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First Avenger OFFICIAL: Chris Evans is Captain America

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After watching Ultimate Avengers the animated movie I really will admit that Chris Evans is growing on me. The look of the character and age of him in the cartoon movie was remotely young and he really does look like him to me only not as bulked up of course.
 
I seen some interviews with Chris where I could see muscle definition underneath the collared shirt he was wearing, and I thought he looked just about right for the roll. Captain America is no Hulk or even Power Man when it comes to strength and build. I mean sure Captain America is strong, but he is also super agile and I think of his body shape as being more in line with a gymnast's then a WWF wrestler's. He should have well defined muscles and not bulky muscles.

Surfer
 
I seen some interviews with Chris where I could see muscle definition underneath the collared shirt he was wearing, and I thought he looked just about right for the roll. Captain America is no Hulk or even Power Man when it comes to strength and build. I mean sure Captain America is strong, but he is also super agile and I think of his body shape as being more in line with a gymnast's then a WWF wrestler's. He should have well defined muscles and not bulky muscles.

Surfer


I agree with you but I was hoping he'd gain about 15 pounds for the role but maybe they'll have him gain weight for the post serum stuff and they wanted to just show skinnier Steve.

Part of me wants to see a cgi or super-imposed skinnier Steve.
 
I agree with you but I was hoping he'd gain about 15 pounds for the role but maybe they'll have him gain weight for the post serum stuff and they wanted to just show skinnier Steve.

Part of me wants to see a cgi or super-imposed skinnier Steve.

They could probably use a special effect similar to what they did in Benjamin Button (making Brad Pitt appear younger and older), except instead using that same technology to make Chris look skinnier.

Surfer
 
they're making chris wear a body suit, so you'll see a before and after the serum change for him
 
The bodysuit, is just your standard hero bodysuit to fill him out while in costume, like the one he wore in fantastic four. I think I remember them saying they were gonna use technology to shrink Evans down for pre-SSS Steve. (process similar to what they used to make Xavier and Magneto look younger, perhaps) His size is fine. Just 'air brush his body a bit to look 'imposibly defined' in the shirtless scenes, like they did with Blonsky in Hulk, and we should be gold.
 
I seen some interviews with Chris where I could see muscle definition underneath the collared shirt he was wearing, and I thought he looked just about right for the roll. Captain America is no Hulk or even Power Man when it comes to strength and build. I mean sure Captain America is strong, but he is also super agile and I think of his body shape as being more in line with a gymnast's then a WWF wrestler's. He should have well defined muscles and not bulky muscles.

Surfer

I think what people forget is that if you reference his vital stats, Cap is 6'2" and weighs 240. That is actually the typical WWF type of build. I don't know how tall Evans is but even bulked up, I can't imagine he is much more than 200lbs. The reality is, none of us fanboys will ever truly be satisfied. Spider-Man is 5'10" and weighs 165. Did he look like on screen? Nope. Tony Stark is around 6'2" and weighs 210lbs. On screen....nope. Thor....6'6" and 650lbs. Ugh...not seeing that either. I knew regardless of who they casted, we were not going to see the Steve Rogers from the pages. All I care about is can they do the character justice. Can Evans be Steve Rogers. Time will tell. From a nobility perspective, he is to Marvel what Superman is to DC. Evans was the perfect Human Torch because he is a funny guy. Cap is not a funny guy.
 
Evans was the perfect Human Torch because he is a funny guy. Cap is not a funny guy.

To be fair, that's why it's called acting. The role of Human Torch required a funny performance and that is the side of Evans' personality that was brought out. For Captain America I'm sure he's going to draw inspiration from other places within himself. That's what makes a good actor.
 
I think what people forget is that if you reference his vital stats, Cap is 6'2" and weighs 240. That is actually the typical WWF type of build. I don't know how tall Evans is but even bulked up, I can't imagine he is much more than 200lbs. The reality is, none of us fanboys will ever truly be satisfied. Spider-Man is 5'10" and weighs 165. Did he look like on screen? Nope. Tony Stark is around 6'2" and weighs 210lbs. On screen....nope. Thor....6'6" and 650lbs. Ugh...not seeing that either. I knew regardless of who they casted, we were not going to see the Steve Rogers from the pages. All I care about is can they do the character justice. Can Evans be Steve Rogers. Time will tell. From a nobility perspective, he is to Marvel what Superman is to DC. Evans was the perfect Human Torch because he is a funny guy. Cap is not a funny guy.

