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UNCANNY X-MEN #522


STORY BY Matt Fraction
ART BY Whilce Portacio, Phil Jimenez, Ed Tadeo
COLORS BY Justin Ponsor, Soto
LETTERS BY Joe Caramanga
COVER BY Terry Dodson
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $3.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, March 24th, 2010

She’s been gone for a long time, but she’s coming back. This isn’t a hoax. This isn’t a joke. KITTY PRYDE is back in this over-sized special issue of UNCANNY X-MEN

 

[UraniaChang]

Kitty needs some make up.

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

Are the preview pages by Portacio or Tadeo? Cause it's been rumored Portacio is the new ongoing Uncanny artist after Second Coming.

 

[Snikt8]

I am very glad Kitty is coming back, but this does seemed rushed, and I am sure it will be pushed aside with all the Second Coming stuff going on. I wonder if Kitty is pregnant....that would be a nice bonus.

 

[Snikt8]

Are the preview pages by Portacio or Tadeo? Cause it's been rumored Portacio is the new ongoing Uncanny artist after Second Coming.

Looks like Portacio to me. He is a great artist...but been there done that. Would be nice to get someone else.....

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

As long as Land is gone I'm fine.

 

[Johnny Drama]

My interest in Uncanny X-Men has returned thanks to Nation-X

 

[Manic]

Land is gone?!

CAN YOU
FEEL THE
BRAND NEW DAAAAAYYYYYY
[/The Wiz]


I'd just like to repeat something I posted a couple pages back (from this genius' blog), and point out how Magneto's efforts make no sense. Even if you ignore the wacky magic or psychic field around the bullet that causes anyone thinking of stopping it to go into a trance, Magneto shouldn't be able to do this. The bullet is so far out in space that his powers would have to be traveling faster than the speed of light just to reach it-- which should be pretty much impossible, because his powers are electromagnetic waves, which aren't that damn fast.


I'd also like to point out that just a few issues ago (written by the same writer, no less), Magneto wasn't even strong enough to keep the island afloat.

 

[Havok83]

Land is gone?!

CAN YOU
FEEL THE
BRAND NEW DAAAAAYYYYYY
[/The Wiz]


I'd just like to repeat something I posted a couple pages back (from this genius' blog), and point out how Magneto's efforts make no sense. Even if you ignore the wacky magic or psychic field around the bullet that causes anyone thinking of stopping it to go into a trance, Magneto shouldn't be able to do this. The bullet is so far out in space that his powers would have to be traveling faster than the speed of light just to reach it-- which should be pretty much impossible, because his powers are electromagnetic waves, which aren't that damn fast.


I'd also like to point out that just a few issues ago (written by the same writer, no less), Magneto wasn't even strong enough to keep the island afloat.

I dont get it especially considering Magneto has been shown to be drastically weaker now than he has been before. His power levels are being portrayed very inconsistent since he returned

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I won't miss Land. I know it's not him, but I'll be damned if some of those faces don't look like Silvestri's work.

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

Wouldn't be surprised, that man gets his "sources" from everybody.

 

[Snikt8]

Yeah, I won't miss Land. I know it's not him, but I'll be damned if some of those faces don't look like Silvestri's work.

Agree. Man, he has drawn the worst Wolverine ever. The smiles still haunt me......

 

[Snikt8]

Land is gone?!

CAN YOU
FEEL THE
BRAND NEW DAAAAAYYYYYY
[/The Wiz]


I'd just like to repeat something I posted a couple pages back (from this genius' blog), and point out how Magneto's efforts make no sense. Even if you ignore the wacky magic or psychic field around the bullet that causes anyone thinking of stopping it to go into a trance, Magneto shouldn't be able to do this. The bullet is so far out in space that his powers would have to be traveling faster than the speed of light just to reach it-- which should be pretty much impossible, because his powers are electromagnetic waves, which aren't that damn fast.


I'd also like to point out that just a few issues ago (written by the same writer, no less), Magneto wasn't even strong enough to keep the island afloat.

This is simply an out to get Mag's back on everyone's good side. The writers can not explain it and it all just seemed rushed. Shame, could have been done so much better.

 

[JewishHobbit]

^^^wow kid, you like Austen ANNND Claremont?

