OFFICIAL: Best CBM of 2014 thread (so far)

Best CBM of 2014

  • 300: Rise Of An Empire

  • Captain America: The Winter Soldier

  • The Amazing Spiderman 2

  • X-Men: Days Of Future Past

  • Transformers: Age Of Extinction

  • Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

  • Sin City: A Dame To Kill For

  • Other.

  • Guardians Of The Galaxy


Results are only viewable after voting.
I just loved the fun quirky nature of GoTG, it was a breath of fresh air. I'd rate TWS and GoTG close, but I'm edging toward GoTG, only because it completely blew away my expectations, where I knew TWS was good, and I loved the way it was filmed and the edgy feel.

It's close for me but if I had to rank the films this year it would be...

1A) GoTG
1B) CA:TWS
2) Big Hero 6
3) X-men DOFP

TASM2 was my biggest disappointment. I thought it would be a notch up from TASM, and instead ended up being far worse. It's not completely terrible, but for me it's so flawed, I have a hard time watching it. Even though Spider-man 3 was uneven, corny and disappointing, I think it's a better movie than TASM2, even though I far prefer Garfield's performance to Maguire's in those films.

While DOFP is my number one CBM for this year, I agree about GOTG. It was something really different for Marvel and I loved how faithful it was to the comics as well. It had some very emotional moments and character work was excellent. For me GOTG is the best MCU movie so far. The more I watch it the more I enjoy it as well. It certainly has not lost any of its luster with me.
 
And they can debate and counter-argue them, wich is basically what pretty much everybody in this forum do, if you care to pay attention. I just don´t see them receiving "warnings" for doing it. I guess it has a lot to do with what movie you critique. I´ve come to the conclusion that you can´t "safely" critique any movie in this forum. Only some...

If i say that GL is a piece of garbage, nobody panics, because it´s all part of the plan. But if i say one small less favorable thing about TWS, well then everybody loses their minds!

You seriously need to read your posts before putting them up. Every single post you come off as combative, and when someone has an argument counter to yours, you make backhanded comments to tell them why they are wrong.
 
While DOFP is my number one CBM for this year, I agree about GOTG. It was something really different for Marvel and I loved how faithful it was to the comics as well. It had some very emotional moments and character work was excellent. For me GOTG is the best MCU movie so far. The more I watch it the more I enjoy it as well. It certainly has not lost any of its luster with me.

Agreed! I hope they continue taking chances like this with some of their future projects. I like the traditional MCU films, but having something contrasting to that, and other movies in the comic book genre, is very refreshing.
 
You seriously need to read your posts before putting them up. Every single post you come off as combative, and when someone has an argument counter to yours, you make backhanded comments to tell them why they are wrong.

Every single one of your posts to me comes off as combative. I´ve said it once, and i´m gonna repeat it: You´re just bothered because i go through all the trouble of explaining why movies like TWS are actually not that great. You don´t like that and you´re not used to that. But that´s just because you like those movies. If i was trashing TASM2, you wouldn´t make such comments about me.

You know, i´ve received private messages of people saying they like my posts. So i guess i´m not as harmful to the forum as you make it seem.
 
You can explain why you think TWS is not that great. Most people are not going to agree with you. So the question is, are you here to proselytize your opinion, or just state your opinion. It seems it's more the former than the latter.
 
You can explain why you think TWS is not that great. Most people are not going to agree with you. So the question is, are you here to proselytize your opinion, or just state your opinion. It seems it's more the former than the latter.

I´m here to give my opinion and discuss it if i see a reason to do it. Everytime i see someone talking bad about Iron Man, The Avengers, or any Marvel movie, you´re there defending those movies. I guess only you can do it, right? Only you can discuss with someone why The Avengers isn´t just a corny pop corn movie. Because, that´s actually what you do in this forum.
 
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I was going to ask why you think that, but I can see you've been banned...
 
So finally watched Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and it was as terrible as I expected.

So now that I've watched every single movie....

1. TWS
2. GOTG
3. DOFP
4. TASM2
5. 300
6. SC
7. T4
8. TMNT

And I can finally cast my vote. It's a steep drop off from 3 to 4.
 
207 posts, what was the over/under? Can't say he wasn't warned about it.
 
So finally watched Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and it was as terrible as I expected.

So now that I've watched every single movie....

1. TWS
2. GOTG
3. DOFP
4. TASM2
5. 300
6. SC
7. T4
8. TMNT

And I can finally cast my vote. It's a steep drop off from 3 to 4.


Your post made me realize, I completely forgot 300 ROAE came out this year. Is it out on Blu Ray yet? I have to watch that.
 
I was going to ask why you think that, but I can see you've been banned...

