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I can't be mad about this. Why? Because it makes perfect sense that this happens. Peter would never make a choice on his own like that. He HAS to talk to Mj first. MJ loves Peter to death. so she's willing to give up their love and happiness for Peter's happiness. This will make MJ the Greatest. Character. Ever. Way better than Gwen. (Gwen may have/do the same thing if she were put in this position, but she's dead. Oh well.)

Now let's see, can harry come back because of this? What things will happen now that the marriage never happen? Anythig's possible, and I'm looking forward to this... all because this may make MJ the Greatest. Character. Ever.

And I swear, Jackpot better be MJ!:cmad:
 
Greatest character ever? You think so? I just think choosing a woman who's lived a full life over your wife is pretty selfish and a ***** move. He's dealt with Aunt May dying before, why not now? Instead he chooses to warp reality to be with a woman, who may die from old age soon anyway, over living the rest of his life. I just don't like this.
 
I can't be mad about this. Why? Because it makes perfect sense that this happens. Peter would never make a choice on his own like that. He HAS to talk to Mj first. MJ loves Peter to death. so she's willing to give up their love and happiness for Peter's happiness. This will make MJ the Greatest. Character. Ever. Way better than Gwen. (Gwen may have/do the same thing if she were put in this position, but she's dead. Oh well.)

Now let's see, can harry come back because of this? What things will happen now that the marriage never happen? Anythig's possible, and I'm looking forward to this... all because this may make MJ the Greatest. Character. Ever.

And I swear, Jackpot better be MJ!:cmad:

...You are being sarcastic right?
 
Greatest character ever? You think so? I just think choosing a woman who's lived a full life over your wife is pretty selfish and a ***** move. He's dealt with Aunt May dying before, why not now? Instead he chooses to warp reality to be with a woman, who may die from old age soon anyway, over living the rest of his life. I just don't like this.
I said Mj will be the GCE. Peter is still a loser. I love him though.
 
Well....

I'm done.

**** it.

I grew up reading Spidey comics. I"ve read the character most of my life and many different storylines he was in. The Peter Parker I know wouldn't make this decision. The PP who let May Parker die with dignity, grew up, married Mary Jane Watson, put his past behind him and began raising a family.

Wow. To think when JMS took ovver, MJ "left" Peter because Mackie and JOy Q thought they could write her out. And we saw JMS as the hero who would triumphantly bring 'em back together (and he did). Only for it to all end like this.

The last 20 years of stories never happened. While I'm glad that means no Sins Past, The Other and hopefully Civil WAr bull**** (but I doubt that one). It means no marriage, Kraven's Last Hunt, Venom (if this is a proper, retcon, whichi t won't be), Sins of Our Fathers, Ben Reilly, Baby May, Hobgoblin's original identity revealed, The Child Within, Harry's death and many other great points completely erased.

And if they aren't erased this is half aassed. If the marriage is the only aspect erased, would MJ still not know he is Spidey (as she figured it back in the very beginning)?

Oh why bother. Peter is being frozen back into the '70s (a great era, but it has passed). Joey Q can regurgitate inferior versions of all the stories from his childhood for the "new fans," and never let Peter grow up, fall in love or marry because that would "age" him.

Half the comics of my childhood are gone. My respect for Marvel is gone as well. I'm not buying a new (back issues are always great) Spidey comic again.

I'm done.

Fini.

**** you Joey Q.
 
...You are being sarcastic right?
It's honestly the only way I can get through to BND. Looking at MJ as the one making this choice helps. A lot, actually. Because otherwise, it will only make me think of Peter as a complete idiot. Which is funny, because JMS's Peter is the only Peter I really "liked." Before, it was the character of Spider-Man I couldn't wait to see, but JMS made peter more likable for me.
 
Well....

I'm done.

**** it.

I grew up reading Spidey comics. I"ve read the character most of my life and many different storylines he was in. The Peter Parker I know wouldn't make this decision. The PP who let May Parker die with dignity, grew up, married Mary Jane Watson, put his past behind him and began raising a family.