I won't say anything, but prepare to not find much sympathy on these boards...lol

I liked Austen and Claremont just fine. Claremont's return was nowhere near as bad as people played it up to be. He used the characters well, came up with some good stories that, if played out, likely would have ended up being pretty good. It had the same feel as his original run toward the end, the later Australian days. Good stuff

And I thought his X-Treme X-Men was great at the beginning, better than Uncanny and New X-Men at the time. The stuff with Vargas and then the Invasion arc, followed by the Schism arc were all very good. After that it went downhill a little, but it was still okay.

As for Austen... he was a little more hit and miss, but all in all I enjoyed his run. He turned me into a Juggernaut fan, and while Husk and Angel's relationship was wierd, I loved actually seeing Husk on the team.

So far, I think both are better than either Fraction or Brubaker's runs.

 

[Havok83]

Better than Fraction, but not Brubaker. Brubaker is the only good UXM writer Ive seen on the book this century. Claremont's Revolution work wasnt bad but his 3rd run on this title was horrible. Austen was just overall meh

 

[Manic]

Claremont's run suffered from unexplained happenings involving Psylocke, a few editorial cock-blocks, and an old school style of writing that just doesn't seem to work anymore. Characters don't need to narrate what they're doing with their powers when the art already depicts it. He's not what he used to be, but he's not terrible. Well, his Exiles run was pretty bad, but his recent Uncanny work was mediocre (which, despite popular use as such, doesn't mean "bad") at best.

My only real complaint about Brubaker on this title was that Rise & Fall didn't end after 12 freaking issues. Otherwise, he was great.

Fraction has been a huge disappointment for me. I know he's a good writer, but his Uncanny run has been a real mixed bag. His use of character cameos seem unnecessary, Sisterhood was terrible and clearly made up as he went along rather than planned out when he first introduced the Red Queen, Utopia Island is a terrible idea, Magneto's rescuing of Kitty so far makes no sense, and the X-titles' stay in San Francisco* was insanely short. However, I love the way he writes Cyclops 90% of the time, the X-Club is awesome, the Dark Avengers/X-Men crossover was the cat's pajamas, and he brought back the U-Men (more or less).



*Hopefully the X-Men will move back into the X-Center in Marin soon. The editors said they're not done with San Francisco yet. There was that recent scene of Cyclops & Emma talking, where Emma said the people of SF miss them, and Cyclops said they're not going back to the City as long as Norman Osborn is in power--with Seige kicking Osborn's ass to the curb, San Francisco might be the home of the X-Men during the Heroic Age, so fingers crossed.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I'd be cool with that. I like the idea of the X-Men in San Fransisco.

My opinion, the only good thing to come out of Brubaker's run was stuff that came after his run, so it wasn't him but what he set up. So you can't really even count that as his. It was Yost, Abnett, and Lanning who I thank for that.

And he went with Darwin when Lifeguard could have easily fit the story better... one of my favorite no longer used characters.

And yeah, Claremont's Revelution era was really good. I really enjoyed the issue of X-Men when the Neo were hunting Nightcrawler and Cecelia Reyes. His later return was mediocre... I did forget about that. It started strong with the Fury, which was a great arc, but by the time it wound down with the Jamie Braddock story it was kinda bleh.

I'd still take Claremont over Bru or Fraction though. Austen, I don't know. He had his time and did well, but I don't know if I'd actually want him back again. Maybe with better artists that weren't so manga-ish.

 

[Havok83]

And yeah, Claremont's Revelution era was really good. I really enjoyed the issue of X-Men when the Neo were hunting Nightcrawler and Cecelia Reyes. His later return was mediocre... I did forget about that. It started strong with the Fury, which was a great arc, but by the time it wound down with the Jamie Braddock story it was kinda bleh.

I'd still take Claremont over Bru or Fraction though. Austen, I don't know. He had his time and did well, but I don't know if I'd actually want him back again. Maybe with better artists that weren't so manga-ish.

That was X-men and I didnt like his work on that book. The UXM team and issues were much better. Im not sure Id callt it really good but it was defiently better than Davis who preceeded him

 

[Snikt8]

Better than Fraction, but not Brubaker. Brubaker is the only good UXM writer Ive seen on the book this century. Claremont's Revolution work wasnt bad but his 3rd run on this title was horrible. Austen was just overall meh

You really think Brubaker is the best this century? He was good, story was okay and I am a big fan of Billy Tan....but that whole year had a limited series feel about it. Was it REALLY an Uncanny tale? I don't know, seemed liked an extended LS to me. He did bring back some great characters though - but left a few out there too.

