at the moment. Main reason being, Spider-Man comics are REALLY s**t right now due to MANY people having this mentality.

Marvel look at sales, not what we say, so if you buy, Marvel think you likee. Lots of people do this, Marvel think lots pf people likee. S**t stories galore, yet, those complaining, are still buying these damn books. This makes me dizzy

 

Yeah....pretty much what he said.

I can't fault a guy for collecting the issues, but you know you could always go back and buy them as back issues, and Marvel doesn't get money from them, right? That's what I plan to do....or not. If I have the spare cash, and this thing blows over, then I might pcik them up. For now, I'm content to read them in the store for free.

 

However, with th' no overprint policy in place an' Spidey's overall popularity, you may end up payin' MORE fer these issues than when they're new. That's th' danger. And really, $2.99 is already too much fer this crap...who's gonna pay $5 or more?

 

that's what i was going to say....right now you buy the comic for $2.99 or whatver they cost....if you wait, you will end up paying 4 or 5 dollars for the same comic down the road.

and marvel always gets the money. remember, they print out X number of comics and then the distributors purchase them until they run out. in the end, if you buy back issues it's only hurting your pocket not theirs.

and although some of the storys right now might not be the best, i will be buying them to collect them as well. and if people want to get upset at you for that, that is their problem not yours.

 

Yea, totally. I held back from buying all the Civil War tie ins, thinking I'd buy 'em for cheap later, but due to the hype regarding CW, the books cost tons!

What makes it worse, everyone's relying on Civil War to really fix the Spidey universe, and if Civil War is as great as it's supposed to be, than the issues are just gonna cost more!

I made the same move when JMS 1st started on ASM, I didn't believe the hype, and ended up having to spend a bit more for those issues.

And after Sins Past, those issues have now decreased in value! Not below what I bought them for, but they're about the same again

 

Eh....if it comes down to it, I don't mind. Also, I don't HAVE to buy them. I'm not that much of a completist. I'll let the issues go if I have to. No biggie.

 

But yer suggestin' that move to completists, an' we're just educatin' you on why that may not be as beneficial as ya think. Sure, it'd be a big FU to Marvel right now, but then when we try to patch up th' holes we're th' ones who end up ****ed. Even when back issues go on sale, you know how long it takes to find a Spidey fer UNDER $2? And especially if Spidey 3 rocks hard, they're gonna be even MORE expensive. You'd end up havin' to wait at least a decade to get a decently priced backissue in decent condition.

 

Same. I just want all the important issues, with GOOD stories. No one cares about the s**tty books. The difference with those early JMS issues is, they.... were... actually pretty damn excellent. These Spidey issues, I read 'em, all in the store, and just laughed. Nice covers though.

 

Yeah, JMS's early run was good stuff. Although everyone knows I don't care fer Romita's work.

 

I read ASM #531 and glanced through the NA Annual. I may buy them later... depends on how much I like how this shapes up.

SPOILERS:
Couple of thoughts... Since Spidey admired Tony's armor (post Hydra arc) and Tony made him "the suit," Peter has commented several times "why not rocket boots..." In this story, it was "I told Tony I needed rocket boots" as Titanium Man was able to get away... But it turned out that Tony wanted the fight to end the way it did, because HE set it up.

The reason it struck me as significant this time was because it became really clear that Tony is manipulating and monitoring Peter and it's obvious that he doesn't want him to have TOO many advantages.

But Peter is no dummy... he sensed that it was all too coincendental... Titanium Man attacking Tony, while he was in Washington, when no one knew they were going to be there, except the senators... taping the fight, and playing it for the senators, as evidence that the bill is a bad idea.

Peter showed up in the next hearing as Spidey and testified the recording Tony had was legit... That Titanium Man had said his "employeer" wanted Tony dead, because they wanted the the government to go ahead with the bill, as it would result in the US being defenseless... But, the senator said Spidey couldn't go "on record" if he couldn't be sworn in and "identified." (Is this true? Can no one be an annonomous witness? Can they not just identify him as Spider-Man?!)

