OK LET ME GET THIS OFF MY MIND.
Don't you see you are all being blinded by what Fox excutives are stating about X-Men movies.
They are right, it is costly to make such films but its those sort of films that makes Fox alot of money, despite the massive payout they still get more money from x-men movies than they do with new unknown movies.
Ok this is why i know there will be an X-Men 4... Give it 5 years, Wolverine will be made but i doubt magneto will unless its given more hype. After Wolverine the studio will wonder the possibitly of a Wolverine 2 Or probably call it W2 knowing them. Or other spin offs from the marvel universe. They will fail in finding one because well you really only have Wolverine that would work.
So what do you do? You go back to X-Men. why because it was totally left open, with no real leads to any spin offs other than Wolverine. Firstly X-Men 3 lost alot of characters and not all have to return for a sequel.
So what if they made x-men 4 is there 16 characters that need to return... NO! at most only 7 characters need to return. Magneto is cured although signs of him returning his powers was left open. But thats it his rain as villian is over, there is no more need for him to be in the movie any more. As for Mystique, or any of the botherhood members. So thats at least 3 from the 16 characters leaving 13. X-Men wise, Xavier, Gone, Jean, Gone, Cyclops, Gone personnely you dont need to bring back two of them or all three for that matter. Overall, Angel made about the same impact Nightcrawler did so i doubt he will be in x-men 4 if made.
So who would return... Wolverine, Storm, Beast as defecto leaders of the school now Xavier has gone. Iceman, Rogue, Colossus and Kitty are the only characters with a need to return. So thats seven
If you were to add new characters we could limit the villians for the next one two 3. Gambit, Sinister and Vertigo for example. Sinister becomes defacto villian like magneto does, Vertigo a very much different mystique type. And Gambit who plays for both sides.
My point being thats only 10 people. not 16.
If X-Men 4 did introduce the characters of Gambit or Sinister or even the Hellfire club we would get better spin offs.
Gambit has the potential to be a spin off but you need to use him in a movie to do so first. Hence why they need to make x-men 4. The Hellfire play alot to Emma Frost. the problem with the idea of an Emma Frost and the New Mutants movie is too much like x-men only slightly younger. and more a teen flick. If you had a background bases in x-men movies you would have a better response from an New Mutants movie.
So why is a spin off a failure?
Well its not so much a failure as to what currently was set by the previous films. They over used Wolverine and people want more. But what other character really stood out above him. Fox seems to think Magneto i tend to differ. A need for a 4th could of been avoided if Fox let Singer have free will over how and the story would be written and when it could be made. I dont blame ratner, i just feel he was under a leash, he did a good job with what he had to deal with but i feel like singer he could of made it something more if they took of the rains.
The thing is give them 5 years let them make wolverine and see what response it will get.
The only problem with Wolverine if they make a sequel, would the characters return? I mean i heard Juggernaut may reappear so Sabertooth. Plus what if they team Wolverine up with lets say Gambit or Guido or other characters from the marvel universe.
Its not going to work past the first wolverine movie but a sequel would cripple it.
And then they will go back to X-MEN 4 idea.
so what do you think