I think Fraction has done a good job - but not as well as he could have done. Since issue 500 it has been scattershot. Good story - horrible story - okay story - with Cyke as really the only consistant.

 

[Manic]

Brubaker's run extended beyond Rise & Fall, you know. There was The Extremists, he headlined Messiah CompleX, and then there was that fun Divided We Stand hippie story.

 

[Havok83]

You really think Brubaker is the best this century? He was good, story was okay and I am a big fan of Billy Tan....but that whole year had a limited series feel about it. Was it REALLY an Uncanny tale? I don't know, seemed liked an extended LS to me. He did bring back some great characters though - but left a few out there too.

I think Fraction has done a good job - but not as well as he could have done. Since issue 500 it has been scattershot. Good story - horrible story - okay story - with Cyke as really the only consistant.

Yes Brubaker is the best of the century. Look at who we have. Claremont, Casey, Austen, Claremont again, Brubaker and Fraction. Out of this bunch, Brubaker is the only one that I consistently enjoyed. Aside from the Extremist arc, I found his run solid. The rest were every boring or just plain awful. Yes the Shi'ar arc was an UXM tale. It wasa throwback to the classic writng and stories of the 80s. I thought it was well done and paced although I know some will disagree. The only part I didnt like was the end, bc he didnt conclude it. I think that was more on Marvel though wanting to cash in on the story by extended it into minis

I cant think of a single thing to praise about Fraction's run. Its dowright awful. Whats worse is that he has so much power. UXM is the flagship book and what he does here affects many of the other books and characters. I know people hated how Austen ruined some characters and told bad stories, but at least his influence was self contained within his own book

 

[gothicFLAVOURS]

I'd just like to repeat something I posted a couple pages back (from this genius' blog), and point out how Magneto's efforts make no sense. Even if you ignore the wacky magic or psychic field around the bullet that causes anyone thinking of stopping it to go into a trance, Magneto shouldn't be able to do this. The bullet is so far out in space that his powers would have to be traveling faster than the speed of light just to reach it-- which should be pretty much impossible, because his powers are electromagnetic waves, which aren't that damn fast.

Actually, electromagnetic waves travel at the speed of light in the vaccum of space. Since the bullet can't travel at the speed of light because it has a mass, electromagnetic waves are travelling faster than the bullet.
I'm not saying it makes sense, because the bullet is so far away that I don't think Magneto could bring it back to Earth that fast, but maybe Fraction is just pointing the bullet back to Earth and not bringing Kitty back yet.
Anyways, I don't think making him feel the bullet is that farfetched, since we can measure magnetic fields from the center of our Galaxy, and the bullet can't be that far away from Earth.

 

[Manic]

Actually, electromagnetic waves travel at the speed of light in the vaccum of space. Since the bullet can't travel at the speed of light because it has a mass, electromagnetic waves are travelling faster than the bullet.
I'm not saying it makes sense, because the bullet is so far away that I don't think Magneto could bring it back to Earth that fast, but maybe Fraction is just pointing the bullet back to Earth and not bringing Kitty back yet.

Well, the speed of the bullet itself is another snafu in physics. When that bullet got launched in Astonishing X-Men, it reached Earth in what seemed like hours (maybe days). Even if Breakworld was in the nearest star system, the bullet itself would have to be moving past the speed of light.

Even if we let that slide and say the bullet was only moving near light speed, a bullet that fast would have to be waaayyyy out there by now. It's been hurdling through space for months now. Magneto's electromagnetic waves (which now have an ungodly long range) would still take a while to reach the bullet.



On another note, why is Emma so shocked that Magneto is keeping her out of his thoughts? He's wearing his helmet. Was he not supposed to be drawn wearing it?

 

[JewishHobbit]

Yes Brubaker is the best of the century. Look at who we have. Claremont, Casey, Austen, Claremont again, Brubaker and Fraction.

For me... this is the order of greatness this century.

1. Casey
2. Claremont (1st time)
3. Austen
4. Claremont (2nd time)
5. Brubaker
6. Faction

4 and 5 are real close though.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Casey was my favourite, too. I wish he stayed longer. It doesn't hurt that he focused on my 3 fave X-Men (Archangel, Iceman, Nightcrawler). His Archangel was fantastic.