Legend of Zelda Offical The Legend of Zelda Thread - Part 1

[DarthSkywalker]

What if Link's more androgynous appearance in the trailer is deliberate.

Perhaps a cool idea for the game would be that you can customize the character down to the gender.

Despite a few personality traits Link isn't really a character, he's an avatar. His name isn't really Link it's whatever you as a player choose to call him. Maybe in an attempt to make this new world more interactive you make Link however you want him (or her) to be.

I'm probably way off as it could potentially remove any romantic tension between Link and Zelda but it strikes me there's never been all that much of that in the games themselves so would it be a big deal?

It has become more and more of thing in the main series. Skyward Sword played it up hard.

Also, I think it was telling that the series producer thought the whole idea of the lead not being Link quite humorous.

UPDATE 12pm: Zelda series producer Eiji Aonuma has now cleared up any doubt about the identity of the protagonist, insisting the trailer does show Link.

"It's a rumour," he told MMGN. "Actually that comment I made jokingly. It's not that I said that it wasn't Link. It's that I never said that it was Link. It's not really the same thing, but I can understand how it could be taken that way.

"It seems like it has kind of taken off where people are saying 'oh it's a female character' and it just kind of grew. But my intent in saying that was humour. You know, you have to show Link when you create a trailer for a Zelda announcement."

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-may-star-zelda-rather-than-link-9531059.html

As he said, you have to show Link when you announce Zelda. Why? Because it is his series. The series producer said it himself.

 

[Thundercrack85]

It doesn't. The amount of male to female gamers establishes that as extremely unlikely.

The amount?

 

[Klank]

And the issue is ignoring that the Legend of Zelda is Link's series. Once again, Skyward Sword tells us this.

Well Skyward Sword is the only Zelda game I haven't bothered completing. (Not because it's bad or anything but I was too busy and found when time freed up I couldn't get back in into it) so I can't speak with certainty but is there anything that game that suggests the hero is always male?

Also I think you're placing a lot on Skyward Sword. A Link To The Past described the Imprisoning War that Ocarina of Time ended up portraying very differently. It also plainly stated the seal to the Dark World was closed by seven wise men but then in the next game the sages were mixed male and female.

If Nintendo feel there are on to a good idea they aren't going to not pursue it because it contradicts the previous game.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Well Skyward Sword is the only Zelda game I haven't bothered completing. (Not because it's bad or anything but I was too busy and found when time freed up I couldn't get back in into it) so I can't speak with certainty but is there anything that game that suggests the hero is always male?

Also I think you're placing a lot on Skyward Sword. A Link To The Past described the Imprisoning War that Ocarina of Time ended up portraying very differently. It also plainly stated the seal to the Dark World was closed by seven wise men but then in the next game the sages were mixed male and female.

If Nintendo feel there are on to a good idea they aren't going to not pursue it because it contradicts the previous game.

I have never once said the hero needs to be male. What I am saying is the hero needs to Link, male or female. Not Zelda.

And the is a reason to place a lot of Skyward Sword. It is the first tale told with a series arc truly in mind. The history of Hyrule was written along side it. Also, it fits the entire series as we have seen it.

The amount?

Far more male gamers.

 

[Mad Ones]

How you play the Legend of Zelda has evolved over the years. The characters haven't changed. Link is the hero, Zelda the princess, and Ganon is darkness.

Well The Legend of Zelda is based on Legend. If you have seen the movie, you'd understand.

Also, since when did getting captured equal incapable? Are James Bond, Indiana Jones, or Han Solo incapable?

And the issue is ignoring that the Legend of Zelda is Link's series. Once again, Skyward Sword tells us this.

Zelda has changed drastically. She's been a pirate, a ghost, a ninja, etc! Link can still have the spirit of the hero and Zelda can still be a princess. Except for once you can play as the princess. You don't want the exact same story every time do you?

Zelda never saves herself. She's dependent on Link, and isn't the protagonist.

Once again, Link can still be a hero with the mastersword and all that jazz, but we can play as Zelda instead as she goes on her own quest.

Wouldn't surprise me if the next game contradicts SS anyway.

I agree with Klank that Nintendo might be moving towards more customization. And the love interest is pretty much non-existent except for in SS.

 

[zenith16]

Hey every one. Ok here's what I have to say on the matter this thin has be of much heated debated on the web for the longest while especially where a lady called Anita Sarkeesian ( I'll fix the spelling after words) is mentioned and it starts wild fires of flame wars on both side about the princess's of both Mario and zelda games are still damsels in distress.

which I stay away from when that starts. for many reasons.

So I'll say this I think right now this is a step in right direction. there can be new types of game play with this and you have zelda fight side by side with Link in a ton of new stories of scenario's that will be fresh and new. and I really don't want to see people get nasty with other on the web any more, On if zelda should be a damsel or a hero. We've seen her be a damsel in the games.

