No Origin... Confirmed by Latino Review

[Webhead2006]

totally david

 

[BrlntDsgse]

I'm very much a fan of doing a new origin. For those who insist we've seen it all before ... WE HAVEN'T.

I keep posting how Krypton would be the story of Jor-el's heroic actions against a ruling body who refuse to face their own iminent demise and how he risked all to save his infant son. It wouldn't have been more than 10 minutes. You'd be surprised how much story you can squeeze-in in only that amount of time. Smallville wouldn't have been much more than 5 minutes. That would barely impact the running time of the film and the 'fidgeting' quotient would be fairly low because there'd be so much intersting stuff going on.

I'm so wanting to see a beautiful new version of Krypton on the big screen a la Byrne. Those tall golden spires reaching impossibly high up into a bright blue sky and, all around them, lush foliage.

I don't know how Goyer/Nolan will separate this new franchise from anything that's gone before without some kind of origin. Maybe, like some are saying, we'll get that from Brainiac as a flashback. Maybe the film won't have Clark know where he's from until his encounter with him.

Couldn't agree with you more about a NEW origin, with new, modern day effects. I've also thought that I'd love to see the Byrne architecture, but on a more lush, utopian rather than cold and dystopian Krypton. Maybe even a little influence of the Byrne style of dress with the long flowing tunics with that weird white trim going down their arms(minus the head coverings), very sci-fi looking. I'd even throw in a few more touches of the Donner crystalline architecture, too, just because it's become so iconic. And definetely use the Byrne rockets visual design. The idea of them using Brainiac certainly opens up the possibility of doing an origin more "woven in" with the plot than feeling like a retread at the beginning, which is how this same team did it with BEGINS.

 

[BH/HHH]

I'm not going to make any assumptions about whether or not the origin will be covered until we have more info. Not being an origin movie could simply mean that it won't be an hour into the film when he finally dons the costume. We could have the Kents finding Clark when he's a baby, and then during the opening credits showa montage of him growing into maturity and donning the costume by the end.

Personally though, I really wish they'd go all out with the origin and have Metallo, Lex, and some other evil robots integrated into it. I had a really cool concept for the scene where young Clark discovers that he can fly, and it would take a lot of cues from the introduction of Supergirl from STAS. He'd be flying alongside birds, skimming over lakes while his reflection gleams in the water, all with an enchanted look of adolescent glee on his face. Like most fanboy ideas we'll probably never see that anyway, but still there's a lot that could be done with the origin today that was impossible in 1978.

Thats what I don't want. I don't want it to be an hour before he becomes Superman. I like the idea of flashbacks to his youth in Smallville within the film but I don't think we need to set the everything up again with half hour on Krypton/Half hour in Smallville. I think it would be best to start in the credits with him been sent to earth and some Smallville stuff then when the movie kicks in start with him ariving at the Daily Planet.

 

[JLU51306]

I don't feel the origins necessary. Like someone said on the IGN boards, it would be cool if they could do it like the Incredible Hulk movie, and display the origin within the first 10-15 minutes of the movie, and have the rest of the movie tell an action packed story, not at all connected to the same old origin we've heard. I am all for it not being an origin story, rather than a whole movies worth of an origin 'retelling'. I don't think that would be the way to go with a 'fresh reboot'.

 

[BH/HHH]

I don't feel the origins necessary. Like someone said on the IGN boards, it would be cool if they could do it like the Incredible Hulk movie, and display the origin within the first 10-15 minutes of the movie, and have the rest of the movie be about a already exposed Superman, instead of a whole movies worth of an origin 'retelling'.

I think the same mate

 

[DavidTyler]

.... I don't want it to be an hour before he becomes Superman.

I keep saying that the whole origin from Krypton to Smallville could be told in around 15 minutes. People here keep saying an hour...... everyone should pay attention to the next film they watch and monitor how long scenes are. A scene usually runs one to three minutes. How do you think they managed to squeeze in so much story back when televsion shows were 30 minutes?

