Iron Man 3 Official rate & review IRON MAN 3 thread!

[samsnee]

I can understand people not liking the film. It took a lot of chances which was sure to provoke dislike. But that poster also stated "RDJ's witty one liners are tiresome"? Dude...have you...been watching the same movies as the rest of us? That is one of the main reasons we love these Iron Man movies and RDJ as Tony Stark. It is difficult to imagine him being replaced.

Seriously. Anyone thinking that he isn't going to use one liners must not get out often.

 

[MLSkinner]

Ah, and finally we get the ******** batfan troll. I was wondering how long it would take.

I'll pretend that your post was sincere.

It's fresh because anything over 60% on RT is certified fresh.

As far as "massive ratings drop", the film is currently at 79% and has actually been going back up.

I think the batfan is just upset his favorite studio could never get someone as talented as RDJ for their DC related films. Whining about what score a film receives at RT is a new low. Hope they have good luck with that Justice League movie...someday.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

It's true that people are entitled to their opinion, but opinions can be challenged in a sensible manner, as long as it's not challenged by being rude.

 

[WarMachineRox]

It's true that people are entitled to their opinion, but opinions can be challenged in a sensible manner, as long as it's not challenged by being rude.

Amen to this. Let's all get along

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Anybody here see it in IMAX? My friend picked up some tickets for an IMAX screening of it for next saturday. Was the IMAX experience pretty good?

IMAX was fantastic

 

[Hypestyle]

I hope that AIM becomes more of a threat in future Marvel films- Killian's evil legacy should live on.

 

[Tony Stark]

Well as many have been suggesting AIM, may be the subject of CA:TWS

 

[Tony Stark]

It's true that people are entitled to their opinion, but opinions can be challenged in a sensible manner, as long as it's not challenged by being rude.

Sorry, you're right, we shouldn't drag things down. Most people who didn't like the film have been very respectful, and I have no problem with that.

When people start saying that critics are paid to say nice things about the movie, they're just trying to stir **** up. That was my main issue with DK, who has a history of doing stuff like that.

 

[Flemm]

I'm not asking for Cap and higher ups of SHIELD to take over the film, ala Iron Man 2. What I am asking for is at least a small presence within the film of SHIELD investigating in the same way that Stark is doing in the second act of the film.

Tagging this, just to be sure...

Spoiler

Well, what they did was focus on Tony's mental trauma following New York, and dropped the occasional thematic nod to other events, such as Killian's reference to Thor. This reminded me a bit of Fury's comment about how SHIELD's advanced weapons development was kick-started by Thor's arrival.

We'll see how it plays out, but I think not having SHIELD actually appear in the film was the right call. SHIELD will be front and center in Cap 2, I would imagine. Ultimately, the solo films should feel like solo films. The Avengers films should feel different.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

When people start saying that critics are paid to say nice things about the movie, they're just trying to stir **** up. That was my main issue with DK, who has a history of doing stuff like that.

That's very true. That kind of blanket statement should definitely be challenged

 

[Hypestyle]

some alternate therapy partners suggested for Tony:

some suggestions for an alternate "therapy encounter" for tony

a) Hugh Jackman
Tony: "You know, I could recommend you a great mani - pedi place if you're interested.. and did you ever think about electrolysis? little man-scaping action? Well, to each his own.. as I was saying.."

b) Andrew Garfield
Tony: "And so, my young friend, that's why I say that with great power, comes great wealth and acclaim if you work it right.. Oh, wait a second-- spider!" (swat!!)

c) Christian Bale
Tony: "so how's the retirement thing working out for you.. I know you've got your lady and all, but come on.. being broke? doesn't it drive you batty?"

 

[GremlinZilla89]

The more I think about it, the more I love it.

I'm genuinely shocked fans are so split about it. The last thing I will say about the twist is that I can see it disappointing people on a purely cinematic level. If it just sucked you out of the film, fine. But as a twist on the comics, I think it works brilliantly. And if something that drastic works within the context of the plot than it is perfectly acceptable.
The other thing that confuses me about the uproar is that fans are going on and on and on about how Mandarin was being built up as this mega awesome Joker-esque villain. Wah? Ya, his broadcasts were cool, but he barely had any presence in the film to begin with before the twist. I was expected a larger presence from him by the way people went on about it. Killian was front and center as the villain from the get go.

And man is Pierce getting the short end of the stick. I loved the guy in this. He didn't posture around, giving the typical "THIS IS MY PLAN! I'M SO POWERFUL! I'M SO SMART!" supervillain crap. He had a suave, easy going presence about him I really dug. His evil was almost nonchalant in it's execution. Between him and the Extremis soldiers this has the best villains in a MCU film next to the Avengers.

