Spider-Man 3 Official Thread for the Spider-Man 3 Footage on Heroes and NBC.com!

[Doomriderr666]

In this fight Pete had the upper hand because Harry didn't really seem to have what is called a plan. He ambushed him and tried to get revenge, but that was all he had going on in his brain. He overlooked the fact that he could get seriously hurt going up against pete who's been doing this for years. But again...this is the first fight of the entire movie and Harry will get another chance for vengeance.

 

[ghost_x]

I still think the fight between Harry and Peter in the mansion is a dream/side effect of the goblin serum

 

[xboxgamer94]

I know this is dumb but...can any of you guys post the trailer from the tv - the one minute version? - it would be a big help

 

[YodatheHobbit]

Dont worry it's not dumb. I also wanted to see the 1 min version but I missed it on TV because I was watching the 7 mins version so many times. t:
Here it is: http://youtube.com/watch?v=RCmp8PQINbU

 

[ultimatefan]

Great, now I'm addicted to that damn video, I said that I'd watch it three times and then I was done with it, now I'm hooked. Someone must have laced this damn thing, I can't shake it man, I've got it bad...and I gotta get some help...

I know, there´s gotta be subliminal images of Angelina Jolie making out with Scarlet Johansson or something... Can´t. Stop. Watching!

 

[roony]

Does anyone have a link to an Ipod ready version? I'm sorry for the incovenience, but my sound is jacked up, and that's the only way I can watch it.

 

[Mike059jig]

Greatest 7 minute preview ever!!!!!!!.....WOW I just watched it....it was awesome......that fight scene was great.....they actually showed a huge scene that every one been waiting for....Spidey was doing alot of web blasting.....and Harry outfit looks great....."you knew this was coming pete".....Harry took a mean fall....should be all right.......

You know I seen a Silver Surfer poster FF4#2....like every where here in NYC....and I still haven't seen a SM3 poster yet...other than in the comic books!!!....

 

[Visionary]

Are you kidding, there are various SM3 posters all over NYC?

 

[Infinity9999x]

I asked this in the other thread and I was wondering...how did Harry get the drop on Pete? Did Pete's Spider-sense go on fritz or something?

 

[Ryo Jin]

CRIMINY!! That's been asked a bazillion times!

But to answer your question, look at Peter's face right before he's grabbed by Harry, it does go off, but too late. Why? Because he's in La-La Land with MJ.

 

[DyeLorean]

Interesting that Peter isn't wearing his Spidey costume under his clothes. You can tell because his shirt gets ripped and you can see his skin.

You're right!

That scene could be before or after the symbiote caughts Peter? Cause I remember a scene in one of the earlier trailers, where the black suit was like in a bag or something, and Peter was touching it with a smile on his face like if it was a boob t:

Now that you mention it, the suit under the ripped shirt would've been cool

D! (dyego)

 

[spideyman101]

Who knows. Movie makers make mistakes ALL the time. They could have just left the spidey suit out (by accident). Or they could've had a good reason...

... for instance, maybe they'll bring into story that not only is Spidey getting recognized publically as a hero, but crime has diminished remarkably to the point where Pete may not even NEED to wear his suit on that much anymore.

And then all of a sudden POOF, out of nowhere his best friend attacks him. :P

 

[DyeLorean]

Haha yep, that's a good explanation.

But I just remembered, that before going to the MJ's play in SM2, he couldn't decide between the Spidey suit and the tuxedo. So there you have it: he doesn't wear the Spidey suit all the time

D! (dyego)

PS: By the way... what happens with the suit's gloves? I mean... wtf???

 

[Drago]

Why? Because it's getting old that everyone Peter bumps into is a super villain. I'd love to see maybe Kraven in the background in Spider-Man 4 kind of cutting here and there to a brief scene of someone watching Spider-Man or tracking him then at the end of Spidey 4 have Parker be kidnapped kind of like the end of 24 last season. Then he wakes up on an Island...the hunt begings. Perhaps Dr. Conner is with him when he wakes up and there both hunted...or maybe even Frank Castle. LOL It could be very fun and quite different. I'd love to see Spidey swinging throught he Jungles.

Its weird that so many villians have connections to Pete, but with Harry and Venom, we'll see them be villians because of the connection to Pete, and Lizard would probably be a similar situation, if Doc Connors is checkin' it out in Spidey 3 for him. Don't really care... have full faith in Raimi

 

[Ryo Jin]

Haha yep, that's a good explanation.

