Official Batman Titles thread 2.0 - Part 4

[Drz]

I do too. Wanna get dinner?

God my oh i love having dinners too! This is getting scary, yet encouraging at the same time to update my social status and feel love and compassion for someone.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Match made in Heaven! Next thing you'll tell me you enjoy being comfortable!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

So, am I the only one seeing that Superboy's 'cape' is a piece of cloth apparently duct-taped to his back? Because I feel like that deserves more attention.

 

[HighFivingMF]

So, am I the only one seeing that Superboy's 'cape' is a piece of cloth apparently duct-taped to his back? Because I feel like that deserves more attention.

Kid Flash put it there.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I did notice that, but I figured it was a joke or something. No, I mean, it is a joke and all, but it's suppose to be a kick-me sign that has a Superman logo on it for some reason. For some reason.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

But that's not a "kick me" sign, then. You don't prank someone by taping the symbol of the world's greatest hero on them. That's something they'd see in a mirror and go, "Hey, all right. Thanks, man!"

 

[Tron Bonne]

I know, but maybe in this continuity, it's a bad thing. I don't ****ing know. I mean, look at this goddamn thing. Do you really think any rational thought into it? **** you, it didn't

Sorry, but I don't know

 

[TheCorpulent1]

So, does Tim get to fly now? I mean, he's got wings, so if he can't, that's just f***ed up.

 

[HighFivingMF]

But that's not a "kick me" sign, then. You don't prank someone by taping the symbol of the world's greatest hero on them. That's something they'd see in a mirror and go, "Hey, all right. Thanks, man!"

You can see Kid Flash's streaks coming from behind him and his thumb is pointing up at the paper. I imagine putting a Superman symbol on a clone of him is different than... Everyone else.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, I just thought Kid Flash ran around Superboy and was giving a thumbs-up as he skidded to a halt.

 

[Tron Bonne]

You know, the costumes are getting all the crap here (which is justified), but I think the description warrants a lot of look too. The GL and Bat books seemed more or less same ol', same ol', with just a handful of shake ups (Dick back as Nightwing, Batgirl), but this sounds like a radically different version of these characters. I wonder if maybe some of the freak out about total rebooting wasn't totally unjustified after all.

 

[yenaled]

You know, the costumes are getting all the crap here (which is justified), but I think the description warrants a lot of look to. The GL and Bat books seemed more or less same ol', same ol', with just a handful of shake ups (Dick back as Nightwing, Batgirl), but this sounds like a radically different version of these characters. I wonder if maybe some of the freak out about total rebooting wasn't totally unjustified after all.

Yeah, it kind of sounds like Tim has never been Robin.

 

[Drz]

Yeah because a ordinary kid just decides to browse the internet and stop being on the keyboard when SUPER people are captured and this normal kid decides to LEAD them. Also i bet this means Kid Flash has no connection to Flash whatsoever. :P :P :P :P

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah because a ordinary kid just decides to browse the internet and stop being on the keyboard when SUPER people are captured and this normal kid decides to LEAD them. Also i bet this means Kid Flash has no connection to Flash whatsoever. :P :P :P :P

Okay...

Yeah, it kind of sounds like Tim has never been Robin.

Yeah, kind of picked up on that, plus Wonder Girl as a 'powerhouse thief' and Kid Flash as an 'unknown speedster'. It's possible those could be different character under the mantles, though, but I don't know. But then you have to question why change all of them but Tim Drake? It's just a brief description, granted, but it still seems hella different just from that.

 

[Drz]

Okay...

Theres a strong reason why Tim is a Red Robin and same applies for whoever is Kid Flash being Kid Flash. Theres no reason to chance Tim's Bat connection into... some athelete kid who decides to lead a group of superpowered teens?

 

[Cain]

Tim looks like Black Condor's jr. partner. SMH @ how horrendously 90's that cover is.

 

[Saint]

The description suggested to me that Tim had stepped out of the Robin role for some reason, not that he had never been Robin.

Incidentally, Lee and Didio said in the interview that all thwe characters have an existing history in the DCU, but some of them may be "Slightly different."

Kid Flash is obvious, because Flashpoint is all about the Flash and the Flash lately has been all about the timestream. I'm not surprised that his history is altered.

Wonder Girl is also obvious, because the history of Wonder Woman has already changed drastically.

So, it makes sense for Kid Flash and Wonder Girl to change while Tim (hopefully) doesn't.

 

[Doc Phosphorus]

There's not a single non-comic reader that's going to pass by that atrocity on the shelf and go "This looks like something worth buying."

This scheme is all over the place. Justice League, GL, even Aquaman, sure, might get some new readers. But stuff like this? I don't get it.

