The Dark Knight Rises Nolan not coming back?

Not for me it isn't. It's about finishing what you begin. TDK was CLEARLY the middle part to Batman's story in this universe IMO. His story isn't done yet, not by a long shot.
It might not be finished for some, but perhaps for Nolan it is.
There is still a great story to tell I think, with Batman on the run with maybe higher organizations being brought in to aid with the hunt, Gordon torn between duty and loyalty to Batman, the truth about Dent, Batman relapsing into feelings of guilt after what happened in TDK, the aftermath of the rise of Joker. That's all just off the top of my head and I think those elements would make for a great, great movie. Nolan surely knows this too.

One could easily argue unlike something like Star Wars or LOTR or Matrix, films which have essential third stories in order to complete each saga, this Batman series doesn't need a third installment, each film is it's own saga. You could easily end the series here and now and the series wouldn't suffer from it.
 
Well, it could be worse. It could be Spider-Man 3 in 3D.... WITH the glasses.

My point is that I'm always pretty excited about upocoming good movies, and I'm as excited about a non-batman Nolan film like Inception, as for the prospect of a third Batman movie. I don't believe they're exclusive. And I don't worry about the possibility of a flop because I can't fathom what the fear is all about. Raimi it's a great filmmaker, but Nolan is head and shoulders above him in almost every possible way, at least whe it comes to my own personal tastes. So I can't think of a third Nolan Bat-film as less than terrific. I'm confident he can't miss it.

But what if he'd rather do something else? I'm at least appreciative enough of the Batman movies he did leave us with not to feel that there's unfinished business or what have you. It'd be disappointing if there wasn't another Nolan Batman movie for those who want another one, but I don't think it'd be something to hold against him, as some seem to indicate.
 
It might not be finished for some, but perhaps for Nolan it is.

One could easily argue unlike something like Star Wars or LOTR or Matrix, films which have essential third stories in order to complete each saga, this Batman series doesn't need a third installment, each film is it's own saga. You could easily end the series here and now and the series wouldn't suffer from it.

Yea the series wouldn't suffer from it. But I still think there needs to be some closure. TDK wasn't left at a cliffhanger in the traditional sense, but surely there is the final piece of the story to tell.
 
I'm willing to bet that if he does do another one Nolan will also leave that open-ended.
 
Na I don't think so.

Then end of the trilogy should have Batman on a rooftop with the newly restored Bat signal blazing in the night sky. Showing that no matter what, Batman will be there to take care of his city. Echoing the scene in Batman Begins.

Or maybe the end of the trilogy could be Bruce at his parents graves with the immortal lines "I made a promise to my parents..."

That would end these films perfectly I think. And let everyone know that Batman is still there, watching over Gotham.
 
Or maybe the end of the trilogy could be Bruce at his parents graves with the immortal lines "I made a promise to my parents..."
but he didnt (in the nolanverse at least).

So anyway, did Nolan drop out of the batman franchise or what? When i saw this thread i scared to death that he might have...
 
Yeah. Nowhere in that article does Nolan say he's returning. Hell, there's not even a quote from him.

All it says is more of what we've heard, speculation from "reliable outside sources" that Nolan is working on it. Which as we all learned with The Dark Knight those "inside sources" have a tendency of being completely off of the mark *cough* Lachy Hulme *uncough*

If you can find a direct quote from Nolan where he says he's certain he's coming back and writing a new script, then I'll change the thread title to "NOLAN RETURNS!"

As for Lachy Hulme... sometimes Jett is on the mark, and sometimes he runs with info that's sketchy at best. Just the way it goes when you have that much info coming at once.

Regardless, I believe if you look hard enough, you'll find that Christopher Nolan has been working on the script for some time now. http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/954/954618p1.html

Read into that whatever you want, but Chris is working on the first draft, and then Jonah is taking over. THAT's what's happening. Funny, because thats exactly what happened with TDK.

He's coming back. If you've learned anything from the development of the past two films...no news is good news and it's always been intended for it to be that way. Its a hell of a lot more exciting, and I don't think you guys would have it any other way. While I certainly wouldn't change your thread title yet, there's no need for anyone to worry.
 
I still don't get comic fans obsession with trilogies. They didn't only write 3 Batman comics, it's an ongoing story you know. They can do as many or as little as they wish. I think people frame things in this Star Wars mold for some reason. Why not 5 Nolan/Batman films? Or why not just the 2? Besides, till there's solid news from Nolan this is all conjecture.
 
I still don't get comic fans obsession with trilogies. They didn't only write 3 Batman comics, it's an ongoing story you know. They can do as many or as little as they wish. I think people frame things in this Star Wars mold for some reason. Why not 5 Nolan/Batman films? Or why not just the 2? Besides, till there's solid news from Nolan this is all conjecture.

I blame George Lucas and Star Wars for the trilogy obsession. Like you said, Batman's story is never ending, as it should be, you could make one film, or 50, there is no and never will be a full stop for this character.
 
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Not for me it isn't. It's about finishing what you begin. TDK was CLEARLY the middle part to Batman's story in this universe IMO. His story isn't done yet, not by a long shot.

There is still a great story to tell I think, with Batman on the run with maybe higher organizations being brought in to aid with the hunt, Gordon torn between duty and loyalty to Batman, the truth about Dent, Batman relapsing into feelings of guilt after what happened in TDK, the aftermath of the rise of Joker. That's all just off the top of my head and I think those elements would make for a great, great movie. Nolan surely knows this too.