But I just remembered, that before going to the MJ's play in SM2, he couldn't decide between the Spidey suit and the tuxedo. So there you have it: he doesn't wear the Spidey suit all the time

D! (dyego)

PS: By the way... what happens with the suit's gloves? I mean... wtf???

In his pockets most likely, they show that in the beginning of the second one, unless it's his mask. Either way it sounds more logical that they'd be in his pocket.

 

[DyeLorean]

I always thought it was his mask. But this same mistakes applies to the comic books, the same mistakes are brought from there.

D!

 

[Gold Samurai]

sorry if this has been said but any notice right before Harry grabs Peter his spider sense didn't go off? it seems inconsistant with Spiderman 2 where he's also riding on his moped then a car speeds up from behind and he does a flip in the air

 

[November Rain]

Like I said, the movies haven´t been building up Harry´s revenge, they´re building up his resolution with Pete, which is most likely Harry´s redemption, not his death (well, not in that scene anyway).

You said he wasn´t beat after the "surprise factor", and that´s when he´s hit against the wall. After that he´s still hit several times. Harry fell from a high distance and went beating around in the way, that´s a lot worse than what he did to Peter, and that´s why Peter´s a better fighter, and that´s the point, Peter IS a better fighter than Harry. It´s logical that he is. The real suspense of the scene, as we see in the end, is Harry getting killed or not.

ah man, how can you say they haven't been building up for his revenge, he says he wants to make spiderman pay, he gets ock to bring spiderman to him so he can kill him.

it's always been about harry's revenge against spiderman, not his resolution with pete, that is something that comes up in this film but it certainly hasn't been building up to it thus far. Feel free to show me a single scene in the past two films where this occurs.

nope, parker's still getting surprised by harry's attacks right up until he grabs his engagement ring, and happily shrugs off all of his friend's efforts.

Yah, peter is a better fighter, but he didn't even properly fight his friend. All he truelly does is throw him off a glider, stab him to destract him and watch his friend fly himself into a glider. Hardly the heights physical conflict, by no where near the region we can see him bout to. And he does this all in restricting normal human attire. Anyone that fights professionally or as a martial artist can tell you that wearing a suit seriously affects your ability to make certain moves, which is probably why harry chose to take him down while he had one on.

Sure peter is better, so if one knows something so elementary, why try and engage in such a futile type of bout?

If you had years to plan for revenge against your father's death, you would make one helluva great plan, especially if you had pretty much a bottomless pocket.

 

[November Rain]

I don't think they'd show that scene if they didn't have a lot more waiting in the wings where that came from. They'd never give away something that was the climax of the film already. I'm wondering if Peter and Harry are going to fight again after that, perhaps? I bet they do, that whole scene had a feeling to me of "this is just the first round." I'm sure there's more where that came from.

Well they engage another time but i believe parker has the symbiote on then.

so there's this fight,

two with sandman on his own (with and without the symbiote)

a venom free for all at the end

I doubt there will be more than four fight scenes in this film with all the story they need to pack in.

this scene is pretty much the fight we've all been waiting to see from the first two films, i can't believe they showed it to us early as if it was completely irrelevant.

It's supposed to be like a goblin legacy trilogy and they've gone and shown some of the most important parts of it.

It's quite clear this film has changed direction in order to please the masses. I sense bigtime money chasing here...

 

[ultimatefan]

ah man, how can you say they haven't been building up for his revenge, he says he wants to make spiderman pay, he gets ock to bring spiderman to him so he can kill him.

it's always been about harry's revenge against spiderman, not his resolution with pete, that is something that comes up in this film but it certainly hasn't been building up to it thus far. Feel free to show me a single scene in the past two films where this occurs.

nope, parker's still getting surprised by harry's attacks right up until he grabs his engagement ring, and happily shrugs off all of his friend's efforts.

Yah, peter is a better fighter, but he didn't even properly fight his friend. All he truelly does is throw him off a glider, stab him to destract him and watch his friend fly himself into a glider. Hardly the heights physical conflict, by no where near the region we can see him bout to. And he does this all in restricting normal human attire. Anyone that fights professionally or as a martial artist can tell you that wearing a suit seriously affects your ability to make certain moves, which is probably why harry chose to take him down while he had one on.

Sure peter is better, so if one knows something so elementary, why try and engage in such a futile type of bout?

If you had years to plan for revenge against your father's death, you would make one helluva great plan, especially if you had pretty much a bottomless pocket.

That´s what you´´re not getting, the revenge is what Harry THINKS that he wants, what he really needs is to come to terms with the fact that his father was a psychopath and that he brought what happened to him on himself.