Wow. To think when JMS took ovver, MJ "left" Peter because Mackie and JOy Q thought they could write her out. And we saw JMS as the hero who would triumphantly bring 'em back together (and he did). Only for it to all end like this.

The last 20 years of stories never happened. While I'm glad that means no Sins Past, The Other and hopefully Civil WAr bull**** (but I doubt that one). It means no marriage, Kraven's Last Hunt, Venom (if this is a proper, retcon, whichi t won't be), Sins of Our Fathers, Ben Reilly, Baby May, Hobgoblin's original identity revealed, The Child Within, Harry's death and many other great points completely erased.

And if they aren't erased this is half aassed. If the marriage is the only aspect erased, would MJ still not know he is Spidey (as she figured it back in the very beginning)?

Oh why bother. Peter is being frozen back into the '70s (a great era, but it has passed). Joey Q can regurgitate inferior versions of all the stories from his childhood for the "new fans," and never let Peter grow up, fall in love or marry because that would "age" him.

Half the comics of my childhood are gone. My respect for Marvel is gone as well. I'm not buying a new (back issues are always great) Spidey comic again.

I'm done.

Fini.

**** you Joey Q.
Lol. Back issues are always fun.:(
 
It's a shame.

Where as Gwen was just canon fodder waiting to happen, I feel like I actually know MJ. It's going to suck having her taken out of the picture.

Maybe Loki comes and helps Peter out of this mess with Mephisto? Remember, Loki does owe Peter a favor...
 
Hell, I hate to say it, and it's not even about the marriage anymore. It's the history. I rather MJ dead than them pulling a ****ing DC type crisis peice of ****. THAT IS COMPLETE BULL****! It's a ****ing crisis. There's a reason I stay away from DC. No matter how much I like Batman, I can never enjoy him knowing part of his history is another batman's history. The only DC Titles i can read are Robin, Teen titans, and Blue Beetle because I'm not confused.

But it's ok. I'm giving BND a chance. It's not fair for the new teams that we're taking out our angry on what could be some good writing.... *sigh*
 
Awww man, I just read the previous page..:csad:

It seems now they really are gonna kill the marriage and this just makes me feel really empty inside. WHAT THE F**K IS WRONG W/ JQ AND JMS?!!!!! If you look at ASM#509 till now, and what looks to be the inevitable outcome of OMD, it really seems as though they have no regard for the whole Spider-Man mythos and that they are actually trying to wreck the comics completely.

Man, it's such a downer that the last few years here have been 90% b-itching about how crap stuff is and then the other 10% of the time praising the occasional great comic. It should be the other way round! Like everyone else here I love Spidey comics, but it's getting really hard to be optimistic about the future. How am I, or any self respecting fan supposed to be excited about post OMD issues if the marriage is wiped and maybe even the last 20 years worth of events never even happened? Urghhh...

We are now looking down the barrel of something w/ ramifications that are far worse than SP or The Other.
How can TMOB remain so calm?....

Why did JMS bring PP and MJ back together a few years ago, just to ret con the whole marriage now? Y'see this could go two ways- 1) the marriage gets wiped from existence but Peter stills lives in the now, or 2) Everything from the past 20 years gets wiped and Spidey gets sent back in time to when he was in his early 20's, Harry was still alive and before he wed MJ.

If it's option two and he gets sent back in time then I will drop ASM and that will be that. I don't want to, but they will have changed so much since SP and in turn strayed so far from Spider-Man's world that I will no longer want in. Ret con'ing the last 20 years worth of comics is the equivalent to saying screw you to the readership. If however, the marriage is wiped but PP is not sent back in time and the rest of the past 20 years printed continuity is still intact then I will give the ASM x3 per month a chance. But, hell- how am I supposed to be optimistic and happy about the book changing hands if the marriage is wiped?!

...I just don't get it.
EVERYONE loves MJ don't they?!?! I hope Quesada gets a heart attack soon if the marriage is going to get wiped. I'm kinda lost for words... I can only hope that if this does come to pass, that somehow it is only temporary and PP and MJ will be reunited... Why the f-uck don we get to vote on this like when Robin died? If the outcome of OMD was to be determined by a vote, I know that the fans would keep MJ.

