OFFICIAL: Best CBM of 2014 thread (so far)

[Erzengel]

It is curious how much of X-Men, X-2, TLS, WO and TW is still in continuity.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

It is curious how much of X-Men, X-2, TLS, WO and TW is still in continuity.

I would basically just ignore anything that didn't happen in FC or DoFP.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

It is curious how much of X-Men, X-2, TLS, WO and TW is still in continuity.

Oh it's definitely all over the place now. Though they all still happened before the events ofDOFP, I think it's safe to assume Origins is pretty much out of any continuity in the future. Wolverine still save Yoshida's life in WW2 so some version of The Wolverine still happened. Some parts of X1 must have still happened as Wolverine and Rogue were at the mansion at the end. I'm willing to bet lots of X2 still happened as well seeing as Singer directed it.

 

[marvelrobbins]

We have had this same debate In X-Men forum

Just like Time travel In Star Trek 2009 did away with Star Trek except maybe Enterprise-save for horrable series finale time travel In DOFP did away with
other films except for first class except mayne previetnam parts of origins montage and WWII scenes of the wolverine.

The best way to view the X-Men films out of ones out on DVD/Blu-ray now In
my oporion are

1:First Class as Introuduction to characters including wolverine
2:Treat X-Men and X2 as two part story
3:Go Into Days of Future Past

This works best.Not perfect since wolverine killing dark phoenix is in memory flash In DOFP.And thenX-Men and X2 are films most likely to have some of events still happen but differently between 1973 and 2023.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Very close between DOFP and TWS now, think this could like the 2013 thread and go on until this time next year. Especially with a lack of CBM's in 2015 compared to recent years and the years to come.

 

[Daltonio]

Hey, at least I'm not the one and only vote for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 anymore

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Hey, at least I'm not the one and only vote for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 anymore

Nope, you are one of an elite few now .

For what its worth, I didnt think TASM2 was as bad as many make out, but it had glaring problems, and was unfortunate to come out in a year that had 3 other spectacular CBMs.

 

[Killer]

The Amazing Spiderman 2 gets a lot of criticism, and a lot of it is deserved. I really don´t think it was a very good movie. But one thing i can say: Neither TWS or DOFP put me on the edge of my sit like The Amazing Spider Man 2 did in the scene where Spiderman was fighting the GG and trying to save Gwen at the same time. That was awesome to watch.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The Amazing Spiderman 2 gets a lot of criticism, and a lot of it is deserved. I really don´t think it was a very good movie. But one thing i can say: Neither TWS or DOFP put me on the edge of my sit like The Amazing Spider Man 2 did in the scene where Spiderman was fighting the GG and trying to save Gwen at the same time. That was awesome to watch.

In fairness I cant agree, I was on the edge of my seat a lot of times during TWS, DOFP and GOTG. TASM2 did do it at the end, but as a Spidey fan I knew what was coming. It would have been nice if the movie had tried to mask what was going to happen to Gwen, but right from the opening moments it was obvious she was going to die.

 

[Killer]

In fairness I cant agree, I was on the edge of my seat a lot of times during TWS, DOFP and GOTG. TASM2 did do it at the end, but as a Spidey fan I knew what was coming. It would have been nice if the movie had tried to mask what was going to happen to Gwen, but right from the opening moments it was obvious she was going to die.

Yes, but i wasn´t 100% sure, so, from the perspective of someone who didn´t know, it was awesome and very emotional at the same time. To me, the movie did a lot of stuff wrong, but what it did good, it did it better than any other movie.

Oh, and i think TWS, DOFP and GOTG are all pretty overrated. None of them surprised me on any level. Not to say they were bad, but reading all the amazing reviews i was definitely expecting something better on all levels. Especially with TWS and GOTG.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The Amazing Spiderman 2 gets a lot of criticism, and a lot of it is deserved. I really don´t think it was a very good movie. But one thing i can say: Neither TWS or DOFP put me on the edge of my sit like The Amazing Spider Man 2 did in the scene where Spiderman was fighting the GG and trying to save Gwen at the same time. That was awesome to watch.

For me, it wasn't. The build up to the scene was awful, and once Gwen dies, the movie sort of stops. The fight between GG and Peter is short. It would have been 100 times better if they kept fighting after Gwen was dead. Also, Gwen's death ultimately leads to Peter moping for about 5 minutes of screen time and quickly getting over it. It just doesn't feel like it has a lasting impact, and the story all through out the film is just overall sloppy. Also, the web becoming a hand was super corny.

