The Amazing Spider-Man Official Villian Casting & Discussion Thread

[Spider-ManHero12]

Originally Posted by MikeFrost
Take it with a pinch of salt but apparently Wikipedia is crediting Crispin Glover as Electro on Spiderman 4.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispin_Glover

Same deal as Clive Owen I guess.

Highly doubt it's true, but I guess he could be ELectro. Not my #1 choice, but still.

 

[SpideyFan914]

Considering the fact that they don't even have the right release date on Spidey 4.... I'd say it's a load of -....

 

[omid17]

it's wikipedia

 

[omid17]

Not a big deal, just interesting I guess.

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/11/24/tobey-maguire-reveals-which-villain-he-favors-for-spider-man-4/

sounds like one of em will be BC imo

 

[ThatDamnNinja]

I'm putting my money on Vulture and Electro.

-Raimi expressed interest directly in those two guys in particular.

-The various strands of news seem to make a stronger case for Vulture than Black Cat (villain buys Daily Bugle, said villain has daughter that many actresses are auditioning for, definitely sounds more like Vulture-Valeria than Black Cat-"Villain Artificially Forced to be Her Father")

-They wanted to use Vulture in the last movie, and already pegged Ben Kingsley for the role. They may very well want to make up for that now.

-They said they were casting a male villain role. If Ben Kingsley is already pegged as Vulture, and they still need to cast the other one, that makes sense.

-The special effects dynamics make sense as something they would do. Vulture as the aerial villain, Electro as the super-powered, eye-candy villain.

-The character dynamics between the two would be great. Vulture as the intelligent, urbane, villainous mastermind--Electro as the simpler-minded, neurotic, unstable protegé... one who realizes how much more powerful he is than his master, and turns on him.

-Shoving Black Cat in there seems like a bad idea after Spider-Man 3. She's basically half a villain, so Black Cat and two villains is 2.5 villains (a repeat of Spider-Man 3), and Black Cat and one villain is 1.5 villains--which is unsatisfactory, especially if the other villain is the Vulture. The Vulture by himself would be pretty lame. 1.5 villains might have worked if the main antagonist was Doc Ock, but not with any of the guys we have left. Two solid villains seems like the best way to atone for Spider-Man 3.

So, predicting, and hoping for, Electro/Vulture, with all of these actresses auditioning for Valeria, not Black Cat.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Can anybody shed some light on "this"?

mehlhart.net

 

[bullets]

Nothing to really shed light on with that.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I wouldn't mind Vulture as long as he's like 'Web of Shadows' with a more Arch-Angel design & weapons.

 

[venom892]

I'm putting my money on Vulture and Electro.

-Raimi expressed interest directly in those two guys in particular.

-The various strands of news seem to make a stronger case for Vulture than Black Cat (villain buys Daily Bugle, said villain has daughter that many actresses are auditioning for, definitely sounds more like Vulture-Valeria than Black Cat-"Villain Artificially Forced to be Her Father")

-They wanted to use Vulture in the last movie, and already pegged Ben Kingsley for the role. They may very well want to make up for that now.

-They said they were casting a male villain role. If Ben Kingsley is already pegged as Vulture, and they still need to cast the other one, that makes sense.

-The special effects dynamics make sense as something they would do. Vulture as the aerial villain, Electro as the super-powered, eye-candy villain.

-The character dynamics between the two would be great. Vulture as the intelligent, urbane, villainous mastermind--Electro as the simpler-minded, neurotic, unstable protegé... one who realizes how much more powerful he is than his master, and turns on him.

-Shoving Black Cat in there seems like a bad idea after Spider-Man 3. She's basically half a villain, so Black Cat and two villains is 2.5 villains (a repeat of Spider-Man 3), and Black Cat and one villain is 1.5 villains--which is unsatisfactory, especially if the other villain is the Vulture. The Vulture by himself would be pretty lame. 1.5 villains might have worked if the main antagonist was Doc Ock, but not with any of the guys we have left. Two solid villains seems like the best way to atone for Spider-Man 3.

So, predicting, and hoping for, Electro/Vulture, with all of these actresses auditioning for Valeria, not Black Cat.

If this were the case I would love a battle Similar to MK Spider-man #2-4.Electro and Vulture worked really well in that arc.

 

[Sebastos]

Take it with a pinch of salt but apparently Wikipedia is crediting Crispin Glover as Electro on Spiderman 4.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispin_Glover

Same deal as Clive Owen I guess.

False obviously.

 

[Oscorp]

Lizard will be BORING!

What kind of chemistry would you get between him and Spidey ?

Doc?

RAAAAAAARRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

DR Connors

RAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH

Hahahaha!

Please, learn some about Lizard before you say stuff like that

 

[Rodrigo90]

If its got a good plot,instead of Spidey chasing down a mindless beast for 2 hours,then yeah. If Lizard has a good motive,instead of canniblism,then yeah. If Lizard is capable of thought and speech,then yeah.