 

[BH/HHH]

I keep saying that the whole origin from Krypton to Smallville could be told in around 15 minutes. People here keep saying an hour...... everyone should pay attention to the next film they watch and monitor how long scenes are. A scene usually runs one to three minutes. How do you think they managed to squeeze in so much story back when televsion shows were 30 minutes?

I was referring to the orginal Superman movie and I even said myself the origin could be told even in the opening credits or even later in the film in flashbacks etc. All I was saying that I dont think you should start out with Jor-El on Krypton, this is Superman's film therefore he should be the focal point.

 

[Frodo]

The opening credits is more then enough imo. It can still be a reboot without showing every single thing such as Krypton politics, Smallville, etc. I think the origin should really be shown in full if it's crucial to the overall plot of the film, not just to update what's been done before imo.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

A step in the right direction.

All of us know Superman's origins inside and out anyway. It's one of those matters that have become common knowledge to most everyone on the planet. It's not necessary to return to those origins in-depth. . . not for a while. That said I wouldn't mind a few flashbacks of his origins as long as they serve a distinct purpose within the film.

 

[BH/HHH]

The opening credits is more then enough imo. It can still be a reboot without showing every single thing such as Krypton politics, Smallville, etc. I think the origin should really be shown in full if it's crucial to the overall plot of the film, not just to update what's been done before imo.

Exactly, for me opening credits show him been sent from Krypton and the smallville stuff even if its just comic drawings and then have the movie start with him arriving in Metropolis.

 

[kalelkilla]

A step in the right direction.

All of us know Superman's origins inside and out anyway. It's one of those matters that have become common knowledge to most everyone on the planet. It's not necessary to return to those origins in-depth. . . not for a while. That said I wouldn't mind a few flashbacks of his origins as long as they serve a distinct purpose within the film.

Bingo. I thought the best parts of Batman Begins was learning how Bruce Wayne became Batman. We need to learn how Clark Kent became Superman. The Nolans and Goyer undertand this obviously. The origin hasn't been on the big screen for more than 30 years. You don't need to know what Jor-El ate the night before he sent Kal-El to earth but you need to explain the main points of why Superman became Superman. you to answer the "whys?" and the "hows?" that the general audience is going to have and that any good script will answer.

 

[BH/HHH]

Flashbacks I'll be fine with just don't want to have to sit through all the Krypton/Smallville stuff again waiting for Superman to show up. Its right that it should only be used if its integral to the plot of the film but they can always deal with the origin in a later film if the plot in this one doesn't call for it.

 

[DIRECTOR]

for a good well made movie, an origin is necessary when introducing Superman with new actors.

I want to see Clark and Lois meeting for the first time
I want to see Clark and Jimmy meet for the first time
I want to see Clark entering into the Daily Planet for the first time

That is one thing I didn't enjoy in Superman Returns........... I can't believe in Superman and Lois if I don't see how they started.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

for a good well made movie, an origin is necessary when introducing Superman with new actors.

I want to see Clark and Lois meeting for the first time
I want to see Clark and Jimmy meet for the first time
I want to see Clark entering into the Daily Planet for the first time

That is one thing I didn't enjoy in Superman Returns........... I can't believe in Superman and Lois if I don't see how they started.

A logical point made. I agree that was missing from SR. Especially having a returns story for a franchise that didn't show him leave in the first place.

 

[BH/HHH]

for a good well made movie, an origin is necessary when introducing Superman with new actors.

I want to see Clark and Lois meeting for the first time
I want to see Clark and Jimmy meet for the first time
I want to see Clark entering into the Daily Planet for the first time

That is one thing I didn't enjoy in Superman Returns........... I can't believe in Superman and Lois if I don't see how they started.

yeah which is what you will get if its his first day on the job. When we say origin we mean Krypton and Smallville.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Flashbacks I'll be fine with just don't want to have to sit through all the Krypton/Smallville stuff again waiting for Superman to show up. Its right that it should only be used if its integral to the plot of the film but they can always deal with the origin in a later film if the plot in this one doesn't call for it.

