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Trailer's looking good! I was expecting something like Twilight Princess in terms of graphics but still...looking good
 
The graphics are better than TP. If you play it again, it doesn't look as good close up. This looks better, just has a different art style. Almost looks like it has a bit of cel-shadedness to it.
 
It looks slightly more cartoony, but is still basically the same style.
 
i really liked the in-game look of the characters in ocarina of time/majora's mask (which was due to the blocky n64 graphics). though they were cartoonish, they fit the tone of the story.
 
It should be called "The Legend of Zelda: The Twilight Wind Princess".... That's essentially what it looks like. I'm not too convinced with this so far. I'll reserve final judgement, but i've really lost alot of faith in Nintendo. All they do is get by on nostalgia and trying to please fans, rather than actually improving or expanding on existing games... Seriously, how many games in the last 2 years have just been slightly better looking version of classic 2d games? And now we get a goldeneye remake, a donkey kong remake, a metroid remake, a ton of Nintendo remakes for DS, and the most original game they have, which is Zelda, and they can't even pick a particular focus for it... It's like half realistic Twilight Princess graphics, and then half stylised cel shading from Wind Waker... They can't even commit to just doing one of them!
 
Graphics wise, it is artsy, but it's not impressive. Such as the environments, grass, it's still a bit card boardy
 
We're not gonna see a massive leap in graphics until Nintendo comes out with the next console. Obviously they can do stuff that rivals the other two consoles, but I think they're just trying to prove a point with the Wii.
 
If you go back and play Windwaker now, it still looks gorgeous, and it looks loads better than that. This Zelda looks like Psychonauts, or another vaguely cartoony ps2 era game. I dont think Zelda when I look at it, I think of Gex: Enter the Gecko. I hope in the next year they improve the graphics. I hate this half and half stuff. If they want cartoony, then why not good full cel shaded? This just looks bland.
 
http://kotaku.com/5564654/zelda-details-link-is-from-cloud-city-game-might-not-make-2010

CASTLE IN THE SKY - In a first for the franchise, Link isn't raised in a village. At least, not one on the ground. He's instead from the land of Skyloft, a floating island in the sky. Link only "discovers" the land below later in life, and finds it overrun by evil. He thus spends the game going between his home in the clouds and the land below (hence the "cloud jump" in the game's trailer).

HUD-BE-GONE - The game's art style may look yummy, but that HUD looks yucky. Thankfully, Aonuma tells us that in the final retail version we'll be able to switch it off.

NEW MAPS - Acknowledging that previous maps in the Zelda series haven't been all they could be, series director Aonuma promises that Skyward's will be easier to follow, and won't leave you as lost as those in other Zelda games.

DOUBLE CONTROL - Similar to Red Steel 2, Skyward will use both the MotionPlus and Wii sensor bar to track your movements, meaning that even if you point the Remote away from the screen, the game will still know where you are.

BOOMING SOUNDTRACK - Mario Galaxy 2 had a big, thunderous orchestral soundtrack. Will Skyward follow suit? Miyamoto says Nintendo couldn't do what it did with Galaxy 2 and not do the same with the next Zelda, which we'll take as a "yes".

2011 - This game won't make 2010, as Miyamoto and Aonuma want to give the development team the rest of the year to complete the game and make sure it's in tip-top shape.
 
Seriously, how many games in the last 2 years have just been slightly better looking version of classic 2d games? And now we get a goldeneye remake, a donkey kong remake, a metroid remake, a ton of Nintendo remakes for DS,
Only Goldeneye is a remake and even that isn't a full-fledged remake.
http://kotaku.com/5564445/goldeneye-for-wii-is-a-remake-with-some-asterisks

Donkey Kong is not a remake, it's a sequel. The little we saw was nothing like the SNES games.

Metroid Other M is in no way, shape, or form a remake. I believe it takes place after Super Metroid. The only Metroid game that was a remake was Zero Mission (GBA remake of original Metroid).

As for the 3DS games we saw, some such as Ocarina of Time may have been tech demos and not the actual games they'll eventually release
http://kotaku.com/5564636/nintendo-searching-back-catalogue-for-3ds-reboots

This isn't aimed at you, but I'm so ****ing tired of hearing ***** and moan about remakes. I never heard anyone complain about Perfect Dark or Banjo-Kazooie getting enhanced remakes on XBLA. But Nintendo shows off a Goldeneye, a game people have been dying for a remake of, and they ***** that it's not a full-fledged remake. They show off some N64 remakes on the 3DS and they complain about too many remakes. All of it just makes me :facepalm:

and the most original game they have, which is Zelda, and they can't even pick a particular focus for it... It's like half realistic Twilight Princess graphics, and then half stylised cel shading from Wind Waker... They can't even commit to just doing one of them!