 

[Tron Bonne]

The description suggested to me that Tim had stepped out of the Robin role for some reason, not that he had never been Robin.

Incidentally, Lee and Didio said in the interview that all thwe characters have an existing history in the DCU, but some of them may be "Slightly different."

Kid Flash is obvious, because Flashpoint is all about the Flash and the Flash lately has been all about the timestream. I'm not surprised that his history is altered.

Wonder Girl is also obvious, because the history of Wonder Woman has already changed drastically.

So, it makes sense for Kid Flash and Wonder Girl to change while Tim (hopefully) doesn't.

Well, Wonder Woman's history is always in flux, but I assume you mean the whole Odyssey thing in that regard? That actually won't count from what Hester has said. Post-Flashpoint is suppose to be a new continuity from that, but yeah, I guess that works, too...

 

[Saint]

Well, Wonder Woman's history is always in flux, but I assume you mean the whole Odyssey thing in that regard? That actually won't count from what Hester has said. Post-Flashpoint is suppose to be a new continuity from that, but yeah, I guess that works, too...

Yeah, I was referring to Odyssey; but as you say, the effect is the same given that she'll probably have significant changes post-Flashpoint anyway.

Makes me wonder if Odyssey was a dry run for Flashpoint.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I don't really think it was ever clarified or anything, but my general impression is that Odyssey would have restored the regular canon while rectonning and adding stuff JMS thought it need. But, due to poor reception and lack of large sales increase, I think his stuff is more or less abandoned. Phil Hester had a Q&A thread, and he said something to the degree that post-Flashpoint was basically starting over an entirely separate status quo.

 

[Drz]

Scott Lodbell talks Red Hood and the EDIT: Outlaws, lol wrote Outsiders. ^^;

Newsarama: Scott, what attracted you to writing this trio?
Scott Lobdell: I am a big fan of redemption stories — and, above all else (the action, the drama, the splashes of humor) Red Hood and the Outlaws is the story of the redemptive power of friendship. Aside from a clearly dysfunctional relationship with Scarlet, Jason hasn't spent a panel since his return as Red Hood interacting with anyone that didn't fuel his overwhelming obsession to punish Batman or Joker or both or sometimes neither. That can't be healthy for the guy.
By putting him in the same orbit as Roy and Kori, two people who also have their own issues they've had trouble putting to bed, Jason immediately becomes a character who can move beyond being Formerly Known As Robin. He would never admit to having actual friends, no, but it is clear he sees a lot of himself in Roy and is in awe at Kori's ability to have escaped the shackles of her past in a way he never has... in ways he may never be able.
Honestly, who wouldn't want to write the next chapter in the life Jason Todd?
Nrama: What's the overall tone of this comic? Is it as dark as it sounds with the "outlaws" title and the presence of the Red Hood? Or is it more action or adventure oriented?
Lobdell: I don't really think of it as dark... but when you have a once dead guy relying on guns, a former addict guy on arrows and a one-time prisoner of war woman who is essentially a nuclear reactor with pretty much one power setting... certainly a lot of violence will ensue.
Since he crawled out of that grave, however, Jason hasn't done much mentally get out of that pine box: he hasn't left that "dark place." I'm looking forward to seeing him interact with other people that have nothing to do with his quest for vengeance or trying to kill his way through the Gotham City Yellow Pages of Crime.
While Roy has had his issues with drug abuse in the past, he's at a place now where — for better or for worse — his "off switch" is off. He'll tell you what he's thinking with the same aim for the heart he uses for his arrows.
And Kori...? She survived intergalactic death camps and now lives on a world trying to help aliens who — as a race — often confuse and confound her. Certainly, if the situation was reversed, and I was living on Tamara, I don't think I'd ever really feel at home.
So yeah, there are dark elements to the story, but if Jason and Roy and Kori aren't moving ahead, aren't slogging through the crappy hands they've been dealt, aren't trying to forge a future for themselves, then that is what I would consider "a dark book." But that's not what's happening here.

So it's Jason, Roy and Starfire trying to get more into a positive light and fight crime aswell, this is looking very intriquing and i'm giving it a shot, love Jason!

 

[Sawyer]

I still love Roy's trucker hat.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It seems like "Odyssey" was just an attempt to inject some excitement into Wonder Woman before editorial realized they were going to relaunch the whole DC universe. When they did, they probably just figured, "Why try something new? Let's just play this out to kill time 'til Flashpoint and the relaunch."

 

[Saint]

Scott Lodbell talks Red Hood and the Outsiders!



So it's Jason, Roy and Starfire trying to get more into a positive light and fight crime aswell, this is looking very intriquing and i'm giving it a shot, love Jason!

This sounds really exciting. I'm totally stoked to read a Jason Todd book in the hands of someone who sounds like he has interesting plans for the character.