If not...I aint interested. Cause even though Spidey 3 had major flaws,it still had villains that provided charisma and drama. Spidey could actually SPEAK with them. If Lizard has speech,then itll work for me.

But Electro and Vulture will be far better than anything that Lizard can throw.

 

[Venom'sDad]

If its got a good plot,instead of Spidey chasing down a mindless beast for 2 hours,then yeah. If Lizard has a good motive,instead of canniblism,then yeah. If Lizard is capable of thought and speech,then yeah.

If not...I aint interested. Cause even though Spidey 3 had major flaws,it still had villains that provided charisma and drama. Spidey could actually SPEAK with them. If Lizard has speech,then itll work for me.

But Electro and Vulture will be far better than anything that Lizard can throw.

Don't hold your breath, what motive could Lizard have? He's not ploting to dominate the world, or turn the world population into servants or a race of Reptilians. All he will be is a beast that Spidey chases; and, that is why Sam needs a supporting villain to offset what Lizard bring to the table. Carnage, IMHO, fills that role.

 

[zeptron]

Lizard and Carnage in the same movie? No. They're both beast-like characters. I want a more complex story than just "Oh no Carnage is on the run! Oh no Lizard is on the run!"

If you use Lizard I say bring in Electro also. A New York City blackout (caused by Electro) could make The Lizard even that much more scary. Shoot some of the scenes in the winter, and there's your reason for The Lizard to move underground to a warmer climate.

 

[Venom'sDad]

You are missing the point... if you read the link that I provided, you would see that Carnage was a mystery until he was revealed. No one knew that Carnage perpetrated the hideous crimes til the end. Lizard was blamed for the fear that ran ramppart in New York... which imo, makes it's more intriguing and thrilling; something I think the franchise has been lacking.

 

[Venom 1988]

Still don't like the idea...

 

[Rodrigo90]

We probably wont be seeing the Ultimate comics interpretations being used now. Eddie was used like that to make him like Peter in 3.

Just good ol classic interpretations...with a little bit of twist of MAKING EVIL BADGUYS BE SYMPATHETIC CRAZIES.

I want Lizard to be able to speak and make a conscience decision to be evil.
I dont want Electros powers telling him to be a criminal.
I want to see the remorseless and cruel Kraven,not his potions that drive him insane.
I want a criminal who is coldblooded and doesnt have a sympathetic reason to use as an excuse to be a criminal.

I want a symbiote who will not appear in the Spidey movies,but the Venom movie.

 

[Oscorp]

You are missing the point... if you read the link that I provided, you would see that Carnage was a mystery until he was revealed. No one knew that Carnage perpetrated the hideous crimes til the end. Lizard was blamed for the fear that ran ramppart in New York... which imo, makes it's more intriguing and thrilling; something I think the franchise has been lacking.

You could have just said that immediatly instead of linking to a wall of text. I don't like the idea, but hey, cudos to you...

 

[Michael Frost]

Why are people still insisting on Carnage?
Raimi said numerous time that he hates the symbiotes. He won't do the same thing again. Avi Arad shoved Venom under Raimi's skin, if he hated them then, he certainly will hate the symbiotes even more now.

Vulture and Electro are kinda fine for me if you keep Black Cat out. If they are to at least hint at Lizard in this movie we already have 2.5 villains without her..

 

[SymbioticToxin]

Why are people still insisting on Carnage?
Raimi said numerous time that he hates the symbiotes. He won't do the same thing again. Avi Arad shoved Venom under Raimi's skin, if he hated them then, he certainly will hate the symbiotes even more now.

Vulture and Electro are kinda fine for me if you keep Black Cat out. If they are to at least hint at Lizard in this movie we already have 2.5 villains without her..

Symbiote-wise I agree with you. Carnage really doesn't belong in Raimi's vision. In another time and place, had Raimi time to let the symbiotes gorw on him and maybe think of a way he could incorporate them in his way then maybe. But now I don't want anymore symbiotes till the Venom spinoff.

Also, Black Cat could be excellent along with Vulture and Electro. Like alot of othrs have said, make her a friend or maybe jsut make her a thief who just happens to bea t the wrong place at the wrong time and helps out Spidey. I also like the hinting at Lizard idea, that could easily set up SM5.

 

[Sawyer]

Larry David should play the Vulture.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Sir Ben Kingsley FTW

Dame Helen Mirren as Madame Web

 

[Sebastos]

Larry David should play the Vulture.

While I think Larry David is great, no.

 

[Doc Ock]

I really hope to see The Lizard as he is my favorite Spidey villain!

 

[Artistsean]

Lizard will be BORING!

What kind of chemistry would you get between him and Spidey ?

Doc?

RAAAAAAARRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

DR Connors

RAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH

The Lizard can usually talk, the idea in his first appearance is that he is slowly loosing his intelligence and Spider-Man needs to save him before he has lost it completely.