But with tv animated shows like the old zelda TAS and the Captain N TAS she was shown stand up as a partner to link that held her own.

And maybe that latter part should be shown more in the games to have more variety (we won't weird flame wars where that woman I mention up top is brought up alot ) and Besides when to animated series did that with with princess Zelda no one batted an eye and there were no arguments.

well the web was as overly prevalent as is today but it was there when some one would bring back any of those shows on their tv networks. all in all this can be a good thing. it'll allow those that want to play as a female character to be happy and we can still have and play as link if we so wish and it shouldn't be anything more then it mean more fun things to have happen that haven't been done in the games that they allowed the animated series to have explored.

And as I said it's better the seeing those unnecessary flame wars over the issue. why can't we have them both be heroes? there more then one way with these things and this just a new way to explore zelda. This will bring new and fresh experience's to the story and game play as time pass's .

 

[Mad Ones]

I think you're referring to Anita Sarkeesian. She does feminist frequency and discusses gender in video games. She has a lot of good points.

I agree, I like the partnership aspect a lot. A think a good compromise would be to make both playable and the player can decide or switch between the two depending on where you are in the story. If Nintendo wants to experiment with 2 player gaming it would be really cool to see Link and Zelda both playing at the same time.

 

[zenith16]

I think you're referring to Anita Sarkeesian. She does feminist frequency and discusses gender in video games. She has a lot of good points.

I agree, I like the partnership aspect a lot. A think a good compromise would be to make both playable and the player can decide or switch between the two depending on where you are in the story. If Nintendo wants to experiment with 2 player gaming it would be really cool to see Link and Zelda both playing at the same time.

yes I said I fix the spelling for that later but it's her I was speaking of when ever she's mention the web explodes or fall apart where people want to commit genocide on each other.

She had many valid points I think the problem is it becomes one sided on both ends and what ever valid points are made by ether side fall a part cause people are too busy trying to find weapons on each other. and don't want to listen cause of "the only point that matters is mine type of mind set."

yes a partner ship with zelda and link for the future of these games is a good Idea . they caneve show types of storys where ether can be kid napped and need saving.

We've seen her a damsel for decades and now since it's a new age all people want a new fresh experience . There this thing that's shown often with reporters/ people always asking dev's what this new installment or new game in general is bring to the table.

People are always seeking new experience's. This is what this should be looked at as . And nothing more. same thing can said with precess toad stool too. it's just a new thing to explore. This a fine way to solve the issue. Quiet frankly I want that nasty debate to be settled and this is the best way to have it done . It doesn't have to be that way at all.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I really don't give a damn about feminism, and I doubt Nintendo does either.

But to me, it seems like a lot of untapped potential. Zelda is usually a major part of the story, and she has her own quest. She also has some crazy powers (depending on whether or not Nintendo remembers she has them). Over the years she's been a ninja resistance fighter, a spunky pirate, a spirit, and the reincarnation of a goddess.

Quite frankly she could be a much more interesting protagonist than Link.

That doesn't mean the game shouldn't include Link.

 

[zenith16]

this why I also said it add a new game play and story experince . that's the main hook. the other part will just satisfy those that want to play as ether sex. who may now necessarily care about it being a feminist issue.and for those that do well they have what they want (they better enjoy the g ame other wise if they were just making noise that's a nother issue have no time to get into. *but they were valid points regardless ) and that will be fine as well. but the other one is the main hook of it all.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Zelda has changed drastically. She's been a pirate, a ghost, a ninja, etc! Link can still have the spirit of the hero and Zelda can still be a princess. Except for once you can play as the princess. You don't want the exact same story every time do you?

It is not about wanting the exact same game. It is about wanting to play as the series hero. It is the same for me with Halo, Uncharted, and other such series. Every time I hear a suggestion that someone else could be the lead in Uncharted, I say no thank you. Just like I wouldn't want to play Bayonetta or Tomb Raider as anyone other then Bayonetta or Lara. It is why the DMC remake pissed so many people off.

Just like how Metal Gear Solid 2 is the least liked Metal Gear Solid by far.

Zelda never saves herself. She's dependent on Link, and isn't the protagonist.

That is because Link is the protagonist.

Once again, Link can still be a hero with the mastersword and all that jazz, but we can play as Zelda instead as she goes on her own quest.

What you just described is Metal Gear Solid 2. Yeah, no thanks.

Wouldn't surprise me if the next game contradicts SS anyway.

How so?

I agree with Klank that Nintendo might be moving towards more customization. And the love interest is pretty much non-existent except for in SS.

Customization doesn't suddenly mean you are going to play as someone other then Link.

Did you miss the series producer's quote I linked to above?

 

[Thundercrack85]

Darth, you're probably not going to like Halo 4 then.