A single scene? Several. Harry helping Pete to meet Doc Ock in spite of his bitterness over the Spidey pictures. Harry dropping his knife when he founds out Pete is Spider-Man. His fight with his "father", claiming Peter is his friend, screaming "no" at him. Harry is not secure that he wants revenge, it´s his desperate wish for fatherly approval that drives his attack, much more than a certainty that Peter deserves it. And it´s that desperation and blind emotion that makes him attack someone clearly superior. But still he´s conflicted, Peter´s still the guy who´s been his best friend for years, deep down he knows Pete doesn´t deserve this, he doesn´t have the conviction that would lead to a perfect murder plan. Evcn if he DID have one, nothing compares to practical experience, which Pete has and he doesn´t.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Well they engage another time but i believe parker has the symbiote on then.

so there's this fight,

two with sandman on his own (with and without the symbiote)

a venom free for all at the end

I doubt there will be more than four fight scenes in this film with all the story they need to pack in.

this scene is pretty much the fight we've all been waiting to see from the first two films, i can't believe they showed it to us early as if it was completely irrelevant.

It's supposed to be like a goblin legacy trilogy and they've gone and shown some of the most important parts of it.

It's quite clear this film has changed direction in order to please the masses. I sense bigtime money chasing here...

they have to advertise this film. I mean I'm VERY happy they released this scene online because it's getting us all hyped up. we have been waiting to see this scene for a long time and harry fufilling the goblin legacy is something that should be released online even though it's a big part of the film. we still have the peter vs. harry fight in the mansion which will be brutal as well.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

This is, in no away a state at the film´s quality.
Not only because no one saw it yet, it would be stupid to do it in a clip alone.
Besides, i already know what will come out of it, more of the same, which means that anyone that loved the other two will love this one, and no didn´t, well, 50% that they will not like this.
But, back at it...

What is stupid about the all fight between Peter and Harry?
First, no one sees the damn fight!
That alone screams stupid.
Harry pulls Peter out of his moving "dorky" bike (that´s street level), they almost crash against the bus in front of them....and no one sees s**t!
They make a lot of noise fighting, a piece of the building falls to the streets, and...nothing, not only one person looks outside the fricking window.

Second, Peter is a pathetic fighter, he gets his ass kicked by Harry, and he wins by being a coward with a cheap stunt "hit him while he isn´t looking".
All Peter does is run, oh yeah, and gives elbow shot when he blinds Harry with a web on his eyes.

Second, to use Peter as a battering ram, hitting him against all the buildings he can find, would end the fight right there, and make people look outside the windows.
Oh yeah, and it´s a bad move, this is a fight, not wrestling.
But no, and Peter doesn´t even have a scratch to show....:rollyes:

All in all, that´s a bad fight right there....

 

[mre]

Second, to use Peter as a battering ram...

Firstly, that is your third point.
Secondly, I liked that part, however dragging Peter against the wall like that seems more like something Norman would do.
Other than that I loved the fight. How do you know that no one sees the fight tho? It all happened so fast, Peter is on his bike (didn't it get destroyed in number 2?) and then a second later he is 100 feet in the air!
I think you being too harsh on the fight.

The only problem I had with the footage was the MJ/Peter scene, and how Petes spidey sense didn't go off when Harry abducted him. Someone mentioned that it was discussed before?

 

[mre]

.. I sense bigtime money chasing here...

Tell me about it. Just look at the Spidey merch we have seen.
But this has been happening ever since the first Spidey movie. They "popped" out Spidey for Hollywood.

 

[shigsy2003]

Okay just thought I would throw in my opinion. First though, Pete's bike is not destroyed in 2, we can see him trying to fix it in the montage.

Pete is a rubbish fighter? Well let's see. He gets taken by surprise out of costume so he quickly needs to improvise. Secondly the attacker reveals himself to be Harry. Pete is going to want to take him down without hurting him to much. Pete knows why Harry is doing this so he isn't going to be fighting to seriously damage him. He didn't even mean for Harry to smack his head on the bar that ends the fight.

Why doesn't anyone see the fight? Well how do we know this? It doesn't cutaway to anyone to confirm or deny this and it doesn't need. The fight moves at such a pace and it has a lot of emotion cuttingaway to passers by would be detracting from it. Also the fight is at night, so the very big business looking windows could get smashed as no one would be there (convienient maybe).

Every single film has massive things wrong with them if you want to get right down to the nitty gritty and isn't it a pitty that in this big city, not-a-one a little bitty man will admit he could've been a little-bit-a wrong.