No Origin... Confirmed by Latino Review

well for me like i said it would be best to have a new origin so we can see why this new take is different from the donner movie or any other animated or live action take on the character. Now if we dont see a full blown origin i can live with just getting a few details and all that. Like film starts out and clark knows he is an alien and that is why he has these powers. But he doesnt know of krypton/jorel/lara. But learns of it through the course of the film. Them if the legal stuff isnt settled prior to this film to and settled after the film. Expand on it in sequel.
 
ok yea i am just saying as i said i would be disapointed if there is not even any hints or talks of his past and we are jsut getting a supes that been around for awhile. I would like to at least have a few things seen/told of and have it start with clark coming to the city for the first time.

Personally, I'm hoping that's the case as well since it allows them to reintroduce Superman without bogging down the story with drawn out Krypton and Smallville scenes.
 
Personally, I'm hoping that's the case as well since it allows them to reintroduce Superman without bogging down the story with drawn out Krypton and Smallville scenes.

They could even show origin in the opening credits like they did in the Incredible Hulk.
 
I'd much rather see the origin in the credits, then have yet another Superman property with an origin. If WB thought people didn't like the boring Superman returns, they'd be making the same mistake with a two hour retelling of his boring origin.

He has the most well known origin next to Batman, and Jesus. No reason to do it again. People already know it.
 
We don't even need to see an origin at all. Not even in the credits. People ****ing know how it happens. If I see it in the credits I'll just roll my eyes and think, "Jesus, do they think we don't know what it is?"
 
Good news. Glad we won't get like another first 45 minutes of his origin like in the first film. I prefer to show some flashback here or there than telling his origin all over again. Just start the film in Metropolis with Supes kicking some asses. :supes:
 
Lois & Clark did it perfect, imo.

Start the movie just as how that series started and you're golden.

If you don't know the origins of Superman, then don't bother to watch it. But then again, you've been living under a rock for quite some time if you have no idea where Superman came from.
 
You know..as cool as it would be to see another interpretation of the origin.. new visuals .. a new take on krypton...the more I think about it..the more I like the idea of this picking up that superman "is" or soon "will be".. not unlike the new earth one comic DC is doing...(the concept not the story line) - it coud also avoid some legal issues with the whole "who owns what from which parts" issues as well...
 
sure people know the basics to the superman origins. But it has only been seen on film once with the Donner film. We should have a new modern film origin told. Sure we dont need to bog the film down with origin right off the bat. We could go that way, or we could be told via flashbacks or what not. We shouldnt not have anything. Cause then whats the point of the reboot as i said before. They might as well just continue with donner/singer take and do more films there. But being a reboot we should see why things are different then the other times. But as i said if we dont get to see full on origin told. I at least want the film to be clark's first public save/start at the daily planet. Not a film with no origin and folks been around for a few yrs. Cause we lose out on characters, stories and other stuff.
 
We don't even need to see an origin at all. Not even in the credits. People ****ing know how it happens. If I see it in the credits I'll just roll my eyes and think, "Jesus, do they think we don't know what it is?"

I don't see why they can't brush over it in the credits and wasnt the No origin thing one of the main factors why some people didnt get SR?

I think it'd be nice to have something in the credits.
 
Well, that was part of it, yes. But it's got a lot more to do with execution. It starts with Superman having been gone to space for 5 years. An action oriented movie ussually would fill that time with something interesting some backstory or something relevant to the film's plot, but in Returns it amounts to "you wasted your f-king time in space, bad end". Allegedly the original plan was for Luthor to have fooled Superman into believing Krypton was there, though with what resources(what, with being in jail and all) I don't know.

BUt I digress. I do kinda feel starting with an already established Superman and Co. has it's own challenges. It's a different continuity and cast, and the sudden changes may be a bit jarring to the general audience. If they decided to have Supergirl cameo in(wishfull thinking, I know) the ga would be like"wher'd she come from? She wasn't in any of the other films?" I think the can pull it off, though.
 
well for me as i keep saying being we will be seeing a new take on superman we should have some origins told. Be it what ever way you want to go about it in the story telling. I still think it would be very foolish to totally not have anything of origin. If there is is no krypton, no smallville teen life, no go pre going to metropolis life. Then its silly to reboot/restart with no bearing on these events. And we lose out on stories and characters as i keep saying. This will be a new incarnation of events. So we should see why these events and characters are the way they are. But like others have stated even though if the reports are true with No origin. That doesnt mean throughout the story we couldnt seen/be told of things. Plus the film could easily start with clark/superman arrival to the city. Which i really hope that is the approach they will go.
 
