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I still don't see how that warrants them not being able to watch. Can you tell me how many Lou Thesz matches you've watched? Can you tell me a little bit about Jinsei Shinzaki?

I didn't say it warrants them as I don't agree with that part,I just meant that's how some fans are now a days!!

I've seen a couple of Lou Thesz matches But not familiar with Jinsei(not sure)
 
These kids watching Cena today, will look back in 20 years and say "These kids nowadays don't even know how good it was or a legend like Cena". They'll be the ones with all of their knowledge of past wrestlers. It's like an endless cycle.

Very true!
 
this may sound morbid, but if savage had to go i'm just glad it wasn't another drug related death
 
i've watched matches that date back to the 50's. I guess I'm a fanatic.
 
this may sound morbid, but if savage had to go i'm just glad it wasn't another drug related death

Well I have to admit,I thought the cause of death was going to be drug over dose But he had a heart attack in his car and crashed!

Either way is a bad way to go,But I am pretty relief this wasn't drug related!!
 
Sucks about Macho Man. I had high hopes that he would make a return as either A.) The GM or B.) Commentator and build up to a HoF induction.
 
Just heard the news of Macho Man Randy Savage's passing. He's one of the all time greats. I will always remember his greatest match, IMO, at Wrestlemania III against Ricky Steamboat. . . And his finisher. . . The Big Elbow from the top rope.

Rest In Peace, Macho Man.
 
One of my favorite Macho promos. Still no clue what he was talking about, but it's still ****ing awesome. :funny:
 
Randy Savage Dead at 58...Thoughts on a True Superstar

Fri, 05/20/2011 - 4:35pm — J.R.

It's been a challenging week. First, the untimely death Thursday of 22 year old Oklahoma Sooners middle linebacker and a young man I befriended, Austin Box. Today we get the shocking news of the death of Randy Savage. Life is so fragile.....a few thoughts.

I was never close to Randy Savage but I had immense respect for his in ring work. Savage was a gifted high flier, had uncanny crowd psychology and a tough, athletic persona that could not be duplicated.

'Macho Man' Randy Savage was a legit star in the world of pro wrestling and one of the most famous wrestlers of any era.

My first exposure to Savage was in the early to mid 80's when Bill Watts was preparing to bring Savage into the Mid South territory. We had received several interviews and other video tape from Randy to compile 4-6 weeks of introductory vignettes that would intro Savage to the Mid South TV audience most of who had never seen 'Macho Man' Randy Savage in person.

I can still vividly remember working with fellow Watts employee Scott Munz on the edit of the vignettes while writing copy and then voicing over the features.

Ironically, after working several long nights on this project the vignettes never aired. Savage never made it to Mid South.

At that time, according to a text message earlier today from Watts himself, Savage was running 'opposition' against the Jarrett/Lawler 'Tennessee' territory. This business strategy put Savage on the wrong side of many promoters especially those who were friends of Jarrett and company and certainly those who supported NWA camps.

According to Watts, Savage was in need of bookings and the paydays that went along with them and wanted to come to work for the big Cowboy. I recall looking at the footage of Savage with Bill and we were both obviously impressed with what we saw.

Watts had a good relationship at that time with Jerry Jarrett, they even did a talent trade once upon a time that helped both territories, and Bill knew that if Jarrett/Lawler/Savage could work together that they could all make money as the volatile 'opposition' plot line had received main stream, local publicity and had piqued the publics interest.

Watts was able to help broker 'peace' between Jarrett and Savage by having, as I recall, a very stern, man to man talk with Savage about missed opportunities and the fact that most old school promoters would always look upon Randy unfavorably because of his family running opposition especially if Randy was not willing to extend the olive branch.

The rest is essentially wrestling history. Peace was restored in the Jarrett/Lawler/Savage area while King and Macho Man launched one of the hottest issues ever in the business. The two artisans sold out the legendary Rupp Arena in Lexington, Kentucky that held well over 20,000 fans with more fans buying tickets to that event than virtually any other indoor event of that era including such famous arenas as Madison Square Garden.

