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St. Paul is the new Hockeytown, according to SI.

Now that i agree with.....

That building has been packed ever since Minnesota got hockey again, and the North Stars should have never left anyway. Another case of the idiot NHL expanding in to non-Hockey markets because they can get an arena built in a richer city.
 
Now that i agree with.....

That building has been packed ever since Minnesota got hockey again, and the North Stars should have never left anyway. Another case of the idiot NHL expanding in to non-Hockey markets because they can get an arena built in a richer city.

The North Stars weren't selling out and the owners sold the team to the Dallas owners (which has been a big success) and the former North Star owners took their money and bought an expansion franchise for San Jose. Then Minneapolis/St.Paul were awarded an expansion franchise. So the North Stars moving is probably the best (thought you don't want to see a team move) move to happen to the NHL.
 
When was the last time Detroit was voted Hockeytown? I know Philly was a few years back
 
Flyers are makin a push for Sundin.....offering up Jeff Carter and a first rounder
 
Does Detroit still have "Hockeytown" printed on it's rink?
 
Active trading expected for Red Wings
Monday, Jan 21, 2008 10:03 am EST
The Detroit Red Wings will be active [trading], to what degree remains to be seen. They could use a second-line forward, be it a center or a goal-scoring winger. The Red Wings could also use a top-four defenseman. If nothing else, they absolutely need depth at the blue line.

The Red Wings are not likely to part with a significant player off their roster but will be willing to deal high draft picks and/or prospects. The price for Marian Hossa is likely to be too steep for Detroit, which might not have the future cap space to sign him long-term anyway. Rob Blake might be the best fit and most realistic acquisition for the Red Wings.

Source: Mlive.com

Related: Marian Hossa, Rob Blake, Detroit Red Wings

Will Flyers send Carter to Toronto for Sundin?
Monday, Jan 21, 2008 10:00 am EST

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The Toronto Maple Leafs could be a seller and rumors are heating up that they could be looking to move Mats Sundin. A rumor reported in the Ottawa Sun recently suggested Philadelphia Flyers GM Paul Holmgren would move Jeff Carter and a first-round pick for Sundin.

That has a zero percent chance of happening. Sundin will 37 next month, makes $5.5 million and is an unrestricted free agent next season. Carter is a young player the Flyers are not willing to give up on — especially just for a playoff run — and he is having a decent season with 17 goals and 12 assists.

Source: Philadelphia Daily News

Related: Mats Sundin, Philadelphia Flyers, Toronto Maple Leafs

Flyers want Forsberg
Monday, Jan 21, 2008 9:41 am EST
Even with all the questions about his health and desire to play, the Philadelphia Flyers want Peter Forsberg back according to the Philadelphia Daily News.

The quiet word among Flyers management is that this is something they would do without hesitation if they get the chance. Having said that, to date the Flyers have had no contact with either Forsberg or his agent since the Swedish star met with general manager Paul Holmgren for coffee last fall.

The Flyers are waiting to see what happens when Forsberg starts skating again, supposedly this week, and if he accepts an invitation to play for the Swedish national team during a 4-day tournament beginning Feb. 7 and how that goes. It is expected that if Forsberg feels he can return, the Flyers will be among the teams he will contact.

Source: Getty Images

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I really have no interest in Mats Sundin. His best days i'd say are behind him, and while Jeff Carter is hardly the values commodity he once was, his youth brings room for him to develop, while Sundin is more of a guy that the older Flyers teams may have brought in to try and put them over the top.
 
Im not 100% either I woudl give up a 1st and Carter
 
Predators’ average attendance stands at 12,618

After 22 home games, the Predators’ paid attendance average stands at 12,618, according to figures compiled by the team and obtained from Metro Sports Authority.

The Predators’ two most recent home games – against Chicago and Calgary — produced paid attendances of 11,677 and 9,025, respectively.

As matters stand now, the Predators must average 14,000 in paid attendance this season to keep the lease between the team and the city intact. That would keep the team in Nashville for at least the next three seasons.

A new lease has been agreed to by the new local ownership and mayor Karl Dean, but still must be approved by the sports authority and Metro Council.

