The Dark Knight Nolan Describes TDK Plot as 'Grim.'

[Keyser Sushi]

I think, as others have said here, that Nolan will use a lot of different influences from the entire back-catalogue of Batman stories. I mean just look at Begins: He did some Year One, some Long Halloween, he also did some oldschool Kane/Finger stuff... he used Ra's al Ghul, who is a 1970's Denny O'Neill creation... it had a little of everything.

What we know about the influences for "The Dark Knight," we've heard of Joker's first two appearances, plus some Killing Joke, and it's a good bet they'll take further cues from The Long Halloween and Year One, as well.

And who knows what else? So, yes... again, a little of everything.

Oh, and on topic -- Grim? Hell yeah!!!

 

[Boom]

Everything makes sense now.

Don't you all find it odd that Nolan happened to use the word "grim" to describe the movie, when Heath Ledger was in a movie called The Brothers GRIMM?? Do you know what this means?

Matt Damon is Harvey Dent.

 

[Silver Souper]

he'd be good if so. damon's got RANGE!

 

[Heretic]

"grim" isnt a good word?

Would you prefer bat-nipple-tastic?
Or maybe Schumacher-ific?

 

[Crooklyn]

So... that said... it's possible TDK will be in line with the 80's era of Batman. Which is damned good, as far as I'm concerned, considering the 80's brought us Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, and The Killing Joke, aswell as the first journeying into Bruce's psychosis.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if TDK was intentionally darker, and Batman was a little meaner in this one. That combined with the characterisations of The Joker by both Alan Moore and Frank Miller of that era is getting me pumped for this, provided my theory is true.

I think you're definitely onto something.

TDK and it's sequel (hopefully) are definitely my most hotly anticipated films. I've been yearning for that scary, bad-ass interpretation started by Miller. We got a hint of it during that interrogation scene (no doubt one of the only times I was actually caught off-guard, never seen Batman like that before on-screen). If Nolan goes further with this, I'll be in heaven.

One of my few nitpicks on BB is that Bale didn't really show off that intense glare he has (check AP and Equilibrium) which I thought rivaled or even surpassed Keaton's. With this franchise going to a darker state, hopefully this'll be showcased. It's a great opportunity to really let the villains loose and see how Bruce handles that emotionally.

 

[chintai80]

Everything makes sense now.

Don't you all find it odd that Nolan happened to use the word "grim" to describe the movie, when Heath Ledger was in a movie called The Brothers GRIMM?? Do you know what this means?

Matt Damon is Harvey Dent.

Damon as Dent?

Yeah, I could see that. He'll be good guy/bad guy...Departed stylez.

Dicaprio's character in that movie even referred to him as a "Two-faced *bleep*"!

 

[Stringer]

Everything makes sense now.

Don't you all find it odd that Nolan happened to use the word "grim" to describe the movie, when Heath Ledger was in a movie called The Brothers GRIMM?? Do you know what this means?

Matt Damon is Harvey Dent.

Your detective skills are certainly something to admire

 

[Boom]

It's a gift .

 

[StorminNorman]

Everything makes sense now.

Don't you all find it odd that Nolan happened to use the word "grim" to describe the movie, when Heath Ledger was in a movie called The Brothers GRIMM?? Do you know what this means?

Matt Damon is Harvey Dent.

*Waits for this to make BOF* t:

 

[GeoffTheArtist]

"Grim"? "Grim" you say? I'll take an order a "Grim" with a side of "Fierce" and I'll take a glass of lemondade to top it off.

 

[Eros]

i guess buy Grim he means Batman will kill another villian like how he killed Razz in Batman Begins.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Give us something we can work with Nolan.

 

[WeaponXProject]

I hope he doesn't mean Brothers Grimm and cast Matt Damon as Harvey....well it wouldn't be that bad. And I apologize if anyone else already stated this. Actually I flat out apologize for making the comment at all.

 

[CConn]

Everything makes sense now.

Don't you all find it odd that Nolan happened to use the word "grim" to describe the movie, when Heath Ledger was in a movie called The Brothers GRIMM?? Do you know what this means?

Matt Damon is Harvey Dent.

D

I would love for that to happen.

 

[WeaponXProject]

I thought people were worried about Batman being overshadowed by his castmates this time....Damon is so talented he could do this. In all...I like Damon as a choice.

 

[Nepenthes]

Nolan is not trying to fit his movies into any era. Why would he do that? He's doing his own thing.

Brothers Grimm, Damon? Um yeah sure. You guys been sniffin glue.

 

[cryptic name]

i guess buy Grim he means Batman will kill another villian like how he killed Razz in Batman Begins.

i'm pretty sure if anything killed r'as it was the impact from the train crash or the explosion. both of which were the results of his own mechinations.

 

[StorminNorman]

i guess buy Grim he means Batman will kill another villian like how he killed Razz in Batman Begins.

Since when was Suicide made into Homicide?

 

[Nepenthes]

Even after reading some very reasonable comments about the train wreck scene I still think it was wrong. If the audince had seen that Batman respects life to the point where he will actually save an enemy terrorist, they would have gone 'wow...he's got got some crazy firm morals there...I woulda let that sucka burn' and they would've come away knowing that much more about Batman.

I do get that in film it's better if the bad guy dies. But in this case it seems like a core apsect of Batman was compromised in translating to the medium.

Especially when you consider that they could've shown Batman trying to save Ra's and then failing. That would've been a much stronger ending.

 

[The Shredder]

Grim.

Vague, but ok.

Thanks, Nolan.

 

[CConn]

Nolan is not trying to fit his movies into any era. Why would he do that? He's doing his own thing.

No one said he was. MB barely commented how - seemingly by coincidence - so far all of the movies have corrosponded to the different eras of Batman, and TDK - being "Grim" like Batman became in the '80s might continue that coincidence.

Brothers Grimm, Damon? Um yeah sure. You guys been sniffin glue.

They were joking.

...Boom, at least.

 

[Nepenthes]

No one said he was. MB barely commented how - seemingly by coincidence - so far all of the movies have corrosponded to the different eras of Batman

Seems I misread then. I apologise to MB. Its just that with all the wacky stuff you read here it's easy to assume that ALL the posters are glue sniffers, and then I begin to infer false warped meanings into their ramblings. I should be more non-judgemental and open-minded. Actually only about 50% of the people on this board are glue sniffers.

They were joking.

...Boom, at least.

See what I mean? Crazy!

 

[Darknightnomis]

Everything makes sense now.

Don't you all find it odd that Nolan happened to use the word "grim" to describe the movie, when Heath Ledger was in a movie called The Brothers GRIMM?? Do you know what this means?

Matt Damon is Harvey Dent.

Now THAT would be really grim.

 

[Eros]

Since when was Suicide made into Homicide?

Dude Batman let him die, He says "I can't kill you, but i won't save you." Which is a thin way to say, im gonna leave you on this train to die. I always though Batman didn't play those games with his enemies, he would stop them and make sure they live to pay for their crimes. Razz had no way of escaping that train ,and less he had a glider like batman did . Bruce new if he left Razz on that train, he would be condmeing him to a death. If this were any other verisons of Batman, [save for probbaly Burtons] Batman would beat up Razz, and then drag him off the train to put his ass in Jail forever.

 

[The Sage]

The plot is 'Grim'. Well it certainly wasn't going to be bright, LOL.