In 1985 Savage roared into the WWE and his star was hung prominently for the entire world to see and did it ever shine brightly!

BTW after Savage left WWE and doing huge business while earning mega bucks, Randy called Bill Watts to thank Bill for Cowboy's advice back in the day which eventually got Savage noticed as a potential, main event acquisition for WWE.
Randy Savage is arguably one of the top 2-3 wrestlers that helped establish the WWE as the dominate promotion of its kind in the world. Savage deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Andre, Hulk, Piper, etc.

When I arrived in WWE in 1993, Savage was, unknown to me, on his way out. Randy, Bobby Heenan and I broadcast WM9 from ringside at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas on my first live, TV assignment for WWE. Broadcasting with 'Macho Man' was never easy but it was also never dull. He was as unpredictable wearing headsets as he was in his wrestling tights.

Unpredictability and breaking molds is a marketable trait and without question 'Macho Man' Randy Savage was one of the most marketable, unforgettable persona's to ever grace the squared circle.

Savage as a pitchman for Slim Jim was an instant success and forged an unforgettable image for the Slim Jim company that Randy literally put on his broad shoulders and carried to prominence back in the day when Slim Jim was attempting to gain a foothold in the snack food market. Some might argue that Savage is as well known for his ubiquitous Slim Jim commercials as he was for his wrestling exploits.

In my over four decades in the business, I have never encountered anyone who I perceived was as intense, 24X7, as 'Macho Man' Randy Savage. He was a gifted athlete, he played minor league baseball a handful of years, and brought artful athleticism and raw reality to his profession.

Before I ever stepped foot in WWE, I thought, as one who was earning a living in the business elsewhere, that the Savage-Steamboat match from WM3 was the best WWE match that I had ever seen. A handful of other bouts since then have ranked right up there with it but after a quarter of a century the 'Macho Man-Dragon' encounter from the Pontiac Silverdome still holds up today as an all time wrestling classic.

One never had to guess where they stood with Savage and he never had any issues expressing himself. He was, seemingly, always on edge or, perhaps more specifically, on point. Randy carried himself as one not to be trifled with and as a man who had great passion for his profession and unmatched intensity.

Fans of the genre of pro wrestling lost one of the most famous and skilled performers of all time this morning in Tampa when the former WWE Champion apparently had a heart attack while driving his vehicle with his wife of one year who was the sole passenger.

Our condolences go out to the Poffo family, Macho Man's friends and fans and to all whose lives were touched by 'Macho Madness.'

RIP Macho Man Randy Savage.


http://www.jrsbarbq.com/blog/randy-savage-dead-58thoughts-true-superstar
 
Heard about the news today. Such a tragic death.

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I still don't see how that warrants them not being able to watch. Can you tell me how many Lou Thesz matches you've watched? Can you tell me a little bit about Jinsei Shinzaki?

I agree with this big time. I have watched wrestling for about 20 years now, but I've never seen one of those guys wrestle. I understand their place in the history books, but far be it from me to act like I'm a know it all. I always try to compare guys from my era to their contemporaries instead of of people I have never seen before. Shawn Michaels to me is the greatest performer ever, but I that's just me with only knowledge coming from the late 80s. I can't compare him to Bruno Sammartino because I wasn't around during Bruno's run. Every generation is going to be missing out on something, so I wouldn't bash them for not seeing greats from my era because I never saw greats from my parents era like the Von Erichs.

Cena still sucks, and is incredibly boring though.:o
 
I missed the beginning was there any kind of mention of Macho at the beginning of Smackdown?
 
RIP Macho Man. I hope you're showing angels how to snap into a Slim Jim.:csad:
 
When I logged in and saw the thread title I thought it was cool, I was going to just click on and say as much, but I decided to read the first page to see what the discussions were that had moved the thread along so quickly in such a down time for the business, then I saw the post, it took me off guard, one of the true legends has gone. :(

Jim Ross has written a great piece there on Savage, one of the top 5 in ring performers ever IMO, a true all rounder of a star and very much in that group with Hogan, Piper and Andre as the biggest drawing stars of the first boom period.