See, I'm the type of geek that subscribes to the ol' Marvel No Prize way of rationalizing stuff. When it comes to Cap, yes, stats say he's anywhere from 220 to 240. And that is absofruitly what a common 'pro wrestler' is at. But i'll use my 'No Prize' comics logic and correct the inconsistancy to say that the Serum maximizes the effectiveness and strength of his muscles and tissues and thereby renders them much denser than that of a nomal man his height and somewhat coresponding build. Boom:The character wieghs 240 whilst looking like a gymnast. (asgardians are actually said to have denser tissue in the comics, explaining some of their quarter tonnage weight)
I've explained it to myself. I'm happy. Now let's hope Evans channels and refines what he had in Sunshine, and we'll be square. :)
 
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See, I'm the type of geek that subscribes to the ol' Marvel No Prize way of rationalizing stuff. When it comes to Cap, yes, stats say he's anywhere from 220 to 240. And that is absofruitly what a common 'pro wrestler' is at. But i'll use my 'No Prize' comics logic and correct the inconsistancy to say that the Serum maximizes the effectiveness and strength of his muscles and tissues and thereby renders them much denser than that of a nomal man his height and somewhat coresponding build. Boom:The character wieghs 240 whilst looking like a gymnast. (asgardians are actually said to have denser tissue in the comics, explaining some of their quarter tonnage weight)
I've explained it to myself. I'm happy. Now let's hope Evans channels and refines what he had in Sunshine, and we'll be square. :)

Excellent point! I totally forgot that the Asgardians have denser tissue. Sif does not look anywhere near the 450lbs or whatever she weighs. Like I said, I more concerned that Evans can channel Cap than if he looks likes a powerlifter.
 
To be fair, that's why it's called acting. The role of Human Torch required a funny performance and that is the side of Evans' personality that was brought out. For Captain America I'm sure he's going to draw inspiration from other places within himself. That's what makes a good actor.

I agree with you 100%. The Human Torch was only one of many rolls Chris has played, and to be honest it was probably about the only movie I saw him play, where I felt he was given somewhat of a comedic role. I think Chris is fully capable of doing Captain America justice, by playing him in a heroic and noble manner, but only time will tell.

Surfer
 
To be fair, that's why it's called acting. The role of Human Torch required a funny performance and that is the side of Evans' personality that was brought out. For Captain America I'm sure he's going to draw inspiration from other places within himself. That's what makes a good actor.

I don't know what goes through people's heads who think just because he played a funny guy in the FF films means he will act exactly the same as Cap. :huh:

People, it's freaking acting. :huh::huh:
 
Yeah, Evans is more than just your typical comic relief actor. Anyone who says otherwise is selling the guy short imo.
 
Thor....6'6" and 650lbs. Ugh...not seeing that either.


Exactly! What is written on the pages can have comic book explanations to give the numbers validity (such as dense tissue), but in life these numbers would make no sense. A Thor at 650 lbs would not look muscular, but more like the blob from the comics, as there is no way to get a human body muscular enough to equal 650 lbs of muscle weight. The same can be said to be true with Captain America to a lesser degree. If he weighs 240 lbs in the Comics, but his build in real life suggests 200 lbs, the comics can have the suspension of disbelief, by allowing people to believe the serum responsible for the muscular change in his body can also somehow be responsible for his weight differential. In my opinon one of the great things about comics is they don't always have to spell out everything for the reader, the reader can use their imagination to fill in the gaps. However, with all that said, I don't think people are going to be looking that closely at the weight issue as much as how the character comes across on the screen.

