Once robots are capable of imagination and compassion will humans be obsolete?

[MessiahDecoy123]

Will we be obsolete once artificial intelligence is capable of imagination and compassion?

Are there any traits that will make humans obsolete once machines have gained them?

 

[Speedball]

Been watching too much BSG or the Matrix have we?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Especially consider the fact that whatever traits machines gain they can be adjusted to exceed human capabilties.

 

[Manic]

"A lie! No man is obsolete!"
-Wordsworth, The Twilight Zone "The Obsolete Man"

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Been watching too much BSG or the Matrix have we?

Is this a theme of BSG? I never watched it.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

"A lie! No man is obsolete!"
-Wordsworth, The Twilight Zone "The Obsolete Man"

If machines exceed us in every way, what would be our purpose as humans?

 

[TEDDY]

Arnold Schwarzeneger is the governator of California: I think the robot take-over has already begun!


SOMEBODY CALL WILL SMITH!!!

 

[Speedball]

Is this a theme of BSG? I never watched it.

Epic Fail on your part for not watching the greatest Sci Fi show EVAR!

The Cylons eventually "evolve" into a humanoid species of 13 models. They're not robots at all, but still AI. They're genetically modified to be perfect, except they can't have children. When a cylon dies, if they're close enough to a resurrection Hub, they can be reborn in a new body. There are multiple copies of a single model running around at one time, and they all have their own personalities.
They're "plan" was to wipe out humanity because the Cylons believed they were superior to their former masters. But some Cylons eventually break away from them, believing that the Humans will lead them to their genetic destiny.

It turned out that the Cylons have been around much longer than Humans, and came from the original Earth.

 

[Manic]

If machines exceed us in every way, what would be our purpose as humans?

Chancellor:You are obsolete, Mr.Wordsworth!

Wordsworth: A lie, no man is obsolete!

Chancellor: You have no function, Mr.Wordsworth. You're an innacuranism, like a ghost from another time....

Wordsworth: I am nothing more than a reminder to you that you cannot destroy truth by burning pages!

Chancellor: You're a bug,Mr.Wordsworth. A crawling insect. An ugly, misformed, little creature, that has no purpose here, no meaning!

Wordsworth: I am a human being...

Chancellor: You're a librarian, Mr.Wordsworth. You're a dealer in books and two cent finds and pamphlets in closed stacks in the musty finds of a language factory that spews meaningless words on an assembly line. WORDS, Mr.WORDSworth. That have no substance, no dimension, like air, like the wind. Like a vacuum, that you make believe have an existence, by scribbling index numbers on little cards.

Wordsworth: I don't care. I tell you: I don't care. I'm a human being, I exist....and if I speak one thought aloud, that thought lives, even after I'm shoveled into my grave.






Granted, the episode is about a librarian deemed obsolete (and thus put to death) by the state because there are no more libraries. Still, you should watch that episode of The Twilight Zone. If not for the message within its dialogue, then for the awesomeness that is Burgess Meredith!

 

[SuperFerret]

If machines exceed us in every way, what would be our purpose as humans?

Simple. Kill the robots.

 

[Arc-Light]

Epic Fail on your part for not watching the greatest Sci Fi show EVAR!

Ugh....not even close......how about some sci-fi with all that crap drama. It wasn't bad, but give me a break. Anyways i don't think robots will ever have an imagination so we are safe in that department.

 

[Manic]

Ugh....not even close......how about some sci-fi with all that crap drama.

I see you come from the Star Trek School of Science Fiction That Uses Its Science As A Plot Point Rather Than Just A Backdrop.

And what do you mean "crap" drama?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Anyways i don't think robots will ever have an imagination so we are safe in that department.

Why wouldn't we be able to make machine capable of imagination?

If the human brain is a physical object it's fuctions can be replicated from a synthetic brain.

 

[Speedball]

Ugh....not even close......how about some sci-fi with all that crap drama. It wasn't bad, but give me a break. Anyways i don't think robots will ever have an imagination so we are safe in that department.

Don't come crying to me when the Cylons nuke your house.

 

[Arc-Light]

I see you come from the Star Trek School of Science Fiction That Uses Its Science As A Plot Point Rather Than Just A Backdrop.

And what do you mean "crap" drama?

Nah..really it was a good show just not the best ever......but when i watch sci-fi i want sci-fi........

 

[Speedball]

Why wouldn't we be able to make machine capable of imagination?

If the human brain is a physical object it's fuctions can be replicated from a synthetic brain.

Exactly. The Brain is just a fleshy computer anyway. We're all really machines, whether people want to admit it or not.

 

[Manic]

Nah..really it was a good show just not the best ever......but when i watch sci-fi i want sci-fi........

It was a show that took place in deep space, wherein the last of humanity was fighting a losing war against evolved machines. What, there wasn't enough technobabble for you?

 

[Arc-Light]

Don't come crying to me when the Cylons nuke your house.

If it is one of the lady Cylons....i wouldn't mind....t:

 

[Speedball]

If it is one of the lady Cylons....i wouldn't mind....t:

It's kinda sad that there is only one hot male cylon (Anders), but all the Cylon women are hot as hell.

 

[Arc-Light]

It was a show that took place in deep space, wherein the last of humanity was fighting a losing war against evolved machines. What, there wasn't enough technobabble for you?

It was...it started out great...but like i said...the writers must have ran out of ideas.....so they injected unnecessary drama into the show.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Also I wonder if human compassion and imagination CAN be exceeded.

Doesn't too much compassion defy logic? What would the art of a more imaginative race look like? Would it defy comprehension?

I guess I'm asking how would excess imagination and compassion manifest?

 

[Arc-Light]

It's kinda sad that there is only one hot male cylon (Anders), but all the Cylon women are hot as hell.

Really my gf thought a good majority of the guys were attractive...

 

[Aesop Rocks]

The 600 series had rubber skin. We spotted them easy, but these are new. They look human... sweat, bad breath, everything. Very hard to spot. I had to wait till he moved on you before I could zero on him. - Kyle Resse on proving your thread wrong.

 

[katie_girl09]

Will we be obsolete once artificial intelligence is capable of imagination and compassion?

I'm not entirely sold on the idea that this is possible. But even then... well, we kill them.

 

[Speedball]

Really my gf thought a good majority of the guys were attractive...

The only other one that I find attractive is Chief, but he's not hot like Anders is.
The others are so old...