The Predators must average at least 13,125 in paid attendance this season to qualify for the NHL’s revenue-sharing plan.

link: http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080117/SPORTS02/80117053/1028

So with only 19 home games left, the Predators pray for the following to happen:

1) Increase paid attendance by 500 per game to get revenue sharing. (How much did they lose last year WITH revenue sharing?)

2) Increase paid attendance by 1400 per game to keep the lease in tact.

3) City council required to still approve the new lease.

All this, while sitting in 12th place, and 5 points out of a playoff spot.

Badger, you may be lining up for KC season tickets soon.
Unless Winnipeggers swoop in and use a million Gretzky rookie cards and bring the team to Canada.
 
So with only 19 home games left, the Predators pray for the following to happen:

1) Increase paid attendance by 500 per game to get revenue sharing. (How much did they lose last year WITH revenue sharing?)

2) Increase paid attendance by 1400 per game to keep the lease in tact.

3) City council required to still approve the new lease.

All this, while sitting in 12th place, and 5 points out of a playoff spot.

Badger, you may be lining up for KC season tickets soon.
Unless Winnipeggers swoop in and use a million Gretzky rookie cards and bring the team to Canada.

two words:

Peter Forsberg
 
two words:

Peter Forsberg

I don't think Forsberg would sign the Predators. They have to fight off 6 other teams just so they can clinch 8th. If he's coming back he's going with a contender. Flyers, Avs, Senators, Red Wings would be the teams I would look at if I was him.

Well its finally happened. JFJ Jr. is out, Fletcher is back in

Ferguson fired, Fletcher named interim GM
TSN.ca Staff
1/22/2008 12:49:47 PM

The Toronto Maple Leafs have fired general manager John Ferguson Jr. The team informed Ferguson of his fate earlier early Tuesday morning. Cliff Fletcher has been made the club's interim general manager.

When contacted by TSN, Ferguson said he would not be commenting at this time but when asked if he was offered, or considered, the option of staying on in a different capacity, he bluntly said, "no."

"After full consideration of the Leafs' situation, it has become clear that change and a new direction is needed," said Richard Peddie, president and CEO of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment Ltd in a release. "The decision has been made that John will not be receiving a new contract at the end of this year, and it's in the best interests of the Leafs and of John to begin the transition immediately."

The Maple Leafs have called a 1pm et/10am pt news conference.

Toronto currently sits in 14th place in the Eastern Conference with a 19-22-5-3 record. They have missed the playoffs for the last two seasons.

"[Ferguson] has been given the opportunity and the resources he requested to deliver results from the strategic plans that he put in place when he was named general manager in 2003, and while the new collective bargaining agreement required some re-shaping of those plans, the results have fallen short of what our organization, including John, and our fans expect," said Peddie.

Fletcher had been linked to much of the speculation regarding the team. The Leafs contacted a number of hockey management types last week to gauge their interest in the job and asked Fletcher if he was interested in taking over for the rest of the 2007-08 campaign.

"Cliff Fletcher is the ideal person to lay the groundwork of positive change for the Leafs,” said Peddie. "As all of our general managers have had, he will have the autonomy and responsibility for all hockey decisions with a focus on establishing a foundation from which the next general manager can build. He will guide us through the upcoming trade deadline and toward the draft and free agent signing period."

The Maple Leafs also announced that Toronto sports lawyer Gord Kirke has been retained to assist Peddie in the search for the team's new GM. The search team has specific qualities in mind for the next full-time GM of the club.

"Our ideal candidate will be a long-term builder and a short-term fixer who has an established track record of success on the ice," explained Peddie. "Along with experience and extensive knowledge in the areas of drafting and identifying talent in the professional, amateur and international ranks, this individual will be comfortable with the intense scrutiny within the Toronto hockey market and will work effectively with the media.

"He will have the full autonomy to lead this hockey club in the manner he feels is best," added Peddie.

The fate of head coach Paul Maurice is unknown at this time, however Maurice left the ice at one point during the team's morning practice. He re-emerged from the dressing room with MLSE President and CEO Richard Peddie.

Fletcher, a Montreal native and Hockey Hall of Famer, was GM of the Leafs from 1991 to 1997. His NHL career spans more than 50 years, starting as GM of the Verdun Blues in 1956. Verdun was a junior team operated by the Montreal Canadiens and Fletcher ran the club for 10 years with Sam Pollack never very far away.

