Official Polaris Thread

Discussion in 'The Comics' started by insane polaris, Feb 28, 2008.

  1. insane polaris

    insane polaris Well-Known Member

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    This can be used to talk about anything Polaris!!
    To start off a topic...

    "Does any1 think Polaris is under used"

    she appears in comics, shes currently in space but she never seems to be pushed into the limelight that much.

    so what does everyone think of the second lady of the x-men?

    does she deserve some light
    or are you happy with her in the background?
     
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  2. Valechan

    Valechan Well-Known Member

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    I love Lorna, I've always had. She had more of a spotlight when she was in X-Factor, she so totally deserves more focus on the main titles. Now that she is free of the "crazy" she should be on the X-Men, although a monthly Starjammers ongoing doesn't sound bad at all...
     
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  3. Supernature

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    I never thought her character was very interesting
    she's sort of bland. I think she was meant to be a side order, not a main character

    just saying
     
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  4. Canemacar

    Canemacar Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, Lorna's always been more of a space-filler than anything else. Same with Havok.
     
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  5. HandOfFate

    HandOfFate Well-Known Member

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    Gotta agree with Vale.:woot:
     
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  6. Havok83

    Havok83 Well-Known Member

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    I like Lorna but she always seemed like Jean-light. I wish they'd use her more bc she has potential as an A-lister
     
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  7. Harlekin

    Harlekin Business

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    I was more of a Polaris fan while she was possessed by Malice.
     
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  8. Havok83

    Havok83 Well-Known Member

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    except that wasnt Polaris. The costume and hair (which she kept after Malice) were just horrible. Lorna was at her best when she joined X-factor. The one thing I hate about Lorna is that she can never stand on her own two feet without having to lean on a man. Whether it be, Havok, Iceman, Magneto, etc... She seems to fall apart and go crazy when left alone
     
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  9. Harlekin

    Harlekin Business

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    That says enough then, doesn't it? :p

    I don't really dislike Polaris, although I have no special fondness for her. PAD's version is undoubtedly my favourite of her though.
     
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  10. Havok83

    Havok83 Well-Known Member

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    That was the definitive version of her and the only one worth taking seriously. She's been a mess for the most part written by most writers. I would have to say her recent stint with the Starjammers was the best we've seen of her since the mid 90s
     
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  11. DarthCyclopsRLZ

    DarthCyclopsRLZ Well-Known Member

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    I want it on the record that Lorna must have the coolest superHEROINE name EVAH.
     
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  12. Arkady Rossovich

    Arkady Rossovich Well-Known Member

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    Little known fact..is that Polaris was not created by Chris Claremont.
     
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  13. OutcryX

    OutcryX Well-Known Member

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    um...duh..she was out YEARS..DECADES before Claremont even came to the book..both her and Havok (and Mimic) were the first generation of second generation X-Men
     
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  14. Havok83

    Havok83 Well-Known Member

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    how is htat a little known fact? She was created back in the 60s and was around with the original X-men. Its common knowledge that CC came on the book right after the Krakoa incident which Polaris was already an X-men for quite some time
     
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  15. jmc247

    jmc247 Well-Known Member

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    She is only bland when she is written as Havok83 said, Jean-light. She was originally written as a darker and edger character then Jean in the 60s, but that was forgotten in the 70s and 80s.

    She certainly should be a character of importance to the Marvelverse and I think under the hands of the right writer she could and should be an A- list character.

    What is keeping this from happening? I think some of it is Marvel, but most of it I think is that many writers over the years don't seem to have a great emotional investment in the character or even a strong image and personality for character like they have in their heads about other long time X-characters.
     
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  16. insane polaris

    insane polaris Well-Known Member

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    I only staring reading comics about 5 years ago, after having been an x-fan since i was little from watching TAS.
    so i havent read many comics where polaris has been in them.
    but my fav polaris stage was this run...
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    i loved the costume when drawn by salvador and i loved her personality.
    it was the time when she was abit crazy. it added some thing different to the character, and i loved when she disagreed with xavier.

    i think there is lots more we could see from Polaris, she has the links to Magneto (though i dont want a "magnetos my father" plot),

    i feel because there is no set personality for her, it gives the writer a chance to mold polaris to their liking.
     
