Comics Official CYCLOPS Discussion Thread

[psylockolussus]

Bring back his powers!

 

[UraniaChang]

There's no doubt about his powers coming back, I'm hoping the glasses come back as well.

 

[UraniaChang]

Which is exactly why he'd lose all respect for Cyke when he cheated on her. Plus he'd also be pissed that Scott had the one woman he wanted more than any other, but threw her aside for Emma.

Like Wolverine's opinion matters in that particular issue? Scott and Jean had problems in their relationship long before Scott's affair with Emma, and Logan happened to be one of the problems, I don't see why Scott has to be perfect for Jean when she is most certainly not for him.

Scott's personal life is none of Logan's business.

Wolverine is a member of the X-men's family. He wouldn't leave just because he thought Cyclops was an *******.

Of course he wouldn't leave, just like Scott wouldn't blast him into obvilion for trailing behind Jean's ass all these years.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Scott's personal life is none of Logan's business.

Eh. Still, it's Jeannie and Wolvie is kinda *known* for having a soft/blind spot for her. t:

It's just too funny, really, how everyone seem to think Cyke is some worthless scumbag who betrayed is wife while she was recuperating from cancer surgery or something.

Apparently, Jean dying meant it was a big no-no for anyone but "Treacherous Scott" and "b**ch* Emma" to remember that Scott/Jean wouldn't touch one another and barely talked if at all in those last months. Which, ya know, sort of qualifies as 'heading straight for a divorce'.

 

[D-scythe]

Apparently, Jean dying meant it was a big no-no for anyone but "Treacherous Scott" and "***** Emma" to remember that Scott/Jean wouldn't touch one another and barely talked if at all in those last months. Which, ya know, sort of qualifies as 'heading straight for a divorce'.

Morrison anyone? Pre-Apocalypse Cyke kicked ass, but then all of a sudden he goes through this "personality change," and now everyone's trying to make him badass. Like he has to be more like Logan to be cool.

 

[UraniaChang]

Eh. Still, it's Jeannie and Wolvie is kinda *known* for having a soft/blind spot for her. t:

It's just too funny, really, how everyone seem to think Cyke is some worthless scumbag who betrayed is wife while she was recuperating from cancer surgery or something.

Then his 'blind spot' must be as big as the Pacific Ocean.

Never understand why there are some people use double standard regarding Scott and Jean. It's not like she was the wife she was supposed to be be and helped her husband, no, she just backed off and tried to seek harbor in Logan's arms. And everyone just turned their heads and pretended they didn't see anything when she was embroiled with another man.

 

[Canemacar]

Then his 'blind spot' must be as big as the Pacific Ocean.

Never understand why there are some people use double standard regarding Scott and Jean. It's not like she was the wife she was supposed to be be and helped her husband, no, she just backed off and tried to seek harbor in Logan's arms. And everyone just turned their heads and pretended they didn't see anything when she was embroiled with another man.

Believe me. It's not just Jean and Scott that this happens to. Rogue has chased after every single guy who could touch her, but no one ever seems to acknowledge that or the time she slept with Colossus.

 

[Havok83]

Believe me. It's not just Jean and Scott that this happens to. Rogue has chased after every single guy who could touch her, but no one ever seems to acknowledge that or the time she slept with Colossus.

when did she sleep with Colossus?

 

[Canemacar]

Shortly after Claremont returned to the books.

 

[Coldqueen]

It's never confirmed that she slept with Colossus...hell, I don't even remember the insinuation. At most, they flirted and had a kiss. AT MOST.

GIVE ME PROOF, CANCAN. You keep SAYING this, but you never back it up.

 

[Canemacar]

Around what issue did Rogue discover she could touch Colossus? If someone could remind me, I could go search back issues.

And yes, she definitely slept with him. Claremont was setting up a major love-triangle, but his plans were canned when he got shifted to another title or something.

 

[Havok83]

Shortly after Claremont returned to the books.

okay I thought that was what you might have been referring too. Rogue was seen kissing Colossus in his armored form. It dont beleive it was stated that they slept together let alone that they were even a couple.

 

[Havok83]

Around what issue did Rogue discover she could touch Colossus? If someone could remind me, I could go search back issues.

And yes, she definitely slept with him. Claremont was setting up a major love-triangle, but his plans were canned when he got shifted to another title or something.

X-men 100. That was the first time they ever touched in any romantic way and Rogue was shocked that he could do so without being hurt. I dont recall them doing any flirting or anything like this besides that one issue. They defiently didnt have sex here

 

[Canemacar]

okay I thought that was what you might have been referring too. Rogue was seen kissing Colossus in his armored form. It dont beleive it was stated that they slept together let alone that they were even a couple.

I found the scene. Right after they discover she could touch him, Colossus says, "Perhaps we should touch again to make certain there is no mistake."

The next scene has Colossus leaving, and he looks horribly embarrassed. He couldn't look Kitty in the eye. Then, later it shows that Colossus had been sketching Rogue (and he has a history of sketching women naked, Psylocke for example).

They obviously did it.

 

[Coldqueen]

Well...it's obvious only to you.

I go look it up...

 

[Canemacar]

It's issue 100 of Adjectiveless. I'm telling you, they did it.


Bow chicka bow wow.

 

[Coldqueen]

...OH I JUST LOOKED AND THEY DID NOT.