Make it real



One of Randy's greatest gifts was to make you feel, whether it was anger at the things he did as a heel, or awe at his guts as a face, his matches were of the variety that pulled you in, where you forgot you were watching a work, his intensity and passion felt as raw as if it were all real, perhaps in his case at times, it was. His feuds with Jake Roberts and Ric Flair were amongst the best ever and every step of the way Macho's intensity and desire to right the wrongs of the two heels burned through the screen, you believed he really wanted to rip their heads off, conversely he could piss you as a heel, with his obnoxious and arrogant persona and dirty tactics, he was one of the true complete performers, he could do it all.

Legacy



In pro wrestling legacy is a tricky thing as many stay on too long, but in Randy's case he really only had one bad spell, up until 98 when he hurt his knee he was still one of the best performers around, and it was only his short runs after that in WCW and briefly in TNA that are a black mark on an otherwise amazing career. For me he is one of the top 5 workers ever, one of the most complete all round performers ever and aside from Shawn Michaels and Taker he has the best Wrestlemania matches CV. His title win at Wrestlemania IV is one of the most enduring memories of my childhood when I first got into wrestling.

There are good wrestlers and great wrestlers, but few true Legends, Randy Savage was one of the latter.

RIP.
 
Wow, This Cody Rhodes/Dibiase (Corpus Christi) thing is almost racist.
 
Looks like Chavo had some work done on the roof. That was a decent match between he and Bryan. I'd like to see them wrestle each other with more time and without the burden of getting over a another program though.


When I logged in and saw the thread title I thought it was cool, I was going to just click on and say as much, but I decided to read the first page to see what the discussions were that had moved the thread along so quickly in such a down time for the business, then I saw the post, it took me off guard, one of the true legends has gone. :(

Jim Ross has written a great piece there on Savage, one of the top 5 in ring performers ever IMO, a true all rounder of a star and very much in that group with Hogan, Piper and Andre as the biggest drawing stars of the first boom period.

Make it real



One of Randy's greatest gifts was to make you feel, whether it was anger at the things he did as a heel, or awe at his guts as a face, his matches were of the variety that pulled you in, where you forgot you were watching a work, his intensity and passion felt as raw as if it were all real, perhaps in his case at times, it was. His feuds with Jake Roberts and Ric Flair were amongst the best ever and every step of the way Macho's intensity and desire to right the wrongs of the two heels burned through the screen, you believed he really wanted to rip their heads off, conversely he could piss you as a heel, with his obnoxious and arrogant persona and dirty tactics, he was one of the true complete performers, he could do it all.

Legacy



In pro wrestling legacy is a tricky thing as many stay on too long, but in Randy's case he really only had one bad spell, up until 98 when he hurt his knee he was still one of the best performers around, and it was only his short runs after that in WCW and briefly in TNA that are a black mark on an otherwise amazing career. For me he is one of the top 5 workers ever, one of the most complete all round performers ever and aside from Shawn Michaels and Taker he has the best Wrestlemania matches CV. His title win at Wrestlemania IV is one of the most enduring memories of my childhood when I first got into wrestling.

There are good wrestlers and great wrestlers, but few true Legends, Randy Savage was one of the latter.

RIP.

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Agreed on all points. He really is among the elite of the Hogan era and one of the top babyfaces behind Hogan. His intensity was second to none and he brimmed with emotion every time he came out. He was that rare breed who may have worked just as well as a babyface as he did as a heel.

Also agree that the only times he ever really looked off point were when he returned for his final run in WCW with the new look and added muscle mass and his brief stint in TNA. He still called it a day long before he went to far in tarnishing his image.

I think your thoughts mirror my own. Macho Man was true legend who carved his own unique path
 
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