I REALLLLY hope all this does not come true.
 
It's honestly the only way I can get through to BND. Looking at MJ as the one making this choice helps. A lot, actually. Because otherwise, it will only make me think of Peter as a complete idiot. Which is funny, because JMS's Peter is the only Peter I really "liked." Before, it was the character of Spider-Man I couldn't wait to see, but JMS made peter more likable for me.

I agree that if it's both Peter AND Mary Jane who make this decision together (and it looks like according to the CBG they will) it's not nearly as bad. However, it's still bad because:

1. A lot of folks guessed something like this would happen. Sort of like the Other. Not many knew the fine details but everybody guessed the action line.

2. It completely screws up a lot of continuity. For example, if [BLACKOUT]Peter never married MJ[/BLACKOUT] then he should still be wearing the black costume from time to time, because the only reason he stopped wearing it was because it reminded MJ of Venom, who went to her specifically to intimidate her because she was Peter's wife. But if she never was, then Venom would never have gone there.

It gets better. The unmasking will be erased (yay!) because, since Peter made his decision to reveal his identity based on his family asking him to, and since he'll [BLACKOUT]never have married MJ[/BLACKOUT] and therefore his reason to ultimately unmask will be null and void. However, this completely screws up Civil War because a good portion of that story revolves around Spidey having a public ID, which means portions of his will be cut out. This also includes Aunt May getting sniped (which also means all of Back in Black is gone). But if Spidey never revealed his identity, then Spidey wouldn't have left Stark Tower, and the Kingpin wouldn't have put the hit out on Spidey, which means Aunt May would never have been shot, which means she wouldn't be close to death, which means Spidey would not have been forced to [blackout]choose between Aunt May's life and his marriage to Mary Jane.[/BLACKOUT] Thus we have ourselves a paradox not unlike the time traveler going back in time and killing his/her own grandfather/grandmother, thus never existing, and thus never going back in time, and thus the grandfather still being alive.

Or how about the clone saga, which will be even more convoluted. That's because a good portion of it revolved around Peter and MJ being married. [BLACKOUT]But if they were never married[/BLACKOUT], then Baby May would never have been conceived, and since the complications to her pregnancy was the reason why Peter and Ben tested themselves to see who was the clone, since it was feared that if Peter was the clone, that was why MJ's unborn child was in danger. So how did they resolve who was the original this time around. Also, the Green Goblin would not have got involved with the "miscarriage," which means Peter would not have gone to find his daughter, which means he never would have found the real Aunt May, which means he would still think Aunt May is dead, which means she wouldn't be on death's door this time around, and so the paradox begins again.

The only good thing out of this partial erasure it seems is that MJ will no longer be a guilt-ridden liar concerning Gwen and Norman's mutant ninja kids, although technically they would still exist and MJ wouldn't have been there to stop Peter from being macked on by Sarah and Peter wouldn't feel so guilty because he's not cheating on his wife since he's not married, so I guess, technically he's a pedophile with necrophiliac tendencies considering that Sarah is in reality ten years old and looks exactly like her mom. Anyone still think this move doesn't open a whole bunches of cans of worms?

3. Any relationship Peter gets involved in from now on with any woman, including Mary Jane, is pointless because, since we all know he can't be married, then any relationship he has is doomed to fail, so why should readers be emotionally invested in soap opera style love triangles.

4. It's just another instance in which Mary Jane is the scapegoat for what Marvel believes is the problem with Spider-Man when all they have to do is look in the mirror.
 
There will be no ninja kids.

If this ret con happens then SP will have never happened, because basically it had never happened untill JQ and JMS thought of it, and it's a load of crap that does not even fit into continuity. The revelations of SP have been ignored since the arc wrapped and the ret con will erase it's fowl smell forever.

Why can't this just be a ret con of JMS' run, that would be so much better.
That and if PP and MJ must split up- the deal is to get a divorce, so that they can get back together again in the future.
 
There will be no ninja kids.