Ten years later, the Habs hired him as a scout.

When St. Louis joined the NHL, Fletcher was hired by the Blues to head up the scouting department and later became their assistant general manager.

He got his first GM job with the Atlanta Flames in 1972. He was general manager of the Calgary Flames from 1980-1991. In that time, the Flames won two President's Trophy's and a Stanley Cup.

In 1991, he joined the Toronto Maple Leafs as president, GM and COO. He stayed with Toronto through 1997, after helping to turn the team into a contender again.

He joined the Tampa Bay Lightning in 1999 as a senior advisor, before taking over as GM of the Phoenix Coyotes in 2001.

Fletcher was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame as a builder in 2004.

Fletcher had memorable first go with Leafs
TSN.ca Staff
1/22/2008 1:15:07 PM

Cliff Fletcher is remembered by many Maple Leafs fans as the man who brought the team back to respectability. Others remember the man who left the cupboard bare.

Hired in 1991 from the Calgary Flames, Fletcher immediately set about re-building the floundering Leafs through a series of bold trades.

In came Grant Fuhr and Glenn Anderson from Edmonton. Fifty-goal scorer Gary Leeman was shipped to Calgary for Doug Gilmour as part of a ten-player swap that also netted Jamie Macoun for Toronto. Fuhr was later flipped to Buffalo for Dave Andreychuk, who starred as Gilmour's wing man.

Hiring coach Pat Burns also helped to change the landscape at Maple Leaf Gardens, too.
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The early results were good. The Leafs twice reached the conference finals, and Fletcher was named the Hockey News' Executive of the Year. But they were not able to get any further the hump.

Fletcher responded ahead of the 1994-95 season with another bold move, trading fan favourite Wendel Clark, Sylvain Lefebvre, Landon Wilson and a first round pick for Mats Sundin, Garth Butcher, Todd Warriner and a first round pick.

The results were not what Fletcher had hoped for and Toronto never again came close to the Stanley Cup on Fletcher's watch. In his last season at the helm, Toronto finished 23rd in a 26-team league.

Fletcher made more than 50 trades in his Toronto tenure, and that left the minor league system pretty thin for the future. The GM who once famously uttered the words, "draft, shmaft," had made only one quality first round pick - Kenny Jonsson in 1993, and he was traded away.

Fletcher's strategy of trading youth for veteran talent had turned the Flames into a Stanley Cup champion, but it fell short in Toronto and later fell flat in Phoenix.

Will he try again in his second stint in Toronto, even if it's just in an interim capacity at this point? Will that work in the salary cap era?

Time will tell. The trade deadline is just over a month away.

Toronto may have been better off hiring Glenn Healey to be the interim GM. Fletcher's best days are clearly behind him as he sunk Toronto and Phoenix.
Now the Toronto media will up the trade rumours and new GM rumours.
 
Toronto may have been better off hiring Glenn Healey to be the interim GM. Fletcher's best days are clearly behind him as he sunk Toronto and Phoenix.
Now the Toronto media will up the trade rumours and new GM rumours.

Nobody's surprised about JF Jr. getting the axe... he was a token nobody hired on with the responsibilty to do what all the other people around him told him what to do... now that that has failed miserably, he's on the chopping block.

Fletcher might make a deal or two, but I can only see him lasting until the end of the season.
 
TSN.ca Staff
1/22/2008 2:56:48 PM

The Penguins' Evgeni Malkin will be heading to the All-Star game after all as the Russian sniper was one of five injury replacement players added to Sunday's game.

Malkin, along with Boston Bruins goaltender Tim Thomas have been added to the Eastern Conference roster while the Ducks defenceman Scott Niedermayer and forward Corey Perry have been added to the West along with Stars forward Mike Ribeiro.

The players named today replace Colorado Avalanche forward Paul Stastny, Detroit Red Wings forward Henrik Zetterberg, Stars defenseman Sergei Zubov, New Jersey Devils goaltender Martin Brodeur and Penguins forward Sidney Crosby. Crosby will miss the next six to eight weeks of the season as he recovers from a high ankle sprain suffered during Friday's game against the Lightning. Crosby led all players in fan All-Star balloting and was scheduled to start the game.