Good riddance. I wonder if whoever banned him sent him a private message telling him how much they like his posts. :whatever:

I bet this wasn't his first account.
 
Good riddance. I wonder if whoever banned him sent him a private message telling him how much they like his posts. :whatever:

I bet this wasn't his first account.

Couldn't have been. The way he was mouthing off to the mods seemed suspect; the guy clearly had an ax to grind.

My guess would be anno domini, but I'm probably way off.
 
Couldn't have been. The way he was mouthing off to the mods seemed suspect; the guy clearly had an ax to grind.

My guess would be anno domini, but I'm probably way off.

There are a lot of them. Hell I could name a dozen potentials easy, and that's just the ones I've personally encountered on here. Every one of these nooblets that starts throwing attitude around is suspect.
 
I had a ton of problems with the movie. The Harry/Peter friendship came out of nowhere, and his motivations for becoming the goblin and killing Gwen were paper thin. Also the goblin looked ridiculous; I thought they'd improve upon the goblin we got in SM1 but it was a huge step backwards. Electro was also incredibly cheesy with little to no motivation; I didn't buy his reasons for hating Spider-man. I couldn't tell if he was supposed to be a sympathetic character, a psychotic man unhinged that we are suppose to fear, or a mix of both.
In a lot of ways this was SM3 all over again; stuffed to the brim with stories and ideas and villains, with no real clear direction. You can tell from how many deleted scenes they had and how many unnecessary characters were there that there wasn't a solid direction for the movie to take.
The best parts of the movie were the Peter and Gwen scenes but that can only do so much to make up for the rest of the movie. The more I watch it the worse it gets.

I agree about the way goblin looked but I thought his story and motivation where handle very very while and I thought his and peters friendship felt real but they did need more screen time together but I don't think his motivations where paper thin at all. I do think electros where kind of paper thin though. Even though I have yet to hate a sm movie I found that sm3 had far far more problems and much bigger problems then this movie. I think a lot of things would have been improved just with a few extra sinces. I think most of the so called problems would have been complety eliminated or greatly improved with just a few small changes. The more I watch it the better it gets. There are a lot of movies I have loved or like with bad or so so reviews and a lot of movies I have thought where ok or hated with good reviews but I really mean it when I say I have never felt so confused by people about a movie. I fell like I saw a completely different movie then ever one else. If I saw the movie with out seeing the reviews first I would have thought the movie was like a 90 RT.
 
It's kind of hard to deny...the Peter/Harry story and the Electro background story ended up on the cutting room floor. They felt like they were missing because they were.
 
Now that I've seen all of the comic book movies, here's my movie by movie breakdown...from least favorite to favorite (not necessarily quality...just what I liked). I did not list Transformers 4 because this is a list focusing on movies based on comic books, so the Transformers franchise does not qualify.


12. Jailbait
This really doesn't deserve to be listed. Asylum (the makers of mockbusters like Transmorphers as well as Sharknado) has decided that they can rent more DVDs if they slap a "Based on the Graphic Novel" on the cover. So, they created Asylum Comics and rushed out a comic book shortly before the movie got released. Yeah, TECHNICALLY the comic was released first...but it wasn't "based" on it. This is a movie about a 17 year old (played by a 30 year old actress with tattoos and apparent breast implants) who kills her sexually abusive stepfather and goes to jail. In some ways this is an attempt to bring back prison sexploitation films, but there is no charm to this at all. No, this is pure trash. Outright garbage. One of the worst films of any genre this year. The script is such a shotgun blast that they can't even keep the characters acting consistent for the duration of a single scene, let alone throughout the film. I consider much of the plot flat out insulting to sexual assault victims.

11. Amazing Spider-Man 2
What a mess! I don't care about the Parker parents story...that has never been what drives Spider-Man. Electro seemed like he was pulled out of Batman & Robin's era of comic book movies. Much of the film was cut out (including a subplot involving Mary Jane Watson, and the story of Electro and his mom, and much of the Harry Osborne story, including stuff that was shown in the trailers), and it shows. It isn't that this is the worst movie ever made...it's that it should be EASY to make an awesome Spider-Man movie...and Sony screwed it up big time. It's a terrible movie that SHOULD kill this franchise before they can do more damage to the characters. The movie adapted one of the most important and beloved comic stories of all time, and ruined it, X-Men 3 style.

10. Sin City: A Dame to Kill For
Taking place before, during and after the first movie, this was more of the same. I spent most of the movie wondering why Marv was alive and trying to figure out the timeline. Frank Miller is way past his prime and shouldn't be encouraged. Everything that was cool about the first one is silly here. On the plus side, Eva Green is good, and I appreciate that they cast Julia Garner.