Amen to all this, especially the first paragraph. I don't think it would be fair to the next director for him to have to pick up in the middle of the story.

Nolan's series doesn't have to be a trilogy anyway. If it takes four or five movies to tell the full story that would be cool with me too. I would've even tolerated him leaving after two if TDK hadn't ended with what amounts to a cliffhanger. Surely Nolan can summon enough enthusiasm to at lest finish the story he began, if no top the previous movie.
 
I blame George Lucas and Star Wars for the trilogy obsession. Like you said, Batman's story is never ending, as it should be, you could make one film, or 50, there is no and never will be a full atop for this character.

It's not about requiring a full stop for Batman. The Burton movies were all self-contained so it was easy for Schumaker to pick up the reins and go in his own direction. Nolan's created some overarching story that obviously isn't complete yet.
 
I blame George Lucas and Star Wars for the trilogy obsession. Like you said, Batman's story is never ending, as it should be, you could make one film, or 50, there is no and never will be a full atop for this character.
True, but in this case the arc isn't over. TDK's ending effectively closes that particular chapter. But in the overall scheme of Batman's narrative, we're at a half-crescent right now.
 
True, but in this case the arc isn't over. TDK's ending effectively closes that particular chapter. But in the overall scheme of Batman's narrative, we're at a half-crescent right now.

I'd argue that there is no real arc in this series, films one and two work independently of each other. And who to say Nolan would even close any doors in film three?
 
I'd argue that there is no real arc in this series, films one and two work independently of each other. And who to say Nolan would even close any doors in film three?

It's not a matter of him closing doors in a possible third film kind of like saying, "Ok, whoever wants to do their own version next can go ahead, mines all finished up and done with".

The arc isn't done in regards to Batman being on the run and in a big way. In BB, Gordon told Batman that Loeb set up a task force to take him down. In TDK though, Batman took the blame as a murderer so now every individual in law enforcement in Gotham will be on his ass, not just a select group that Loeb had picked.

He needs some sort of redemption. Not necessarily the kind where everyone gains his trust, but one where the majority realize he's doing good for Gotham and he'll always be there whether they like it or not. Having that kind of redemption doesn't mean Nolan literally has to put a full on ending to the third film. He can still leave it open for Batman to fight the good fight, but at least redeem him in the eyes of the police as well as the rest of Gothams citizens.
 
I'd argue that there is no real arc in this series, films one and two work independently of each other. And who to say Nolan would even close any doors in film three?

There's a fairly clear arc for the character of Batman.

BB is about Bruce discovering his calling to protect the innocent and keep everyone from the pain he suffered. It goes through him learning all the tools, and what he needs to know, to form Batman. It then goes into him becoming Batman, and his struggles to finally establish Batman in Gotham.

TDK is about Bruce Wayne, already established as Batman, slowly realizing that fixing Gotham, and being Batman, is not going to be a short term thing. It's also about him fully realizing the challenges being Batman presents him with, and what kind of men he's going to have to fight while being Batman. It's also about him realizing that he has to be prepared to do almost anything to protect Gotham as Batman, even condemn himself in the public's eyes.

On a more basic trend, it's following the well used theme of

Young man becomes hero, struggles, learns, and grows and finally establishes himself as hero.

Established hero is discontent with reality of what he is and what he may have to stay, and with all he may have to give up to be a hero, as well as the struggles of a dual life.

Going with this theme, the next logical step (and the step that is usually done in an arc like this) would be the hero coming fully to terms with all he has to give up, completely accepting his role, and settling into a normal balance between his two identities.
 
I don't see what's going on now as an ark, they were both self contained stories on their own. Nolan can do as many or as little as he wishes, all these arguments for 3 hold no weight. Yes the 3 act play is mirrored in movies and in many ways thus far mirrored in the series, that's still no proof that it will end for Nolan and company at 3.

I'm a big fan of the Bond novels, Fleming wrote 14, Amis wrote 1, Gardner wrote 14, Benson wrote 6, Higson wrote 5, Faulks wrote 1. Yes the movies keep coming, and just the same, batman has been around and through many creative teams, there's no need to talk about closing trilogies when what's going on right now is good and profitable.
 
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/01/30/batman-3-script-in-the-works/

As I said, he's probably already done by now, although there are multiple drafts to every script, so it's most definitely not final, but he's apparently started, nonetheless.

I know the article, I make it a point to read all Batman related news.

Nowhere in that page does it say the script has been writen or he's even started, you're just choosing to read it that way. Nolan and his people might just be "talking" right now.
 
according to a post over at iesb.com, “an extremely reliable source” informs them that the project is already in the process of being written by nolan, jonathan nolan and david goyer.

O Rly?
 
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Wow, and you call me arrogant. You really are impossible. :rolleyes:

Right, because everyone knows that EVERYTHING that's said on the net is a fact. :whatever:

How is what I said in any way arrogant? I'm sorry if I'm not going run around and tell the word that the script for Batman 3 is done just becuase IESB said so. Get a clue dude.
 
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I have a clue, but apparently I have to run it by you first, just to make sure I'm allowed to keep it. ;)
 
I don't, but I find the internet to be a tad more trustworthy than some manic obsessive internet parole officer.
 

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