Meanwhile Stasny is recovering after getting his appendix removed on January 17th. Zetterberg is resting and aching back while Zubov is attempting to recuperate from groin and foot injuries. No reason was stated for Brodeur's absence.

When the reserve rosters were originally announced, Malkin appeared to be the biggest snub as he is 11th in the league in scoring with 26 goals and 30 assists in 48 games. NHL on TSN analyst Mike Milbury had suggested that the NHL was 'teaching the kid a lesson' for skipping the 2007 NHL Awards show where Malkin captured the Calder Memorial Trophy as the League's top rookie.

The addition of Niedermayer is peculiar considering that the reigning Conn Smythe trophy winning defenceman missed the majority of the season as he weighed retirement. It will be Niedermayer's fifth All-Star appearance while Malkin, Ribeiro, Perry and Thomas will all be making their All-Star debuts.

Nobody's surprised about JF Jr. getting the axe... he was a token nobody hired on with the responsibilty to do what all the other people around him told him what to do... now that that has failed miserably, he's on the chopping block.

Fletcher might make a deal or two, but I can only see him lasting until the end of the season.

He still had a winning record as GM, his mistake was not being prepared after the lockout for the new CBA/new rules but also former GMs Ken Dryden and Pat Quinn didn't leave him with the young talent ready to restock the team either.

Yeah they're hoping to find a GM in 6 months, then Fletcher gets paid 13 months for essentially doing nothing. I don't know why Sundin is being so stubborn, we've seen in the past veteran players being traded then returning in the summer. Instead of playing golf in May, he can enjoy himself and play in the playoffs. Toronto has traded Wendell Clark and Dougie Gilmour, if they can find some team desperate enough to go after Sundin (whose on pace for his best season ever!) they'll do it.

Now which team would go after him? Colorado, New Jersey, Carolina, Minnesota?
 
After Sundin?
Flyers showed interest, but I can't see them giving a 1st and Carter.....
 
He still had a winning record as GM, his mistake was not being prepared after the lockout for the new CBA/new rules but also former GMs Ken Dryden and Pat Quinn didn't leave him with the young talent ready to restock the team either.

I think at the time, no "real" GM wanted the job in Toronto because they knew they'd have to deal with Dryden and Quinn's approval on every decision... who the hell would want to work in those conditions?

Whoever does come in eventually will probably (if he's THAT good of a GM... say someone like Bowman) ask to have no interference with his decisions.

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Yeah I don't think Philly will go after Sundin. Maybe if they have extra draft picks from deals they've made but they should concentrate on Forsberg and if not just keep the team intact. They just got Gagne back.

On The Score they were saying because of the salary cap, MLSE has all this extra money they can't spend on players so they may end up spending $10 million to get Ken Holland out of Detroit or Brian Burke.

While both Toronto and Buffalo are close to Detroit geographically, their ownership philosophies could not be further apart.

Barring a surprise victory on Friday night versus the Atlanta Thrashers, the Buffalo Sabres will arrive in Toronto on Saturday riding an 11 game winless streak.

With a number like that, it's hard to believe the Sabres aren't looking up at the woeful Maple Leafs in the NHL standings.

Sad really; considering that the Sabres were the Presidents' Trophy winners as the No. 1 team in the league last season.

Or is it?

In a lot of ways the Sabres are like the Leafs, their struggles on the ice are a direct result of what's been done in the front office and, especially, in the owner's suite.

The fans in Toronto have a tough time working up and anger towards ownership because it's mostly a nameless, faceless group represented by a mostly obscure Board of Directors and a couple of businessmen (Larry Tannenbaum & Richard Peddie) who seem better suited at warring with each other and not very effective at change. That leaves fans focusing on general manager John Ferguson who, though mistake prone and under fire, still ranks as the most qualified hockey person in the organization.

But ultimately it will be Ferguson, and perhaps coach Paul Maurice, who pays the price for the Leafs many shortcomings. But when that happens it will still be status quo in Leafs land because ownership will be exactly the same.