If this ret con happens then SP will have never happened, because basically it had never happened untill JQ and JMS thought of it, and it's a load of crap that does not even fit into continuity. The revelations of SP have been ignored since the arc wrapped and the ret con will erase it's fowl smell forever.

Unfortunately, it's only partly true because, apparently, Gwen and Norman would've had babies regardless of whether or not Peter was married (barf!) Fortunately, you're right in saying that [BLACKOUT]Sins Past[/BLACKOUT] was such a load of crap, it's already been discounted, just like Chapter One was, and that's before One More Day ever got off the ground.

Why can't this just be a ret con of JMS' run, that would be so much better.
Technically, I bet JMS is shooting for exactly that with One More Day, now that we know what it involves, which basically means JMS said "HA HA! My entire run was pretty much all a dream, which means you didn't need to buy anything I wrote. Aren't I a mother******* genuis!"

That and if PP and MJ must split up- the deal is to get a divorce, so that they can get back together again in the future.

Because such that simple makes Peter "too old" to Joe Quesada.
 
Even though you cant see twenty years into the future as a time that will someday exist, would you rather continuity have a forty year old Peter Parker in 2027? I agree that JQ is the worst thing ever and this decision is ******ed, but I think that eventually all or some continuity should be abandoned.

I dont read Batman because of his history and continuity and convuluted affairs, but because he is a compelling character with the potential for great stories, most of which take place outside of DC con.
 
My two cents:

I re-read the Annual [yes, the annual] and wept. The marriage was shown perfect there [as perfect as it can get when you're a fugitive]. But it's such a good dynamic. 'I love her. I couldn't survive without her!' Now all this is going to be destroyed...

:csad:

Plus, if I'd have the choice, I'd choose MJ no doubt about it. Hey, at least I'd have the occasional shag as opposed to wheatcakes. :o

But seriously...ugh...I want the Spider-Marriage. AT LEAST GIVE PETER A f'king BREAK WITH THE WOMAN HE LOVES!?!?!


 
This is why writers need to pay attention to what stories they create. No matter how good a story is, writing yourself into a corner is the worst thing that could happen. The Unmasking, The Other, and Back in Black are all examples of this. They all lead us to this point where the only way out of the problem is to say "a wizard did it." And by it, I mean retcon several decades of his life.
 
Arghy........this all pretty much confirms it..........

But didn't we all already know what was going to happen??

JQ has painted that walls with his banter about this scneario for years.

Being married myself and also a nurse,...i can't imagine saving an old aunt of mine, a grandma (Anyone that i love) who has lived a full life at the risk of losing my wife forever, being mindwiped and timeswept of of continuity per say. (even if my wife was a part of the decision.)

So, Aunt May can live forever, like Bilbo Baggins....her life stretched thin...with Pete crying and finding ways to mess with reality every time she is ill to to keep her alive longer,...no matter the cost and how much he messes with everything else in his life?? IS he THAT dumb???

Sorry, but this storyline is SO forced. It is a JQ agenda. Not a story.

And the funny thing is..there are still some that STILL don't think JQ is gonna break up the marriage.

So, they are still married, but just won't realize it tho....basically.

How grand. :whatever:
 
Oh, and don't forget MJ gets super powers. Not getting married somehow gives her those.
 
MJ wins when using a radiated slot machine, and thus becomes The Amazing Jackpot
 
I'm not sure if everyone has seen this yet and if so I'm very surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but some major, MAJOR spoiler about "One More Day" has come out courtesy of the most recent edition of the Comic Buyers Guide...
and it's been revealed by no other than J. Michael Straczynski himself.
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This pretty much confirms what virtually everybody has suspected about this story since it was first announced and I guess we all have a pretty good idea what Peter's final decision will be. Looks like we got ourselves a Superboy Prime Retcon Punch that will create more continuity problems than it solves and erase virtually twenty years of stories all because Peter Parker must be akin to Peter Pan and not grow up. Thanks a lot Joe Q...NOT.

Wow...this is going to suck ass. JMS pretty much tells us that
MJ and Peter are done.

Well, looks like I'll probably be dropping the Spidey books until Slott takes over. Maybe he can salvage the stinking shi...er, I mean, sinking ship.
 
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