I don't know if this counts as "Nolanized" but a logical progression of villains would be good. Its traditional for a superhero series to start off with the hero's main enemy. (Batman 89 started with Joker, Spider-Man started with the Green Goblin.) While that may be what people want to see, it means that the series may get progressively weaker as the villains become less of a threat.
I like what Brian Singer did with X-Men. Just because Magneto was defeated at the end of the first film, doesn't mean he has to go away. We saw how Magneto was so dangerous to the X-Men, because he was a continual threat to them through the series. That was my problem with the original Batman series: it was too episodic. In Batman Returns, there should have been some kind of aftermath of the Joker's attack. There was no sense of continuation. BR might as well have been a reboot.
yeah i fear this as well...of course i would love a further look into batman and him stuggling between wayne and being the bat...and the villian playing a great role but the main focus on batman again...it doesnt have to be more epic than the dark knight...it just has to be an amazing ending to the trilogy imoI agree. As much as I liked BR, it felt to me that Penguin and Catwoman weren't a greater threat than Joker was.
And that's what I fear about Nolan's Joker-less third Batman.
yeah i fear this as well...of course i would love a further look into batman and him stuggling between wayne and being the bat...and the villian playing a great role but the main focus on batman again...it doesnt have to be more epic than the dark knight...it just has to be an amazing ending to the trilogy imo
and i also agree hobgoblin about a villian remaining a threat movie by movie...and i believe doc ock would be perfect for that
Do NOT make this new franchise BATMAN like. That's why the third on failed to fans.
me tooOck would be a good choice but I'm more of a Goblin fan.![]()
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haha the third one is what he meant i suppose.......![]()
me too
actually you could use both and have this trilogy be the two most threatening coming back...ock be the first villian...have him get arrested and osborn becomes the goblin at the end of the first...have peter start his relationship with gwen in the second...but has mj playfully flirting with him...and have to take on gobby...of course have the fate of gwen occur which leads to gg's death as well...and you could even have ock come back in the 3rd one...i mean you could go anywhere with the story...just rambling
haha the third one is what he meant i suppose![]()
I hate how some people think "dark" will make a movie good. This reboot should be fun and gritty at the same time.
After being bitten by a genetically altered spider, Peter breaks into Oscorp & takes a very advanced battle suit that he repaints as his Spider-Man costume. Instead of webs this Spider-Man swings around with self retracting grappling hooks that are built into the suit.
OrI don't think Nolan = dark. It's more like Nolan = serious.
Not sure I would call it Nolanizing, but in the spirit of the thread:
- More realism. For example, Peter basically has his arms ripped out of their sockets trying to stop a runaway train in SM2 and we see zero after effects.
- Peter battles superpowered villains, blow for blow, and we do not see any bruising/cuts/etc. on his face
- Less Cheeze. Take out scenes that are basically childish. For example "Film's Exxxxxtra" at such a key point as the final battle in SM3.
- Less soap-operish. The ALL about ONE girl BS needs to go. And Peter and MJ have a co-dependent relationship as described by Raimi, that ANYONE would tell them their NO GOOD for each other.. PERIOD.
- Less sympathetic villains - not realistic and takes away from the storylines/impact of the villain that should be sympathetic (Lizard)
- Do Not connect EVERY villain to Peter. Again, takes away from the storylines/villains that SHOULD be connected to Peter.
- Tell Spider-Man's greatest Arc - The Night Gwen Stacy Died.
- Do not corrupt great storylines from Spider-Man history by MAKING IT (mostly) ALL ABOUT ONE GIRL (Spidey No More. EVERYTHING does NOT need to center around MJ, and SHOULD NOT.
- Serious villains/costumes. Some things, like the Goblin from ASM would not move from the comic to the screen well, but.. what we got was a joke. And then, when they got a chance to redeem with the Goblin 2 (Harry), we got Surfer Doood. I can see TPTB saying.. Dood.. a skateboard that flies.. COWABUNNGA DOOOD.. Major Toy sales to Da Kiddos.
- Serious Writing - "We'll Meet AGAIN Spider-Man"... "Deliver.. us from.. EVILLLLLLLLL" "and any image of Uncle Ben in Speedos.. Sheesh:
- Serious motivations for a villain
- Gothic/Dark/Costume for the GOBLIN (Yes, basically listed twice BUT Damn Did I want that..)
- Funny lines via smart writing.. Not slapstick humor or slapstick cameos. Basically, make up your mind your doing a serious take on Spdier-Man and NOT a tongue in cheek one. No Dancing/Stuttin Emo Parker. Make Parker actually Dark when the symbiote infests him.
- No Cutsey Kids (related to the Damn Director or Producer or Staff or WHOEVER).. to deliver eye rolling/cringe worthy Lines.. ESPECIALLY at critical times of the film
- NO FRICKIN announcers.. telecasting final battles.. "This Could be the End for Spider-Man"... SHEESSSHHH
- Develop the rich supporting cast that Spider-Man has, as opposed to creating new characters, or changing the existing characters completely
- Stay true to characrters..
and ON.. And On... And On.....
How was the third movie Batman like?Do NOT make this new franchise BATMAN like. That's why the third on failed to fans.
Why do comic book films have to be Nolanized? Why not Spidermanized. Thats how it should be done.
How about we Stan Lee-anize the universe instead