The Dark Knight Rises Nolan not coming back?

[raybia]

I'm much more interested in Nolan's work outside of the Batman franchise at this point. He's already done a very good job with my five favorite characters in the mythos (Batman, Joker, Gordon, Two-Face, and Alfred) so there's nothing wrong with going out on top. I'd rather not have a Nolan-directed Batman 3 than have one that turns out like Raimi's Spider-Man 3.

I agree.

 

[RichardMoore]

If Nolan doesn't come back, there is still going to be a "Batman 3". That's what worries me. I don't want a "Last Stand" when we've got two great Batman films. My fondest hope is that Nolan breaks the Trilogy Curse.

 

[Victarion]

Well what about his feelings of the loss of Dent and Rachel? I think it could be interesting to explore Bruce's feelings of guilt again. Perhaps what happened in TDK makes him relapse into the feelings of guilt for his parents death? He has to battle those inner demons again, whilst dealing with being hunted by law enforcement organizations and other villains.

Also, we could see Batman grow more brutal as he fights various thugs too. That would be a nice escalation from his "burn down the forest" plan with the massive sonar device at the end of TDK.

I seem to recall it being mentioned either here or in the Inception thread that the Warners agreed to finance Inception as long as he was on board for the third Batman movie.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I heard that too. Dunno if it's true though.

And yea I'd imagine that after the events of TDK, Bruce feels guilty again, and is tormented by his inner demons, becoming more rage filled and brutal. Perhaps his guilt could be personified in visions? Two Face?

 

[Victarion]

That's not a bad idea, Ace. If you've got more ideas, the "Where does the story go from here" thread would be a good place to take our discussion.

Anyway, IF Nolan doesn't return and a 3rd is made, it can always be looked at as a tack-on. TDK didn't have as big a cliffhanger as BB and is more of a stand-alone movie than BB.

 

[jmc]

I've been reading at various places that there's an Iron Man storyline out there where he does just that, collapses under the pressure and goes into a drunken slump.

I'm hoping we get something along those lines in an Iron Man film as Stark definitley seems like a character that would go through something like that, moreso than Wayne

Stark did fall off the wagon a few years ago but something tells me that may be a bit to heavy for Marvel given the types of films the are making.

 

[knockout]

If Nolan is not coming back another director can make it work.
I dont think TDK was all that. Begins was still superior in many ways.

 

[Mister H.]

If Nolan is not coming back another director can make it work.
I dont think TDK was all that. Begins was still superior in many ways.

Agreed.

 

[Infinity9999x]

If Nolan is not coming back another director can make it work.
I dont think TDK was all that. Begins was still superior in many ways.

Except writing. And action. But otherwise, yeah.

 

[terry78]

JJ Abrams if he decides to take an indefinite leave.

 

[ChickenScratch]

I would prefer Michael Mann over JJ (shake the camera) any day of the week.

 

[Lightning54SC]

If Nolan is not coming back another director can make it work.
I dont think TDK was all that. Begins was still superior in many ways.

i totally feel the same way, i really didnt care for TDK

 

[griffolyon12]

Fincher wouldn't be my first choice to 'take up the reins' ...I'd rather go with the guy who did Children of Men....who also worked with Caine. t: As well as Clive *cough*blackmask*cough* Owen.

Cuaron would be a great choice once Nolan leaves the franchise. Cuaron's take I feel would almost be of the complete opposite of Nolan's with a slightly more stylized twinge, which could help make the post-Nolan bat-films more successful by not trying to copy Nolan's realistic style. Plus, Cuaron has already directed one well-received film for WB in another big blockbuster franchise, so they have a history and know he could handle the budget and logistics of making these big event pictures.

 

[Alex Logan]

If Nolan is not coming back another director can make it work. I dont think TDK was all that. Begins was still superior in many ways.

Even though both films are related I don't think there's really a need to compare them. Each film is near perfect and you're free to think whatever you want, but I wouldn't say Begins is superior.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Even though both films are related I don't think there's really a need to compare them. Each film is near perfect and you're free to think whatever you want, but I wouldn't say Begins is superior.

The third act is too sub-par. TDK's third act was weaker than the rest of the movie as well, but that's only because they crammed too much into it, whereas with BB the third act suffered from some shoddy writing and contrived plot points.

 

[Alex Logan]

The third act is too sub-par. TDK's third act was weaker than the rest of the movie as well, but that's only because they crammed too much into it, whereas with BB the third act suffered from some shoddy writing and contrived plot points.

I couldn't disagree more. The third act of the TDK was almost perfect.

 

[Eric Brooks]

I like'ed both

 

[Mister H.]

I think the third acts for both films are a bit weak, but I like the other two-thirds of BB better than the other two-thirds of TDK. TDK is still great, BB just speaks to me on a more visceral level, if that makes sense.

 

[El Payaso]

I couldn't disagree more. The third act of the TDK was almost perfect.

Oh, I agree. TDK couldn't but keep getting better and better. The way the Joker ended or Two-Face was by far perfect, specially comparing those to the lame Scarecrow's last scene.

 

[Alex Logan]

Oh, I agree. TDK couldn't but keep getting better and better. The way the Joker ended or Two-Face was by far perfect, specially comparing those to the lame Scarecrow's last scene.

Yeah, Rachel takes him out with a taser gun? Please...

 

[griffolyon12]

I like'ed both

Agreed. They're both terrific films, so why does it matter whether one is better than the other. They're both prime examples of super filmmaking.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I couldn't disagree more. The third act of the TDK was almost perfect.

The only detractor for me was ultimately the wasting of Two-Face. His "death" just felt...well....like a waste. Two-Face as a character had monumental amounts of potential that could have been explored, and Nolan could have made him amazing, had he wanted to.

I understand what Nolan was trying to do, and to an extent I think it worked, but overall I thought it was a bad decision. Now, I'm not saying Two-Face was done poorly. He wasn't, he was done very well in fact, if you only want to portray him as a purely revenge driven character. The problem is, Two-Face is so much more, and can be so much more interesting than that.

However, everything right up to the capture of the Joker I thought was completely perfect.

 

[regwec]

I agree. Nolan underplayed Two Face in order for him to evolve naturally from TDK's narrative, and to lead it to some sort of thematic conclusion. But there was a whole lot of the character still left to cover, and it was a great shame that Nolan decided to kill him- not that the decision is irreversible.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Which is what I love about what Nolan's doing. He's not treating every villain like they're major, integral part of the storyline just to please fans. He's treating it like it's a brand new, original story with his own characters, and doing what he wants with them. I think it works out much more naturally that way.

 

[regwec]

I think it's fine, as long as he doesn't eliminate any possibility of developing the characters further. By killing them, for instance.