Surfer
 
I don't know what goes through people's heads who think just because he played a funny guy in the FF films means he will act exactly the same as Cap. :huh:

People, it's freaking acting. :huh::huh:

There are all kinds of actors. There are chameleons like Johnny Depp for instance who completely lose themselves in a part. And then there are people like Keanu Reeves who plays the same guy every single time, but with different lines. But there's something so genuine and nice about Keanu that I think even though people acknowledge he can't "act", they still like him.

For superhero roles I believe you need somebody who is in the middle. You can't have an 'acteur' because this ain't Shakespeare. An overtly dramatic actor would stifle the fun and joy of playing a superhero, like I think Val Kilmer did in Batman Forever. And you really need him to be likeable and genuine. That's why Chris Evans is a perfect fit.

And as a side note, chameleons are always better at playing villains which is why usually the villain steals the show. Those actors have the ability to play somebody completely detached from humanity.
 
Actually, if you look at Evans's body of work, he plays for the most part a somewhat funny or sarcastic guy. I haven't seen all his movies but from what I have seen, that's what I took away from them. I will be curious to see also how Ryan Reynolds pulls off Hal Jordan. Can Van Wilder pull off GL? We'll see.

Bottom line: I like Chris Evans a lot and I think there will be some classic banter between him and RDJ in The Avengers. I especially think RDJ is going to give CH (Thor) the business and really bust his chops.
 
And while he was funny in London, he was definitely not the "funny guy". Or The Perfect score for that matter.
 
Why on earth would he not go blonde?
The idea was that he was the Aryan ideal, yet he opposed them on every front.

It's kind of a visual distinction for the character. Helps separate him from Batman and Superman and Iron-Man and every other freaking super hero who all seem to have black hair.

I know some will see it as nit-picking, and for me it's not a 'deal breaker' if they don't make him blonde, but I'm with you on this.

It's not just because the character is blonde, it's because in not having him blonde you lose the irony of him being everything Hitler wants his own master race to be, and Cap utterly despises everything Hitler represents. A scene with the Skull pulling of Cap's mask and realising that would be great.

It would a shame if they pass that up for the lack of using a simple bottle of dye.
 
Exactly! What is written on the pages can have comic book explanations to give the numbers validity (such as dense tissue), but in life these numbers would make no sense. A Thor at 650 lbs would not look muscular, but more like the blob from the comics, as there is no way to get a human body muscular enough to equal 650 lbs of muscle weight. The same can be said to be true with Captain America to a lesser degree. If he weighs 240 lbs in the Comics, but his build in real life suggests 200 lbs, the comics can have the suspension of disbelief, by allowing people to believe the serum responsible for the muscular change in his body can also somehow be responsible for his weight differential. In my opinon one of the great things about comics is they don't always have to spell out everything for the reader, the reader can use their imagination to fill in the gaps. However, with all that said, I don't think people are going to be looking that closely at the weight issue as much as how the character comes across on the screen.

Surfer

With Thor he isn't human, so we can just assume his muscle simply isn't made of the same stuff that ours is (nor could it be for him to possess strength on a par with The Hulk) that's the easy get around with the high weight Vs lack of physical mass in his case. The 'matter' he made of is simply denser, and as he is technically from another dimension, it need not even be elements we know to exist in ours, and are common place in organic life forms here (ie; carbon, water, salt, etc).

With Cap it's different, his muscle and mass/weight should match human parameters. As he is usually drawn in the books I'd put him around the 200lb mark.
As Rob Lefield draws him, his chest alone is 200lbs..:cwink:
 
I hope we don't get into a debate on the hair color of Rogers when we do find out if he does or doesn't end up with the blonde hair. But I think that will happen. Then all of these lengthy debates will go on. All about hair color?

But if he has the wrong hair color the movie is ruined!!! :cmad:

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People will think so. It will have an even bigger response than the wings. Because it destroys his perfect image. I'd prefer for him to have the hair, but if not, oh well.
 
People will think so. It will have an even bigger response than the wings. Because it destroys his perfect image. I'd prefer for him to have the hair, but if not, oh well.

I do admit that it would take a bit away from the irony of Hitler and the nazis fighting 'the perfect human being' with blonde hair and blue eyes.
 
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