 

[Killer]

For me, it wasn't. The build up to the scene was awful, and once Gwen dies, the movie sort of stops. The fight between GG and Peter is short. It would have been 100 times better if they kept fighting after Gwen was dead. Also, Gwen's death ultimately leads to Peter moping for about 5 minutes of screen time and quickly getting over it. It just doesn't feel like it has a lasting impact, and the story all through out the film is just overall sloppy. Also, the web becoming a hand was super corny.

Those 5 minutes of moping were, in my opinion, very well constructed and more emotional than anything i saw in TWS or GOTG. The fight between GG and Peter is short, but more movies could learn from that. Even TASM2 itself. Long action scenes bore me to death. The last act in GOTG is basically just ships flying, things exploding, colorful lasers being shot all over the place, loud and lazy generic action and a big royal mess that goes on for i don´t know how long. Unfortunately, these words could be used to describe 90% of the CB movies. Generic action with no substance.

As far as the "lasting impact" goes, this is actually the only film in a long time starring Marvel characters that actually had any kind of impact on me. And that´s something, since i´m not a Marvel fan at all. They fail to make me feel anything every single time.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

For me, it wasn't. The build up to the scene was awful, and once Gwen dies, the movie sort of stops. The fight between GG and Peter is short. It would have been 100 times better if they kept fighting after Gwen was dead. Also, Gwen's death ultimately leads to Peter moping for about 5 minutes of screen time and quickly getting over it. It just doesn't feel like it has a lasting impact, and the story all through out the film is just overall sloppy. Also, the web becoming a hand was super corny.

"I'm with you till the end of the line" had more heart than both ASM movies combined imo.

 

[Killer]

"I'm with you till the end of the line" had more heart than both ASM movies combined imo.

Yeah, for sure. The friendship between Captain America and a shockingly underdeveloped and forgetable character was very emotional...NOT.

BTW, GOTG´s humour was so dumb and juvenile that i was shocked that so many people loved it. People are truly content with mediocrity. For some reason, movies with cheesy one liners and characters acting as dumb as they can be are viewed as "great humour". I guess anything sounds funnier when is coming out of the mouth of a CB character, even if it´s the kind of easy and predictable humour you can find on internet forums on a daily basis. That´s the only explanation can find.

I miss comedies with some wit to it.

 

[Tony Stark]

Yeah, for sure. The friendship between Captain America and a shockingly underdeveloped and forgetable character was very emotional...NOT.

BTW, GOTG´s humour was so dumb and juvenile that i was shocked that so many people loved it. People are truly content with mediocrity. For some reason, movies with cheesy one liners and characters acting as dumb as they can be are viewed as "great humour". I guess anything sounds funnier when is coming out of the mouth of a CB character, even if it´s the kind of easy and predictable humour you can find on internet forums on a daily basis. That´s the only explanation can find.

I miss comedies with some wit to it.

Wow! It's pretty clear you're here just to troll, isn't it?

 

[Tony Stark]

For me, it wasn't. The build up to the scene was awful, and once Gwen dies, the movie sort of stops. The fight between GG and Peter is short. It would have been 100 times better if they kept fighting after Gwen was dead. Also, Gwen's death ultimately leads to Peter moping for about 5 minutes of screen time and quickly getting over it. It just doesn't feel like it has a lasting impact, and the story all through out the film is just overall sloppy. Also, the web becoming a hand was super corny.

Agreed. For a seminal moment in comic book lore, the movie transcription falls dead. It was as if everyone knew it was coming, everyone saw the writing on the wall, and we were walked through it like a play by play.

Also lost in the movie interpretation was the fact that in the comics it was Spider-man's actions that possibly caused her death. In the comics, she would have fallen into the East River, and perhaps survived, but Spidey's webbing caused her neck to snap. In the movie, she either dies from hitting the floor, or dies from the whiplash effect. There's no second guessing for Peter, because if he didn't act she would have surely been dead, in the comics, he has to wonder if he rescued her from the water, she might have survived.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Those 5 minutes of moping were, in my opinion, very well constructed and more emotional than anything i saw in TWS or GOTG. The fight between GG and Peter is short, but more movies could learn from that. Even TASM2 itself. Long action scenes bore me to death. The last act in GOTG is basically just ships flying, things exploding, colorful lasers being shot all over the place, loud and lazy generic action and a big royal mess that goes on for i don´t know how long. Unfortunately, these words could be used to describe 90% of the CB movies. Generic action with no substance.