9. I, Frankenstein
Have you ever wanted to see Underworld, but without the hot British chick in tight leather? Well, this is the movie for you. Instead of vampires and werewolves, our hero is caught in a war between gargoyles and demons. There's something a bit odious about these movies that take Horror concepts and turn them into explosion-filled action adventure movies (like Dracula Untold). Plus, there was seemingly no thought or care put into making this. It's just a (failed) attempt to make money. Completely by the numbers without any depth or heart or even high quality effects to make it rise above mediocre. Even TMNT was fun to watch! Fortunately, this was a box office disaster. Ultimately though, this never had a chance to be good and its completely forgettable, and its that ability to be easily forgotten than prevents it from ranking any lower.

8. 300: Rise of an Empire
Taking place before, during and after the first movie, this was more of the same. All these years later though, we've seen that slow motion swords and sandals thing too many times in other films, so this movie is instantly forgettable and shouldn't exist. Also, Frank Miller is way past his prime and shouldn't be encouraged. On the plus side, Eva Green is good.

7. The Scribbler
A really, really cool idea that should have been handled better. The writer of the comic also wrote the script, and they maybe should have let someone else have a shot at it...someone who wasn't so close to the material and could see the flaws in the story. Also, while it does okay with the budget it had, a bigger budget could have made for cooler visuals. In a way, this movie reminded me of The Matrix. However, while The Matrix was a great movie with a great idea, this is a bad movie with a great idea.

6. X-Men: Days of Future Past
A movie that doesn't deserve the hype it got. It's basically Xavier nagging Mystique until she finally gets sick of it and gives up. BUT...the biggest issue with this film is that IT SHOWED THE FUTURE AT THE END. The entire point of this movie was to free us from the continuity of the previous films, and then in the end it tied this and all future movies to a new future that is set in stone. What a STUPID move that ruins a great deal of potential drama in X-movies that haven't even been made yet! Reshoots all but eliminated Rogue from the film, and gave her storyline to Kitty Pryde...which makes no sense. I could go on, but I'm getting angry. On the plus side, Quicksilver was cool...before disappearing because the script needed him to go away.

5. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
I had never seen a TMNT movie or any of the cartoons before. They just aren't my thing. Plus, I have a hard time telling them apart because not only do they all look very similar, their personalities seem too similar as well (which ended up not being a problem). I watched this...and it is STUPID. I mean, braindead. However, I laughed a few times at the jokes (mostly from the news van driver), and while I have no interest in a sequel, I don't hate that I spent time watching this piece of crap that I don't recommend to anyone. It never even tried to be a "good" movie, so I can't really fault it for not being very good. Unlike X-Men, the makers of this film went in with an agenda and accomplished that agenda.

4. Blue is the Warmest Color
Released overseas in 2013 but delayed to 2014 in the US, this fractured release probably cost the movie and its star Adèle Exarchopoulos at the Oscars. Exarchopoulos is amazing in this...the best female acting performance in the history of comic book films. This is the only comic book film to ever win the Palm D'or at the Cannes Film Festival, and for the first time ever at the festival, the award was given to the two stars in addition to the director. On the surface, its an almost pornographic look at a lesbian romance. But if you can get past that (and many can't), it's the story of a girl trying to figure out and accept who she is, and how people can be drawn together and torn apart by their differences. There are some brilliant character moments. Truth be told, this is possibly the BEST comic book movie EVER. However, this isn't a list of the best, it's a list of my personal favorites...and I prefer sci-fi action heroics over French language relationship dramas.

3. Guardians of the Galaxy
A fun homage to classic Sci-fi with a lot of heart, this movie introduces us to several characters who should be viewed in the coming decades the way we view the characters from Star Wars today. Groot, Nebula, Rocket and Drax are modern classics! A lot of people compare it to Star Wars or Firefly, but I felt it was closer to Flash Gordon. I guess it's a mix of all of the above, which...you know...equals total awesomeness. It's only real problem is that it failed to fully develop its villain. What should have come off as a Muslim extremist who refuses to end the war that his people have lost so many lives over came off closer to the shallowness of Malekith from Thor: The Dark World. But it was incredibly fun and had a lot of heart and a ton of cool visuals and characters.

2. Snowpiercer
Chris Evans stars in a story about literal class warfare. This is a HIGHLY political...really kind of an anarchistic...movie, dealing with how those who run the world pull ALL of the strings, and how true freedom is impossible while working within the structure of the system...but true freedom is also a risky option that could very well destroy the society we have. But on the surface, its about a world where an attempt to stop global warming has created an ice age, and whats left of humanity lives on a train that never stops circling the globe. This is one of the darkest, deepest sci-fi movies I've ever seen. Plus, while The Interview gets all the hype, this movie stomps all over the government of North Korea...it just isn't presented as two stoners being sent to kill the leader.