In Buffalo, it's only slightly different. Tom Golisano, viewed just three years ago as a knight on a white horse who rode in and rescued the franchise from bankruptcy, is now looked upon as a penny-pinching incompetent whose interests are being managed by managing partner Larry Quinn, a longtime lightning rod for criticism based on his past performance as president (under different ownership). Quinn, and his perceived mishandling of off-season decisions that left this edition of the Sabres without Daniel Briere and Chris Drury and with a bloated contract for Thomas Vanek that has crippled his production, caused dissention in the locker room and has led to poor decisions in regards to Teppo Numminen's medical problems and Brian Campbell's contract negotiations.

What it would be like if fans could hire and fire owners the way owners do with people they employ to take the hits for them?

After all, the Ottawa Senators have had many of the same problems the current Sabres, including bankruptcy, but owner Eugene Melnyk has managed to keep a good team together and may be a Stanley Cup finalist again this season.

Vancouver and Calgary have complicated ownership situations but continue to ice creditable teams and though the Edmonton Oilers have ownership issues almost as absurd as the Leafs, there is still a focus on doing what's right for the product rather than the profits.

Kudos to each, but if I had a vote for most valuable owner, it would go to Mike Illitch of the Detroit Red Wings.

Year after year the product Illitch puts on the ice as every bit as good as the pizza he puts in the boxes of his first-love business: Little Caesars. His baseball team, the Detroit Tigers, are every bit as good (and well run) as his efforts to reignite development in downtown Detroit. He has his critics, but by and large, Illitch is an owner who understands that you can never go wrong by hiring good people and then giving them what they need to do great work.

His hockey operations are a case in point.

The Red Wings win, plain and simple. They don't win Stanley Cup every year since he took over the failing franchise in 1982, but since they were rebuilt to respectability they certainly are perennial contenders. That's because Illitch put his faith and his cash in Ken Holland, arguably the best general manager in hockey. It's also because Illitch allows Holland to spend money on off-ice personal (assistant GM Jim Nill is said to be paid a GM's salary and has duties that keep him both challenged and in the fold though he could easily have a GM's job elsewhere). Holland also gets to spend on scouting and development and he's been allowed to bid for the best in both coaches (Scott Bowman and now Mike Babcock) and players. He's also been allowed enough of a budget to groom his eventual successor, Steve Yzerman, an investment in both Yzerman and his future as well as an investment in the concept of team as family with the long-serving captain being a focal point for the rest of the players who see the franchise like a family taking care of it own.

Can anyone say that about Buffalo or Toronto? What about other franchises like Florida, Phoenix, Los Angeles and other clubs who have almost as much turnover in the ownership ranks as they do in the player ranks?

Ask yourself how many teams would have kept Scotty Bowman in "the family" after he retired as coach of the Red Wings after winning his last of three Cups there in 2002. Also on staff is Mark Howe, son of Gordie Howe and a legendary defenceman in his own right, looking after scouting. And then there is Bob McCammon, a legendary hockey coach and administrator who remains on call for Holland or Babcock to use as they see fit.

It's been said that Detroit has more pro scouts than Central Scouting has for its amateur operations and an amateur scouting base that is larger than any two combined teams in the league.

There are also reports that the Red Wings, at least before the salary cap came into play, would readily spend more than they took in if they felt they were anywhere near close to having a successful season. A good deal of that money is spent keeping scouts and administrators happily working for the Red Wings rather than having them accept offers from other teams. Match that commitment to the Leafs, who've had a revolving door in regards to everyone from scouts to medical staff to coaches and behind the scenes folks. Or to the Sabres, who last season threw their entire scouting department over the side in what they say was a commitment to video scouting. In reality, and consistent with what their critics maintain, the move was a brutal budget slash to increase profitability at the expense of long-time employees.

Clearly ownership matters. You can see it in what George Gillett is attempting to do in Montreal and what's finally happening in Chicago now that the more enlightened heirs of Bill Wirtz are running the franchise.

As for the others? Well short of moving to Detroit, they can only hope to be so lucky.

Jim Kelley writes regularly on the NHL for Sportsnet.ca and can be heard on Primetime Sports on the FAN590.
 
What the hell is happening to my Bruins tonight? Jesus Christ. I hate, hate Montreal.


BTW, Tim Thomas made the All-Star team today. *shrugs*
 
I'm not a big fan of the Canadiens either. Though I am glad Huet's on my fantasy team. :o
 
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