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I feel some people still want the origin, but also want to support whatever direction the new movie is taking, so are spinning their opinion. Right now the rumor is no origin. So in order to be happy as a fan, you say why that will work... and hey it may still be a good film, but it's also alright to state you would rather see a modern take from scratch.

The destruction in both the visual sense and backstory (which may set up the rest of the film with Brainiac) would be brilliant to see in a modern film. Clark's first save, or first flight, would be interesting to see. Most of all, Clark's start at the DP. How he got the job, his first major story, and of course the first appearance of Superman.
 
But we've already seen it. I don't care seeing it done on a modern take. It's the same basic thing. We should be moving forward with the characterm, not moving back again.
 
the origin hasn't been on screen for over 30 years! to say people should just know it is insane. Some people act like they live in a world where everyone loves Superman. You act like everyone in the world watches all the Superman incarnations like we do but we are in the small minority. You can do an origin for the main audience and show different aspects of it or tweak it a little to help your story in order to keep the Superman fans happy...I think that will work out nicely...ala Batman Begins.
 
the origin hasn't been on screen for over 30 years! to say people should just know it is insane. Some people act like they live in a world where everyone loves Superman. You act like everyone in the world watches all the Superman incarnations like we do but we are in the small minority. You can do an origin for the main audience and show different aspects of it or tweak it a little to help your story in order to keep the Superman fans happy...I think that will work out nicely...ala Batman Begins.

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Arguing with this statement would be like arguing with logic in and of itself.
 
HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

"Dad, what's Kryptonite?"

"Speak sense, child!!!"
 
Yes people know the basics of the origin and we saw a g ood take of it in the donner film. But dropping a full origin ever to be told in a new film series would be silly. We would never see smallville stuff, never see characters like lana, pete, possible the kents, and we lost starting up storylines of alien stuff and all that. A new film series should have the chance to have its mark on the origin too. I said it before i dont want all film versions of superman to be forever just the donner take.
 
I don't mind if they don't show a new beginning from the start. A small montage and flashback is enough. You can always introduce Smallvile characters like Lana Lang later and get it over with by calling her a childhood friend.
 
yea i dont mind what ever way we could see origin stuff told in this new reboot series. I as i said just would think it would be foolish to not have any origin stuff told. Cause we lose out on things and it would be silly not to see how things came to be in this series. This film should have the chance like all other takes on superman to tell the full story of the characters.
 
What I'd do, have Superman established or just start the Movie with him getting to Metropolis, like the TV series did it, and when Brainiac comes to earth, then you delve into his origin.
 
I don't mind if they don't show a new beginning from the start. A small montage and flashback is enough. You can always introduce Smallvile characters like Lana Lang later and get it over with by calling her a childhood friend.

Exactly, having something even small would be good. I like the idea that the film starts with his first day in Metropolis that would work for me, they could have the opening credits with the rocket landing on earth etc or even deal with how he got to earth later.
 
nat yea i would be fine with that, so we are at least seeing the start of clark's hero time in the city, and get some details told throughout the film. I as i said just would hate to see nothing, and have the film were superman has been around for ages. Cause really like i pointed out a few times what would be the point of this reboot if he has been around for ages.
 
Not around for ages, but it could probably be his first week. He'd be already flying around and saving people, then you see on the first page of a newspaper "More sightings of the Man of Steel."
 
honestly........ Not many people know the origins. It's been more than 30 years we seen Superman origins done properly on the big screen?? Smallville doesn't count, it's TV, plus, who watches Smallville except for possible Superman fans and girls who like Tom Welling.....

It's very important for them to show the origins, because if we are being introduced to a new Superman, we have to see how he becomes Superman and why....... this is Superman Returns all over again???? Can't anybody see that??
 

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