I think it should be around 35-45 minutes of setting up the story before we even see Superman.

It should be a big moment.

If you introduce what happened to Jor-el (w/ fan favorite plot involving Brainiac) and parallel that with Kal-el's future confrontation with the same foe... It would make for a better story, if we actually see what happens to the father first.

It was done quickly and effectively in Star Trek. It made you more interested in Kirk, because you can quantify the similarities in father and son, and show how the son learns from his father's heroics... Ultimately forming better decisions making him the hero he is today.


Of course other time needs spent on his introduction to the DP. I'd like to see him have to make an effort to get the job, ala L&C btw.

 

[Webhead2006]

good points director, and that is what i want to see too, and i hope this is how we will see this new film start out. YEs i want an origin. i could care less if its done by flashbacks, or straight from krypton to smallville to metropolis life. There is a wide range of telling we can do. I just want to see a new take on things so we know why these takes on these characters are the way they are. I just dont want to start in the middle and go on from there with nothing of how things came to be told. Same with origin we should have the chance to see something new with origin in what ever fashion they might do it. Not having any origin would be a foul move in my book.

 

[BH/HHH]

We have such a divide here I want the origin but not fully blown. But we can debate it for ages we wont know until we hear something official or see the movie.

 

[Nathan]

I think it should be around 35-45 minutes of setting up the story before we even see Superman.

It should be a big moment.

Does it need to be a big moment? I mean, it's not like we're seeing Superman again for the first time in decades. Audiences just saw him back in 2006. We know who he is, what he looks like and what he can do. Do we really need to wait over half an our to see the man in blue?

Why not start the Movie with a bang, have **** going down and you can still have the big Superman moment as he descents and takes care of the problem.

 

[Nightwing1977]

honestly........ Not many people know the origins.

Sorry, but I disagree. I think many know more than you think. My parents are not Superman fans or even read the comic books, but they know quite well about his origin. And so does the general audiences too.

It's very important for them to show the origins, because if we are being introduced to a new Superman, we have to see how he becomes Superman and why....... this is Superman Returns all over again???? Can't anybody see that??

I think some want the origin all over again because it's a reboot. We don't need every reboot to show the origin again. Some flashback here or there is fine. Just show some part of the flashbacks more than what we seen with Superman Returns.

 

[Doctor Jones]

If they do another origin film, this has already gone down the ****ter.

 

[Kurosawa]

I'd show enough of Krypton in flashbacks to where people would want to see more. This means avoiding the Byrne monstrosity and doing a more faithful Art-Deco styled Krypton and make it beautiful. Then if the movie does well...instant prequel is set up.

 

[Crook]

I'd show enough of Krypton in flashbacks to where people would want to see more. This means avoiding the Byrne monstrosity and doing a more faithful Art-Deco styled Krypton and make it beautiful. Then if the movie does well...instant prequel is set up.

More faithful to what?

 

[SuperDaniel]

Superman`s origins isn`t Jor-el sending him to Earth. At least not to me. That is what the general audience knows.

To me Superman`s origins is why Clark Kent decided to be Superman. Why would he devote his life to help people? This is what i wanted to see and this time must be a better answer than brainwashed in the fortress of solitude or because he is the light to show us the way...

 

[SuperDaniel]

More faithful to what?

If Kurosawa don`t see Siegel & Shuster Krypton with people flying around or whatever crap there was in the golden age version, orphanage and all he won`t be satisfied.

LOL, i just saw the superfriends and fleisher origin on youtube and IT SUCKS SO BAD. Why the **** would the Kents give Kal-el to an orphanage?! aND BECAUSE the owner was scare, that`s why he would give him back to the Kents. LMAO. Terrible writing.