As far as the "lasting impact" goes, this is actually the only film in a long time starring Marvel characters that actually had any kind of impact on me. And that´s something, since i´m not a Marvel fan at all. They fail to make me feel anything every single time.

Different strokes for different folks. Life long fan of Spider-Man. That movie made me feel nothing but sadness for how bad Spider-Man films have become, and butchered one of Spider-Man's best stories. Say what you will about Steve's relationship with Bucky, I was 100% far more invested in that than Peter and Harry's 5 minutes of hanging out before he goes 100% insane. Now, THAT is rushed.

"I'm with you till the end of the line" had more heart than both ASM movies combined imo.

Easily more emotional than anything in the new Spider-Man films. That line gets me everytime.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I love the Goblin fight and Gwen's death scene, as goofy as the web hand is, I loved that bit too.
One of my favorite scenes in the movie.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Yeah, for sure. The friendship between Captain America and a shockingly underdeveloped and forgetable character was very emotional...NOT.

More emotional than a bland cgi-cartoon like ASM2. Enjoy your 53% on Rotten Tomatoes though, champ.

Wow! It's pretty clear you're here just to troll, isn't it?

They're crawling out of the woodwork these days.

Peter and Harry's 5 minutes of hanging out before he goes 100% insane. Now, THAT is rushed.

Spot on. And Bucky is the underdeveloped one. Please.

 

[Killer]

Different strokes for different folks. Life long fan of Spider-Man. That movie made me feel nothing but sadness for how bad Spider-Man films have become, and butchered one of Spider-Man's best stories. Say what you will about Steve's relationship with Bucky, I was 100% far more invested in that than Peter and Harry's 5 minutes of hanging out before he goes 100% insane. Now, THAT is rushed.



Easily more emotional than anything in the new Spider-Man films. That line gets me everytime.

Exactly. Different strokes for different folks.

I also didn´t like Peter´s relationship with Harry. It was rushed like almost everything in the movie. I agree that the movie was weak in almost all aspects.

But Gwen still felt more important to the story and to the hero than Bucky. Bucky was a guy that was briefly in the TFA and briefly in TWS. I had to make an effort to remember his role in the first movie, while watching TWS, and my 2 friends didn´t even remeber him at all, despite having watched the movie just a week ago. That´s a testament on how forgetable the character is for someone who isn´t overly invested in the franchise. I doubt anyone can watch Gwen Stacy in the first TASM and have trouble remembering her in the second movie.

If you´re a huge fan of the MCU, i can see how it can mess with your feelings. But i don´t think it´s crazy to suggest that, overall, Gwen was a much better developed character, wich makes it easier to care about her than "Bucky". Also, Emma Stone is freaking charismatic and also a great actress. The actor and the character are as forgetable as you can get.

More emotional than a bland cgi-cartoon like ASM2. Enjoy your 53% on Rotten Tomatoes though, champ.



They're crawling out of the woodwork these days.

You don´t make much sense. And i don´t even know why you would bring up rotten tomatoes. It´s like you´re saying "i don´t really know how to defend my argument, so i´m just gonna bring up RT´s score".

I´m not even a TASM2 fanboy. I´m a TDK fanboy. Enjoy its RT score, that trashes your beloved Captain America, champ.

See? I can also play that game.

 

[The Joker]

I don't think there's a single moment of genuine tension in TASM 2.

 

[Killer]

I don't think there's a single moment of genuine tension in TASM 2.

For me there was. More tension than anything in TWS. But again, i didn´t know Gwen was going to die. At least i´m sure the movie had the ability to surprise the general audience. TWS failed in that aspect.

 

[marvelrobbins]

ASM2 is fairly weak film compared to WS and DOFP.And i say that as someone who loved first ASM film.I consider it mixed film.SOme of live action stuff i have seen of spider-man.And peter/gwen is great.It's the villains that are piss poor and bring it down.

I haven't seen GOTG and have no intention of ever seeing it so i can't comment.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I´m a TDK fanboy.

Only in a Nolan fanboys mind is 94 vs 89 "trashing". Try again.

Not surprising though the way you waltz in insulting people. You act just like one.

 

[Erzengel]

I was more moved by the Groot scene then the Gwen scene.