They did pick a focus. It's something that is a mix of realism and cel-shaded.
 
I meant reboot.

A mix of something isn't a focus. That's trying to please all parties. Please, don't go defending something you can't. Nintendo have been losing popularity for a while now, due to failing to provide decent titles for it's core fan base in favour of family friendly titles. Think back to N64 days, hell even gamecube, and think about how many original titles we were getting. Nowadays, Nintendo take at least 2 years to provide a 1st party game, like a new mario game or a zelda game (more like 4 years for Zelda) and when they release it, they hardly develop the game at all. They keep all the basics, but put it in a different setting. I know i'm not alone in this way of thinking.

When I said reboot, i mean look at the titles. 2D Donkey Kong might be fun, and nostalgic, but should I have to pay $100 bucks to play what is essentially just a revamped version of the original? It was the same with New Super Mario Bros, Smash Bros, Mario Kart (when half of the levels were just re-used from previous games). They've been relying way too heavily on the nostalgia factor of previous games, rather than developing any new, interesting titles. They saw how excited everyone was with characters like Pit, in Smash Bros Brawl, yet do they release a Wii game for that? An interesting new title? Nope. But 3 years later, they release info about a DS game.... because they currently make more money from DS games. Is it their principle console? No. Do they seem to care about the core fans, the fans who've been playing Nintendo their whole life? No. Do they care about the cheap to make, shovel ware family crap that they KNOW will be bought by parents all over the world? YES.
 
I meant reboot.

A mix of something isn't a focus. That's trying to please all parties. Please, don't go defending something you can't.
The new Zelda style is focused. It's a realistic style but with brighter colors (at least from what we've seen) and everything looks smoother and rounded. If you play TP again, it doesn't look as polished as this does.

Nintendo have been losing popularity for a while now, due to failing to provide decent titles for it's core fan base in favour of family friendly titles.
Yet the hardcore fans still eat up their big titles and are the ones buying the games like Red Steel 2 and No More Heroes.

Think back to N64 days, hell even gamecube, and think about how many original titles we were getting. Nowadays, Nintendo take at least 2 years to provide a 1st party game, like a new mario game or a zelda game (more like 4 years for Zelda)
2006: Twilight Princess
2007: Metroid Prime Corruption, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario
2008: Mario Kart Wii, Super Smash Bros Brawl
2009: New Super Mario Bros, Punch-Out
2010: Super Mario Galaxy, Sin & Punishment, Metroid: Other M, Kirby: Epic Yarn, Donkey Kong Country Returns
2011: Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

That is just Nintendo published Wii games. As you can see, 2006 was the weakest year of the bunch (the Wii was only out for 2 months that year). The gap between SS and TP will be rather long at 5 years but there were 2 DS games released during then.

and when they release it, they hardly develop the game at all. They keep all the basics, but put it in a different setting. I know i'm not alone in this way of thinking.
:lmao:

When I said reboot, i mean look at the titles. 2D Donkey Kong might be fun, and nostalgic, but should I have to pay $100 bucks to play what is essentially just a revamped version of the original?

DKCR isn't a revamp, it's a completely new game. It's no more a revamp of the SNES games than Majora's Mask was to Ocarina of Time.

It was the same with New Super Mario Bros, Smash Bros, Mario Kart (when half of the levels were just re-used from previous games). They've been relying way too heavily on the nostalgia factor of previous games, rather than developing any new, interesting titles.

They don't need to make new IP, they have more than Sony and MS combined and more than either company ever will. I will agree that they should have paid more attention to their franchises like Pikmin, Star Fox, and (until now) Kirby and DK.

They saw how excited everyone was with characters like Pit, in Smash Bros Brawl, yet do they release a Wii game for that? An interesting new title? Nope.

Last one is a "Yes" actually.

But 3 years later, they release info about a DS game.... because they currently make more money from DS games.
Prove it. Don't go by total sales, more people have DS's than Wiis due to both the hardware and software being cheaper.

Is it their principle console? No. Do they seem to care about the core fans, the fans who've been playing Nintendo their whole life? No. Do they care about the cheap to make, shovel ware family crap that they KNOW will be bought by parents all over the world? YES.

The only shovelware Nintendo has published is Wii Music and Wii Play. Wii Music was a complete bomb and Wii Play only sells because it's bundled with a Wiimote.
 