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  17. jmc247

    jmc247 Well-Known Member

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    Austen did a really good job with her in that one. She had a set of beliefs that made her different from Xavier and they clashed based on their different set of beliefs.

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    As one of the X-books editor Lowe said this week in an interview, when they finally get to doing Lorna's origin story we can be sure it will be a really big deal. Its actually been eight years since Lorna last spoke to Magneto in the 616 and until Marvel finally has Magneto tell of her origins no writer is going to have the characters anywhere near each other in the 616, because there are too many questions that Marvel wants answered in a big Magneto Origins tale, not beforehand.

    Also, Chris Yost sent a message to Lorna fans a few weeks ago saying there are future plans for the character so we shouldn't worry.

     
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  18. Havok83

    Havok83 Well-Known Member

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    I hated what Austen did with Lorna, turning her into a pathetic, jealous obssessive psycho. She had a personality, but it absolultely sucked. The storyline with Alex and Annie was one of the worst for her. But still, like I said she had a personality which is more than I can say for her during Milligan and Brubaker's runs who wrote her bland, generic and pretty much boring
     
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  19. jmc247

    jmc247 Well-Known Member

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    Austen's run lasted from 2003 to the end of 2004. You can't even come close to comparing Lorna during the first year of Austen's run to that of the second year. Austen in the first year of his run made the age old writers mistake that Marti Noxon made on Buffy made during season 6 of airing out all the writers personal relationship issues with the characters they are writing.

    He turned Nurse Annie into his own wife as he told fans at a convention and Lorna into one of his old girlfriends during in 2003. But, Lorna in 2004 was a very different character. She was a heroic almost "one man X-team" as Austen said, but she was still a character with an edge. But, what he did with Lorna in 2003 overshadowed what he did with the character in 2004. Few remember heroic Lorna in 2004 in Uncanny and New X-Men, but everyone remembers crazy Lorna at her wedding. Some of the best written Lorna since the 1990s we had in 2004 and its a shame it was so overshadowed.

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    She was certainly very generic and boring during Millian's run and even worse in RAFOTSE. It took Austen a year to find a decient balance with Lorna. But, all that got thrown out the window for several years. Yost gave the character somewhat more edge in EV, but she still came off as the girl behind Havok, which I guess is only natural considering she is just there to help him against Vulcan.

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    But, as I said earlier in this post, Lorna in 2004 was quite well written. But, fans really from her wedding onword through 2004 and all the way into 2005 and 2006 kept screaming about crazy Lorna and that helped pressure the writers to keep toning the character down to the point where she was bland, boring, and generic as you said. Lorna without any edge is simply a filler character as another poster on this thread said and certainly isn't interesting enough to generate the fan interest to ever become an important character in Marvel eyes.
     
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  20. HandOfFate

    HandOfFate Well-Known Member

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    And the truth shall set you free. :woot:
     
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  21. jmc247

    jmc247 Well-Known Member

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    The X-editors speak about Lorna, X-Men editor Mike Marts also said something similar.

     
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  22. Havok83

    Havok83 Well-Known Member

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    I hated that Austen rewrote it and made Lorna, Magneto's daughter. Thats a plotline I wish would have been reversed
     
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  23. jmc247

    jmc247 Well-Known Member

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    Well I loved that plot line, but no it wasn't Austen's idea. Austen did an interview a few months back to answer some lingering fan questions that people keep asking him. You might find this interesting.

    New X-Men 132 September 2002 by Grant Morrison

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  24. Havok83

    Havok83 Well-Known Member

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    You are right in that Lorna first made her reappearance in New X-men. But Austen didnt have to pick up on what she said there. It could have been just crazy jibberish that Lorna was spouting and thats what I thought at first since she emerged from the Genosha rubble absolutely crazy and not all completely there. Austen went further and made her have some behind the scenes DNA test to prove he was her father even though it was disproved years ago. It was a dumb plot twist especially since not much has been done with it since. She hasnt even had a scene with Magneto since the big reveal
     
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  25. DJSCARLET

    DJSCARLET I think he heard you

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    house of M doesnt count?
    in that universe apparently Lorna wished to be closer to Mag.
    i actually like that they are related, but i just dont like that they havent had much contact (unlike ultimate x-men)
     
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