As they were leaving Peter finally asked Tony if he had anything to do with the "attack" and Tony said no... Peter said (something like) you'd tell me if you did, right? And Tony said, absolutely... as we see him in the next scene as Iron Man, meeting up with Titanium Man, and paying him off... Clear that Tony just bare-face LIED to Peter.

I get the feeling that Tony is really trying to stop the bill... but he's a realist. He already has a path of action mapped out, if he can't stop it. He is going to be "Lincoln" fighting tooth and nail to get everyone on the same page with registration.

There was a funny moment, when Spidey said to the Russian Titanium Man, "say moose and squirrel for me... you know you want to." Iron Man later says the same thing to TMan... obviously he had been listening to/watching Peter's every move... subtle little cliff hanger.

 

For those of you who haven't seen the preview yet:

EDIT: images taken down.

 

Exactly. I don't deem these issues to be "important". They are just useles stories to fill in the gaps between "The Other" and "Civil War". I've read these issues in the shop, and it's clear that, whatever JMS had going for him in the beginning, is long gone now.

 

Marvel wins again.

 

As pointed out if you are not collecting ASM right now but intend to pick em later, well you can be sure to pay a lot more for them.
If some peeps wanna collect just so they have a full run thats fine by me, there not trying to make me buy them.
#529 has already gone to its third print bear in mind,..

 

Milking the cow for all it's worth before all the cows die.

 

it'll take a lot more than a few fans who are not happy with the series right now to put a dent in Marvel Spider-Man sales. Like Dangerous pointed out, they are on the 3rd run of #529.

i think the best plan of action is to keep on expressing your disappointments with the series and hopefully marvel will listen or make adjustments to correct any concerns. i know that sounds utopian, but hey, its the best i've got.

 

All that has resulted in so far is Marvel saying "we screwed up", blaming Mary Jane, and promising to "fix" Spider-Man (an attempt which will, undoubtedly, cause still MORE havok).

Not very encouraging.

 

Apropos of Spidey #531, tesitfying before the Congress and fighting the Titanium Man(usually closer to Shell Head's power levels). First of all, has anybody noticed that the TM armor is closer to that worn by the Gremlin than Boris Bullski beginning the old Tales of Suspense. Who is the figure in the Iron Man armor who pays TM off(suggesting that the fight was staged), given that Tony Stark has outed himself, surely there is precedent for heroes to testify before the courts without having to reveal their secret identity(as Spidey did when he sued J. Jonah Jameson for libel) so why not Congress?
last but not least, what position will foreign based heroes such as Canada's Alpha Flight or Russia's Winter Guard take on the "Civil War" given that it potentiallly affects their members too-or will they remain discreetly neutral-as their governments are?

Terry

 

from what i understand, i think this regestration act is only for the united states. if it were a world concern, i think they would probably take it to the united nations.

just to make something clear here, peter was asking tony stark that if the fight was staged would he tell him and tony responded yes?

civil war is shaping up to be something pretty exciting.

 

No hate from me. If you want to collect, then collect. I'd suggest waiting till you could find it in a long box, but I'm no collecter. Might not be worth as much that way.

 

I do believe it has the best cover ever. BUt thats just me,

 

I still havent picked this up yet. Is it any good? Whats the deal?

 

No it wasn't.lol.

Damn, I know it's not permenent but looking at that damn Iron-Spidey costume just makes my eyes bleed. It's so goddamn ugly. I really can't remember the last good ASM issue I read. What exactly was the point of "The Other"? All the action in these 3 issues and not ONE use of his "new powers"? I hate the idea of the new powers so I have no problem with that at all but still...just seems like Marvel isn't thinking ahead with ANY of there ideas. There just throwing stuff out there cause it seems "cool" at the moment.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the Civil War arc. Hopefully Spidey will return to the old Red and blue tights and everything will be just fine after that...No stingers....no bulletproof suits.....nothing...well a guy can hope can't he.

 

The look hasnt lasted long but it will surely be done by the end of the Civil War. I want to pick 531 and see what is goin on.