Personally, I really liked Halo 2. I thought the inclusion of the Arbiter went a very long way in improving the game.

Franchises need to shake things up from time to time to keep things from going stale. Zelda (the series) really needs some of that.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Also Halo Reach? Best Halo since... well, Halo.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Darth, you're probably not going to like Halo 4 then.

Personally, I really liked Halo 2. I thought the inclusion of the Arbiter went a very long way in improving the game.

Franchises need to shake things up from time to time to keep things from going stale. Zelda (the series) really needs some of that.

I loved Halo 4.

My favorite Halo since Combat Evolved. And why do you need to shake things up by messing with who the main character is?

Also Halo Reach? Best Halo since... well, Halo.

Halo Reach, like the very good ODST, are both not numbered for a reason. They are spin offs. Great spin offs, but spin offs never the less.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Me personally? I want to see Zelda's perspective.

I am not even necessarily saying change the main character, merely add one.

Zelda's character has a lot of potential as a protagonist.

Also, since every Link is an individual (some more distinct than others), I'm not even sure if your view works, even if I didn't disagree with it.

 

[zenith16]

I think a better game series that's making traction is to use Sword art online AKA SAO. when talking about this cause with that you can customize and make your own protagonist look like you wish but other wise your still playing the main protagonist which will always be Kirito. kinda what taken away from mass effect.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I think a better game series that's making traction is to use Sword art online AKA SAO. cause with that you can cautomise and make your own protagonist look like you wish but other wise your still playing the main protagonist which will always be Kirito

Honestly doesn't do much for me.

Though I do think if they're going to have it be Link again (I never thought otherwise) that they should give you more choices with his appearance. Even if it's just wardrobe.

 

[zenith16]

Honestly doesn't do much for me.

Though I do think if they're going to have it be Link again (I never thought otherwise) that they should give you more choices with his appearance. Even if it's just wardrobe.

Don't worry I know what you mean but that game did what you mentioned with wardrode etc. which is why I mentioned it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Me personally? I want to see Zelda's perspective.

I am not even necessarily saying change the main character, merely add one.

Zelda's character has a lot of potential as a protagonist.

Also, since every Link is an individual (some more distinct than others), I'm not even sure if your view works, even if I didn't disagree with it.

Skyward Sword establishes it is the same "spirit". It is like Adventure Time with Finn and his past life in "The Vault".

Also, there have more then one game featuring the "same" Link. Majora Mask, Link's Awakening, The Adventure of Link, the Oracle games.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Played some serious Wind Waker today. Can't wait for the next Zelda. My best friend was watching me play and he'd never played or seen a Zelda game in action. He was blown away. Sat and watched me play for hours. If the next Zelda has as many wide open spaces between dungeons as WW, I hope they add more to do in between. Thank God they added the Swift Sail to the Wii U version. Makes the game so much nicer.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I'm not even sure if that works with the other games. The Link in Wind Waker is unrelated to the Hero of Time because the Hero of Time left that timeline. Whereas the Link in Twilight Princess is implied to be a direct descendant of the Hero of Time.

Again in short, to hell with Skyward Sword.

 

[Matt Mortem]

 

[Mad Ones]

That is one of the funniest pics i've seen in a long time. I want to go to there.

Played some serious Wind Waker today. Can't wait for the next Zelda. My best friend was watching me play and he'd never played or seen a Zelda game in action. He was blown away. Sat and watched me play for hours. If the next Zelda has as many wide open spaces between dungeons as WW, I hope they add more to do in between. Thank God they added the Swift Sail to the Wii U version. Makes the game so much nicer.

WW was actually the first Zelda game I ever played. I wish I had a Wii U so I could play the remake!

 

[zenith16]

Japan Gets This Awesome Triforce Clock With Hyrule Warriors. June 16, 2014 . 9:01am

Hyrule Warriors will have “Premium Box” and “Treasure Box” editions in Japan, which will come with a few bonus items aside from the game.

Hyrule Warriors will have “Premium Box” and “Treasure Box” editions in Japan, which will come with a few bonus items aside from the game. The main attraction in both boxes is a clock shaped like the Triforce, and Tecmo Koei recently revealed (thanks, Zelda Informer) what it looks like:



Aside from the clock, the Premium box will contain the game, an official booklet and six character costumes. Meanwhile, the Treasure box will contain the game, an official booklet, the clock, eight character costumes, a treasure box with sound, and the scarf that Link wears in the game.

The Premium Box can actually be ordered via Play-Asia if you care to import it. Meanwhile, the Treasure Box is exclusive to Amazon.jp and Game City.

Hyrule Warriors will be released in Japan this August. A western release will follow in September, although Nintendo have not announced any special packages or bundles for the game in the West yet.

source:Siliconera

 

[Rodrigo90]

You've turned the sacred Goldon Triforce...into a clock?