Some of the nitpicks (which they are, simple as that) I do agree with. I wished Rhodey got to do some cool **** with his armor and I feel the shrapnel thing at the end was glossed over WAY to fast, but this isn't enough to really diminish what an exciting, funny, fun, innovative film this is.

This is the most comic-booky of the Iron Man films yet and I loved it for that.

 

[Eddie]

I enjoyed the film quite a bit. It may not be Marvel's absolute best adaptation (that'd probably be the first Iron Man), but it's certainly one of their better films. If it wasn't for the annoying parents with the babbling little brat in my theater, I'd have no complaints!

 

[flash13]

Just got back from seeing it. I loved it! Definitely my favorite Marvel studios movie, bring on Thor: The Dark World! I wasn't fond of that Mandarin twist though.

 

[Sub-Zero]

I was kinda entertained, but it wasn't very good. When you make an ironman movie you expect to get tony in the suit for at least 50% of the movie. All he did was freak out over something he really didn't have a problem with at the end of avengers. I just don't get all the love for this movie. It wasn't ground breaking. It didn't do anything original. It was just the dark knight rises(which i didn't like , and thought was a copout)as a comedy. There a really no plot. The mandarin was done interestingly but it would've been so much more meaningful if it was alien tech/mysticism vs technology in the mandarin ironman battle. It was a good parallel to terrorism with the whole giving terrorists a face thing. If I had to rate it, 6/10.

 

[cherokeesam]

Saw the film for a third and final time before home video this afternoon.

I'm back more on the positive side, with reservations.

Ultimately, this film is all thematics and subtext, plain and simple. For me, what ultimately hurts it is the comedy, considering the placement of the comedy undercuts the stakes of the film and the characters at certain moments,the lack of a presence of SHIELD, and the twist (which doesn't need to be discussed any further but the subtext of the twist is the most interesting aspect of it.)

I'm not asking for Cap and higher ups of SHIELD to take over the film, ala Iron Man 2. What I am asking for is at least a small presence within the film of SHIELD investigating in the same way that Stark is doing in the second act of the film.

Considering the national security situation of the plot and the fact that one of the AVENGERS is seemingly dead, I would think that Fury could spare some SHIELD agents to investigate the matter and launch some type of investigation of their own.

Still, this is a nice send off for RDJ when it pertains to the Iron Man franchise. I just wish, like the first film, it'd take itself a little more seriously, considering that when it does, the film flies.

Spoiler

My SHIELD theory is that they *did* investigate the Mandarin stories when they first appeared --- why wouldn't they? --- and their superior intelligence allowed them to deduce that it was just smoke and mirrors after all and not a threat to global security.

But wait, you say. If Nick Fury knew Mandarin was a false front, then why didn't he warn Tony? Well, (a) he didn't really have time to, considering that the Malibu attack implicitly happens within hours of Tony throwing down the gauntlet on international TV. And (b) Tony likely wouldn't have even listened to Nick Fury at all. (By the end of Avengers, it's clear that Tony doesn't trust Nick Fury at all anymore, and he probably hates his guts.) And (c) even if Nick *had* warned Tony that it was all just a ruse, Tony would've likely accused Fury of lying ("as usual") and even insinuate that Mandarin might be a secret SHIELD asset that Fury is trying to cover up for.

Meanwhile, Killian continued to play both ends against the middle by having the VP in his pocket convince the President to go after this phantom menace. (Sounds very much like the VP of the previous US administration, guy by the name of "Cheney.") So if the White House's official policy on The Mandarin is "no quarter given," it's not likely that Fury could change anyone's mind about that.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

All he did was freak out over something he really didn't have a problem with at the end of avengers.

We barely saw Tony after the events of Avengers. PTSD doesn't necessarily just immediately flare up like a bad case of hemorrhoids.

Anyway, sorry you didn't like it. It's nice to see a negative opinion from someone who isn't lacing their post with sneering antagonism.

 

[Repulsor Blast]

tony's panic attacks weren't simply because of the worm hole, that was but the trigger for his anxiety.

what was this anxiety? well, basically the answer runs throughout the entire film: is tony capable/a hero outside of the suit? he feels he needs the armour more than ever because of the events in the avengers.

so when the phrase "worm hole" or some variant of it is heard by him, it triggers and concentrates all his anxiety towards THE most suit-dependent moment of his life - going into space and delivering the nuke.

the avengers showed that tony was a hero (addresses cap's line about him not being a hero, despite not being a bad guy) but he needed the suit to do so.

then, in IM3, you have the second prong of cap's dismissal of tony: "big man in a suit of armour, take that away, what are you?"

this is what tony is anxious about, not simply the worm hole itself. not everything is so black and white, at least not to me when viewing this movie.