1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
With its blatant commentary against the policies of the US government's drone and domestic spy programs as well as the President's so-called "kill list," it does what a Captain America movie should do...use the character to point out what is great and not-so great about our country. The Winter Soldier (the character) created electricity every moment that he was on the screen and is already one of Marvel's coolest characters. However, I contend that Captain America is the true Winter Soldier. The original, real world Winter Soldiers fought for our country's independence under the harshest of conditions. We like to forget this part, but the war was not exactly the most popular idea...and our soldiers often were refused food and lodging even during a brutal winter season. The real Winter Soldiers were forced to eat their own shoes for sustenance. In that sense, the title takes on a double meaning. Captain America was a wanted man...considered an enemy...had nowhere to turn...and yet he refused to back down from his morality and mission, no matter what the cost to himself. On top of that, it's a darn good political thriller/action movie.
"These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman."- Thomas Paine (The Crisis).
 
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1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
With its blatant commentary against the policies of the US government's drone and domestic spy programs as well as the President's so-called "kill list," it does what a Captain America movie should do...use the character to point out what is great and not-so great about our country. The Winter Soldier (the character) created electricity every moment that he was on the screen and is already one of Marvel's coolest characters. However, I contend that Captain America is the true Winter Soldier. The original, real world Winter Soldiers fought for our country's independence under the harshest of conditions. We like to forget this part, but the war was not exactly the most popular idea...and our soldiers often were refused food and lodging even during a brutal winter season. The real Winter Soldiers were forced to eat their own shoes for sustenance. In that sense, the title takes on a double meaning. Captain America was a wanted man...considered an enemy...had nowhere to turn...and yet he refused to back down from his morality and mission, no matter what the cost to himself. On top of that, it's a darn good political thriller/action movie.
"These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman."- Thomas Paine (The Crisis).

I like that spin you mention regarding Cap as The Winter Soldier, The russo brothers mention that in their commentary of the film that as much as Bucky represented A physical Winter Solider (Cybernetic Super Soldier version of Captain America). The actual Winter soldier is Steve Rogers in terms of his Character's moral.

It's why his speech regarding freedom is so powerful.

"The price of freedom is high, always has been and it's a price I'm willing to pay! If I'm the only one, so be it. But I'm willing to bet I'm not."―Steve Rogers:cap:
 
I like that spin you mention regarding Cap as The Winter Soldier, The russo brothers mention that in their commentary of the film that as much as Bucky represented A physical Winter Solider (Cybernetic Super Soldier version of Captain America). The actual Winter soldier is Steve Rogers in terms of his Character's moral.

It's why his speech regarding freedom is so powerful.

"The price of freedom is high, always has been and it's a price I'm willing to pay! If I'm the only one, so be it. But I'm willing to bet I'm not."―Steve Rogers:cap:

Oh...wow...I need to check out that commentary! I am into that kind of stuff and always look for political type angles in sci-fi movies, but I didn't know that they flat out stated that this was their intent.
 
Good riddance. I wonder if whoever banned him sent him a private message telling him how much they like his posts. :whatever:

I bet this wasn't his first account.

Yeah I had a strong suspicion that he was a former banned user who created another avy. The way he was talking to C. Lee, he was either extremely ignorant or he had an axe to grind.

I don't mind these "movie x" vs "movie y" thread, but as I told him when he created the Batman Begins vs. Avengers it was specifically to proselytize people who didn't agree with him. Those kind of threads are never going to end well.
 
It's kind of hard to deny...the Peter/Harry story and the Electro background story ended up on the cutting room floor. They felt like they were missing because they were.

Again, just shows you what happens when you cram too many disconnected story lines.

Both TASM movies kill me because I think Garfield could have been THE Spider-man to remember, if not for the horrible script writing and terrible directing. I'm not super familiar with any of Webb's other work, but from the damage he did on these films, I don't know how anyone would want to hire him.
 
I doubt it was Webb so much as Sony executive meddling. They pretty clearly wanted a piece of the shared universe pie but were unwilling or unable to do the actual set-up required to pull it off.

Shame about Andrew too, he was pretty great.
 
Honestly, loved Garfield's Spider-Man, not his Peter Parker. I felt the Webb version of Parker was too much of a jerk and leaned far more jock than he did anything else. I didn't quite buy him as a genius, specifically in TASM2. Peter Parker should not need youtube to understand how a battery works. That rubbed me the wrong way, and so did things like Parker walking out blankly in traffic and causing an accident because he was lost in Gwen's eyes. Parker would never cause an accident like that, and that scene was mostly ad-libbed.
 
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