Jesus, I can see you're a Nintendo fanboy. I'll never understand the terminal intensity with which some people defend a console. I thought all that my console vs your console rubbish was over in the 90's. Look, I have all consoles, and the Wii was the first one of the bunch I bought, and I find it just collects dust most of the time. I review games, and honestly, on the rare occasion that a Wii game worth reviewing comes out, it never feels as substantial a game to warrant $100 bucks as the great stuff coming out from Sony and Microsoft.

With your little game timeline, how many years between individual franchises? Mario Galaxy? 2 years. Zelda? 4. Exactly what I said. I really couldn't be ****ed with the whole back and forth BS that some people seem to love on this board, and I can tell you're going to argue everything anyway

As for all the stats and BS you're arguing, I work in the games industry and my gf works at EB games. I've seen exactly what crap the Wii churns out, and exactly what sells. If you compare Nintendo's output of quality games over MS and Sony, they're severely lacking and it's the truth. I love the Nintendo franchises, but if they're not careful they're going to chuck a Marvel. Someone else needs to run things over there, and I think a new direction is definitely needed.

I'll still reserve final judgement on Zelda, since they have heaps of time to finish developing, but from the footage I saw today, Windwaker is loads more stylised and looks sharper than that.

P.S. You're still contradicting yourself, it can't be realistic and stylised. It's either cartoony or realistic. Real life isn't cartoony (at least not to me, maybe you blindly diehard nintendo fans see everything in mushroom kingdom vision)
 
Jesus, I can see you're a Nintendo fanboy.
I'm not a Nintendo fanboy. I just don't agree with what you're saying.

I review games, and honestly, on the rare occasion that a Wii game worth reviewing comes out, it never feels as substantial a game to warrant $100 bucks as the great stuff coming out from Sony and Microsoft.
Since you're in Australia, it's a lot different. $100 AUD is $86.50 USD. I wouldn't buy any game at that price. It especially sucks if they're all that price since Wii games ARe always $50 at MSRP vs $60 for PS3 and 360.

With your little game timeline, how many years between individual franchises? Mario Galaxy? 2 years. Zelda? 4. Exactly what I said.
Complaining about 3 Mario games in 2 years is petty. The gaps between games in a single franchise are no longer than other series. God of War II-III was 3 years. Halo 2-3 was 3 years. Gears of War 2-3 was 3 years. MGS 3-4 was 4 years. Nintendo isn't an exception with their titles.

I really couldn't be ****ed with the whole back and forth BS that some people seem to love on this board, and I can tell you're going to argue everything anyway
That's probably the reputation I have here.

As for all the stats and BS you're arguing, I work in the games industry and my gf works at EB games. I've seen exactly what crap the Wii churns out, and exactly what sells. If you compare Nintendo's output of quality games over MS and Sony, they're severely lacking and it's the truth.
The Wii shovelware is not produced by Nintendo though. That is a completely separate issue. As I said, Nintendo has only published 2 shovelware games. The fault lies with those companies making those games, not Nintendo.

I love the Nintendo franchises, but if they're not careful they're going to chuck a Marvel. Someone else needs to run things over there, and I think a new direction is definitely needed.
Not likely since very few of Nintendo's games are crap.

P.S. You're still contradicting yourself, it can't be realistic and stylised. It's either cartoony or realistic. Real life isn't cartoony (at least not to me, maybe you blindly diehard nintendo fans see everything in mushroom kingdom vision)
Realistic is not the same as reality.
 
I'm a huge Nintendo fan and will buy this new Zelda game because i'm a Zelda fanatic. With that being said I was severly disappointed when I saw the trailer for this. Why oh why did they go back to that crappy cell shaded style?? I loved Wind Waker and didn't mind the cell shaded graphics at the time but even back then I knew I wouldn't want them to reuse those graphics for any future Zelda games.

Not only that but the few bad guys it showed look way too childish. I know there are baddies like that in past Zelda games but for some reason I wish one of these recent games would bring the serious and dark style the first two games had, especially and primarily Zelda II.
 
I love the art style, and I loved the way both TP and WW looked. A bold, colorful Hyrule that I can't wait to explore.
 
BOOMING SOUNDTRACK - Mario Galaxy 2 had a big, thunderous orchestral soundtrack. Will Skyward follow suit? Miyamoto says Nintendo couldn't do what it did with Galaxy 2 and not do the same with the next Zelda, which we'll take as a "yes".
Fan-freaking-tastic. A fully (or close to it) orchestral score is the number one thing I've wanted in the Zelda franchise. It's always had great music, an orchestra would make it that much better.

So I guess after reading that bit about Link's sky-village it's safe to say that this isn't actually a direct sequel to Twilight Princess?
 
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