 

[TheMark]

Saw the film for a third and final time before home video this afternoon.

I'm back more on the positive side, with reservations.

Ultimately, this film is all thematics and subtext, plain and simple. For me, what ultimately hurts it is the comedy, considering the placement of the comedy undercuts the stakes of the film and the characters at certain moments,the lack of a presence of SHIELD, and the twist (which doesn't need to be discussed any further but the subtext of the twist is the most interesting aspect of it.)

I'm not asking for Cap and higher ups of SHIELD to take over the film, ala Iron Man 2. What I am asking for is at least a small presence within the film of SHIELD investigating in the same way that Stark is doing in the second act of the film.

Considering the national security situation of the plot and the fact that one of the AVENGERS is seemingly dead, I would think that Fury could spare some SHIELD agents to investigate the matter and launch some type of investigation of their own.

Still, this is a nice send off for RDJ when it pertains to the Iron Man franchise. I just wish, like the first film, it'd take itself a little more seriously, considering that when it does, the film flies.

Everyone bought what The Mandarin was selling. Everyone in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and just about everyone here. SHIELD wasn't at all involved because no one thought there was any super-powered activity going on, and that's really all we've seen SHIELD dealing with in these movies. Super-powers and highly advanced technology. The Middle-Eastern terrorist organization wasn't a problem for them. At least that's how I see it.

 

[Repulsor Blast]

shane black: so how are we going to explain the lack of shield in this movie? i know we made a conscious decision to not let them in the film giving what happened in iron man 2, but yeah.

feige: i know! we will use iron patriot as a shield surrogate. he's the president's go to guy for terrorists. we'll shoot a scene explaining as much, most likely involving a press release and reactions from various news anchors.

shane black: yeah, that should work as an adequate explanation. plus i'd imagine the president wasn't too happy with how shield handled the events in the avengers.

feige: yes i tend to agree. if there was no iron patriot then i think we'd have a problem. but even then, shield is more of a covert agency anyway. if they were trying to track down the mandarin who is to say they would need a public presence to do so?

shane black: plus they wouldn't be able to contact tony, even though he is not affiliated with shield and the avengers are on a leave of absence, because he is presumed dead.

feige: also they may have bigger fish to fry, which we will see in the winter soldier.

shane: seems like enough reasons to me. i guess if fan boys still complain then the future movies might offer further explanation.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Everyone bought what The Mandarin was selling. Everyone in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and just about everyone here. SHIELD wasn't at all involved because no one thought there was any super-powered activity going on, and that's really all we've seen SHIELD dealing with in these movies. Super-powers and highly advanced technology. The Middle-Eastern terrorist organization wasn't a problem for them. At least that's how I see it.

Lets also not forget the bin laden reference.... shield also didn't go after him to our knowledge...

Shield seems to stay out of politics and only jumps into super powered happenings

 

[Whiskey Tango]

SHIELD wasn't at all involved because no one thought there was any super-powered activity going on, and that's really all we've seen SHIELD dealing with in these movies. Super-powers and highly advanced technology. The Middle-Eastern terrorist organization wasn't a problem for them. At least that's how I see it.

Fury says as much in Avengers. Mundane terrorism is under SHIELD's pay grade.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

shane: seems like enough reasons to me. i guess if fan boys still complain then we will laugh ourselves to the bank while feasting on their sweet, sweet nerd tears of rage

fixed.

 

[J.Howlett]

Fury says as much in Avengers. Mundane terrorism is under SHIELD's pay grade.

And yet Coulson shows up in the original picture after Tony gets rescued from terrorists. There wasn't anything superpowered about that situation at all but there's Phil Coulson from SHIELD, wanting to debrief Stark.

Just sayin'....

 

[Whiskey Tango]

And yet Coulson shows up in the original picture after Tony gets rescued from terrorists. There wasn't anything superpowered about that situation at all...

Except for the world's foremost genius weapons designer getting kidnapped by terrorists and the possibility of his clearly advanced tech* potentially falling into the wrong hands.

Yes, genius brain is a superpower.

*Jericho Missile utilizing Stark's proprietary repulsorlift technology being the prime example