There is no implication at ALL of that. Piotr is embarrassed and won't look Kitty in the eye because she's having a fit of some sort over him wanting to remain thinking she's a child and she doesn't want to be a child to him anymore. That's just BS, CanCan. BS.

There is absolutely NO indication that it happened. Hell, Rogue is UPSET over Gambit leaving when this supposedly happens.

Give me CONCRETE proof. Give me an issue and conversation where it's said that they DID IT. LOL. All other X-dalliances are revealed and confirmed, why has this one never been? WHY? Cause it didn't happen.

 

[Havok83]

I found the scene. Right after they discover she could touch him, Colossus says, "Perhaps we should touch again to make certain there is no mistake."

The next scene has Colossus leaving, and he looks horribly embarrassed. He couldn't look Kitty in the eye. Then, later it shows that Colossus had been sketching Rogue (and he has a history of sketching women naked, Psylocke for example).

They obviously did it.

oh god, I dont know where you get sex out of that. He was sketching Rogue FULLY clothed. She was wearing the same clothes she had on when they kissed. As far as a history of sketching naked women, that had nothing to do with sex, but art. Doesnt matter since Rogue wasnt nakedhere.

Besides how does he have sex while powered up? Dont mean to get all biological, but its not like he'd be getitng any pleasure out of it, nor do I see it being too comfortable for Rogue, if they could even connect

 

[Canemacar]

Give me CONCRETE proof. Give me an issue and conversation where it's said that they DID IT. LOL. All other X-dalliances are revealed and confirmed, why has this one never been? WHY? Cause it didn't happen.

No they are not. A great many of them have been only alluded to. This is one of them. Honestly, what else could be implied? Colossus gives a line about touching her, they kiss passionately, then there's a cut away. That's been used in countless comics and movies to signify sex.

oh god, I dont know where you get sex out of that. He was sketching Rogue FULLY clothed. She was wearing the same clothes she had on when they kissed. As far as a history of sketching naked women, that had nothing to do with sex, but art. Doesnt matter since Rogue wasnt nakedhere.

Psylocke was clothed when they depicted him and her together, but it was still made clear that he sketches her nude. Comics code and all.

Besides how does he have sex while powered up? Dont mean to get all biological, but its not like he'd be getitng any pleasure out of it, nor do I see it being too comfortable for Rogue, if they could even connect

Well, Colossus *can* feel in metal form, he just has a much higher tolerance/durability which allows him to withstand things better. It's not like he's never called out in pain in metal form before.

And since Rogue has her Ms/ Marvel powers at this time, she'd be "durable" enough to not be harmed.

 

[Havok83]

No they are not. A great many of them have been only alluded to. This is one of them. Honestly, what else could be implied? Colossus gives a line about touching her, they kiss passionately, then there's a cut away. That's been used in countless comics and movies to signify sex.

yeah and usually we either see the two people talking about the so called sex or we see them right after it happens in bed or getting dressed. That didnt happen here. There was no implied sex

 

[Coldqueen]

I agree with Havok. There's usually SOME indication that it at least occured. Just kissing and cutting away does not imply sex.

Are you also saying the Rogue and Wolverine had sex in Golgatha? The same thing happened there, with them kissing and it cutting away.

 

[Canemacar]

yeah and usually we either see the two people talking about the so called sex or we see them right after it happens in bed or getting dressed. That didnt happen here. There was no implied sex

Claremont didn't get a chance to get around to it. Editorial killed the plotline after this issue. I even have a quote from the man complaining about how it was ruined by fan reaction.

There is no implication at ALL of that. Piotr is embarrassed and won't look Kitty in the eye because she's having a fit of some sort over him wanting to remain thinking she's a child and she doesn't want to be a child to him anymore. That's just BS, CanCan. BS.

He'd be fine looking her in the face if that was all. They've had spats before and he's looked her in the face, this time it was something else.

There is absolutely NO indication that it happened. Hell, Rogue is UPSET over Gambit leaving when this supposedly happens.[/quote]

She was also "upset" over Gambit when she started hanging out with Joseph, Pulse, Iceman, Magneto, and that ghost-guy. She has a pattern of behavior here and you can't deny it.

 

[Coldqueen]

I DENY IT!!!

I maintain...having seen what you've seen...

That they did not have sex.

We're just interpretting it differently.

Hell, every bio I've ever read of either of these two characters hasn't even mentioned this.

 

[Havok83]

Psylocke was clothed when they depicted him and her together, but it was still made clear that he sketches her nude. Comics code and all.

She was nude with barely a sheet covering her. Compare that to Rogue who was fully seen dressed in clothing

Well, Colossus *can* feel in metal form, he just has a much higher tolerance/durability which allows him to withstand things better. It's not like he's never called out in pain in metal form before.

He becomes steel. Im not sure if he'd be able to orgasm while in that form. I jsut cant picture him getting the right kind of sensation in that form than if he were in flesh form

And since Rogue has her Ms/ Marvel powers at this time, she'd be "durable" enough to not be harmed.[/quote]
Colossus grows. Im not sure he'd "fit" so to speak. Durable or not, heavy steel being thrust about her, cant be all that comfortable. She can do that herself...lol

 

[Canemacar]

Hell, every bio I've ever read of either of these two characters hasn't even mentioned this.

I don't expect them to; it was only briefly mentioned because the plot was killed before it could come to fruition like a lot of Claremont's plots since he's returned. I know Rogue's your favorite, but come on. The guy who *created* Rogue wrote a scene with fairly obvious insinuations with the intention of creating a big love-triangle.