The Amazing Spider-Man Official Villian Casting & Discussion Thread

[Silver Knight]

When do you guys honestly think we will know for sure?

 

[SymbioticToxin]

Honestly, I'd say sometime before filming. Like january or febuary. It could even be december or november for all we know.

 

[Hectorminator]

So Sam said he wants to get "back to basics", and not have as many villains.

I hope this means at most two classic villains. But that they don't "team-up" against Spidey, but rather split up the screen time half-and-half.

I think the best match would be the Lizard taking up the first half of the movie, and Spidey dealing with Kraven the Hunter the second half.

Kind of like how Two-Face didn't really show up until after the Joker was out of the picture in the Dark Knight.

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

I;m sick of hearing about how the dark knight should influence spider-man 4.

was the dark knight amazing? hell yes it was.
flawed? yes, it had some of those too. (yup...just commited that cardinal sin)

spider-man+batman ideas = no thanks..

 

[Hectorminator]

Mmm I agree.

I'm not saying Spider-Man should be influenced by the Dark Knight as a film itself. But the idea to not put all the villains together.

Spider-Man + not having all the villains on the screen at the same time = good idea

 

[Octoberist]

it would be weird not to have The Lizard. it's like a huge tease throughout all three movies to have Dylan Baker there.

But I wouldn't mind Electro I suppose. I don't know. It depends how intelligent The Lizard is.

But in the end, I think The Lizard is the best way to go because they don't have to overthink the character because he's been established already. No need to have a big intro; keep it simple and just add to the layer of development , you know?

 

[LightningFlash]

I don't think they can use 6 Villians. I heard a while back that they're limited to just 2.

You can have six villains in a film, all you need is to explain the purpose of the villains in the movies before the sixth(which is why, if a reboot is to come in the future, this would be a great arc for the first five films, to bring in the members of the Sinister six, by twos, minus a couple of movies with Green Goblin and Lizard). But, also, you need someone smart enough to create an amazing script, even with six villains. A script that will blow S-M 3's poor excuse of a script out of the water.

And, I love how NOW Raimi is saying "I'm going to get back to the basics". He's only saying that now, because if someone above him wants to put in a villain, Raimi will just bend over and take the "advice".

 

[omid17]

Asked about complaints that there were too many villains in Spider-Man 3, he said: "I think having so many villains detracted from the experience. I would agree with the criticism."

Raimi added that he had learned some new lessons and storytelling tricks from his last film, Drag Me to Hell. "I think I've learned about the importance of getting to the point and the importance of having limitations, and I'm hoping to take that into a production where I'm actually allowed to explore with more of the tools to pull it off with a little more splendor.

"I hope I don't lose that edge that I've just found. That would be my approach to 'Spider-Man 4': to get back to the basics."

Thank God

 

[TheFuture]

I certainly hope that's the case.

He's certainly a prime candidate to be the film's main villain - After two appearances of Conners, with the Lizard being cut from Spider-Man 2 and, not to mention, he is one of the few classic rogues that have yet to be seen in the films.

I honestly can't see anyone else, especially when Raimi says

Or maybe he has to grow in a way to overcome the villain

That to me sounds like Peter will have to put his personal feelings a side to beat the villian, that he will have to make the tough decisions, even if it means hurting Doc Conners.

If Raimi is taking a leaf from The Dark Knight then i hope he'll have one villain who's personally connected to Peter Parker and another who isn't. It could actually be interesting imo.

I'd love to see the other villain know about The Lizard's real identity, and see him constantly attack the hypocrisy of Spider-Man for not doing as much as he could do in taking The Lizard down. Just being a right pain in the ass, but someone who begrudgingly has a point.

Yeah, I agree, and honestly, I couldn't be happier. I mean, the Lizard has ben long awaited, and Connor's has been established throughout these films, which just makes it a perfect time to make the Lizard.

Same here. I wonder if Raimi will stick with Dylan Baker. I assume he cast the role taking into account the eventual prominence Connors will come into, so I'm sure Baker has the chops to pull it off.

 

[Symbiotic]

New interview with Raimi was a good read, glad to hear his thoughts on limitations, though I don't hold him accountable for any of the dislikes I had with Spidey 3.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

That poster is awesome!

The first bummer that S-M3 had was not to have a great villain poster like S-M2's

The Sandman poster where he is standing in front of his daughter was pretty awesome.

 

[omid17]

agreed

 

[Sebastos]

Betting Its Lizard. Wonder if it'll Just be Lizard though.

I hope it's just Lizard.

 

[Rodrigo90]

You cant have Lizard and not have Kraven. Its the Law.

 

[Sebastos]

As much as I want Kraven I can live without him not being in SM4.

 

[Nightmare]

Think of it this way, if we only get one villian. We'll have another side story with Mary Jane being jealous or some ****

 

[omid17]

Asked about complaints that there were too many villains in Spider-Man 3, he said: "I think having so many villains detracted from the experience. I would agree with the criticism."

Raimi added that he had learned some new lessons and storytelling tricks from his last film, Drag Me to Hell. "I think I've learned about the importance of getting to the point and the importance of having limitations, and I'm hoping to take that into a production where I'm actually allowed to explore with more of the tools to pull it off with a little more splendor.

"I hope I don't lose that edge that I've just found. That would be my approach to 'Spider-Man 4': to get back to the basics."

thank you

 

[Venom 1988]

The Sandman poster where he is standing in front of his daughter was pretty awesome.

Too bad it was never released and only at Comic Con to view

 

[omid17]

Too bad it was never released and only at Comic Con to view

i know

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Agreed. I would've LOVED to have owned it.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Be cool if Jonah Jameson received a package at the Daily Bugle,when Jonah opens the package,it is a suitcase.When Jonah opens the suitcase it is a pair of gauntlets
laying on top of a suit that will protect the user from the gauntlets blasts.

Jonah could be the Shocker or Electro.Maybe as Electro Jonah creates the Lizard by blasting Dr.Connors by accident during a fight with spidey,mutating the lizard DNA that is in Dr.Connors body.

The mystery would be on who sent Jonah the package,a mystery that won't be revealed in SM4.

As for MJ,please Raimi don't have her taken hostage by the villain,don't have her scream her brains out,don't have her talk like she is the greatest,etc.

 

[Spider-Ranger]

Be cool if Jonah Jameson received a package at the Daily Bugle,when Jonah opens the package,it is a suitcase.When Jonah opens the suitcase it is a pair of gauntlets
laying on top of a suit that will protect the user from the gauntlets blasts.

Jonah could be the Shocker or Electro.Maybe as Electro Jonah creates the Lizard by blasting Dr.Connors by accident during a fight with spidey,mutating the lizard DNA that is in Dr.Connors body.

The mystery would be on who sent Jonah the package,a mystery that won't be revealed in SM4.

As for MJ,please Raimi don't have her taken hostage by the villain,don't have her scream her brains out,don't have her talk like she is the greatest,etc.

Which drugs do you consume?
I'd like some of 'em

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I hope it's just Lizard.

I honestly would love it to be just the Lizard, or Lizard and Kraven, etc. Both would work well, IMO.

 

[omid17]

hey it's too late to hire new actors for SM4 right? since it'll start shooting in March

 

[Sebastos]

New actors has in for Peter and MJ? Yes.