One More Day Discussion Thread

[TheCorpulent1]

Heh, I like how there's still that one voice of contention in the soundbytes Joezymandias Q hears for him to write off as "the vocal minority" on message boards.

 

[PhotoJones]

Morg will smite you. It is his terrible-at-modding way.

 

[Miss Webb]

Has anyone who was steadfastly opposed to buying BND on principle decided that will in fact give it a shot?

Well, I'll peep at it when I check out my box this week. Still, you're kind of caught: if you decide to try it out and buy it, it will look like support of the Qster. Ack.

"Systemic deconstruction of the Spiderverse continues ad hoc, and is necessary for new universal order. Rejections not observed, positive feedback acknowledged. We Rule either way."

-MU, conquerors of Jellyfish, Suckups and Soap Droppers

 

[Miss Webb]

people being annoyed by "(insert whatever here) = pinheads" comparisons = oh well t:

lol, *head explodes*

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, I'll peep at it when I check out my box this week. Still, you're kind of caught: if you decide to try it out and buy it, it will look like support of the Qster. Ack.

Read it in the shop.

 

[Themanofbat]

I posted this in the Spider-Man Forums, but I'll repost it here...

Anyway, it's clearly obvious now that Joe Quesada is attempting to employ the same strategy as Howard Stern--shock the fans and get them so outraged that they'll end up buying the books just to see what happens next. And I hope it really backfires on him.

I hope not... because then we'd have to do a "Clone Saga" Rewrite all over again just to go back to the previous status quo, which will inevitably just confuse fans even more...

I wasn't too thrilled with the outcome of OMD nor did I even remotely like its execution. But IF they end up having to "retcon" (F^%@#ck, I hate that f^%#&%cking word ) the stuff from OMD, then the Spider-Man comics will be running rampant like a headless chicken, much like it was after the complicated 2 1/2 years of back'n forth that was the Clone Saga of the 90's. Had they made up their minds back then and stuck to their guns, we would have never endured that nor see the needless return of Norman Osborn, with the ridiculous status of having been responsible for every bad event in Peter's life.

It's not much different now with the seemingly needless return of Harry, but Marvel seems to have a clearer purpose with the Spider-Books (unlike after the Clone Saga), so I'm hoping it works because as I said, if it doesn't, then we'll be in an even bigger mess than we've seen in years... including the farce that was OMD.

And that, my fellow Spider-Peers, is merely my two cents...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Apparently, every life-altering retcon in the Spider-universe brings back another Osborn. I wonder, if they ever retcon OMD out, would a full-grown Normie Osborn from the MC2-verse pop into the 616 timeline?

 

[Blader5489]

So despite vehemently posting to the contrary, did Dan Slott lie? Over at Jinxworld, someone asked what was so important A: TI #7 since OMD just ended up erased the unmasking with inexplicable magic. Slott replied:

et's revisit this after you've read the John Romita Jr. feature in ASM #546...

...but it was very important. Really. All will make sense soon...​

Marvel just released this today, a short feature drawn by JRJR, which is apparently included in ASM #546. You have to squint to make out the text, but you'll notice that it has absolutely nothing to do with A: TI #7.

So...wtf is up? What was the point of A: TI #7? Why did Slott say we should wait for JRJR's page in ASM #546 when said page has nothing to do with A:TI #7?
​

 

[Darthphere]

Yeah, looks like Dan lied.

I guess the par that says that people remember him unmasking during Civil War, but don't remember who was under the mask is his tie-in into A:TI #7, but it really doesn't show me that.

 

[Themanofbat]

The text seems rather small, and there may be more pages than the 2 page splash... looks like we'll have to wait and see.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

So despite vehemently posting to the contrary, did Dan Slott lie? Over at Jinxworld, someone asked what was so important A: TI #7 since OMD just ended up erased the unmasking with inexplicable magic. Slott replied:

Marvel just released this today, a short feature drawn by JRJR, which is apparently included in ASM #546. You have to squint to make out the text, but you'll notice that it has absolutely nothing to do with A: TI #7.

So...wtf is up? What was the point of A: TI #7? Why did Slott say we should wait for JRJR's page in ASM #546 when said page has nothing to do with A:TI #7?
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[/RIGHT]

Heh, even past Spider-Man creators are confused about what's up with Spider-Man's continuity.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Stupid Newsarama. I wish I could read that

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Newsarama's blocked for you?

 

[Doc Destruction]

No, I'm stuck in a perpetual limbo with some other users. To us, it's 12-10-2007 forever in Newsarama and we have our own phantom zone forum that no one else can read.

No one at Newsarama seems to know why, either.

 

[Darthphere]

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Huh. Well, here's the post. You'll just have to take my word for it that it actually exists and I'm not making **** up.

So--did Harry still get married to Liz Allen and have a kid or what? And if his dad is alive--why does Harry hate Spider-Man?

 

[stillanerd]

Heh, even past Spider-Man creators are confused about what's up with Spider-Man's continuity.

And he's exactly right about that. What's Harry's motivation to hate Spider-Man now? That Spidey exposed his dad? That his own father brainwashed him? Plus, does even Norman Osborn know who Spider-Man is anymore? That "status quo" art page also says that nobody knows Peter is Spider-Man. It says Daredevil and the New Avengers don't but does that include Norman? Venom? The Black Cat? Mary Jane? If that's the case, then they really ruined a lot of characterization.

EDIT: Also, I remember Erik Larsen on Newsarama also saying that if Marvel used a "magic reset button" to erase the marriage rather than simply have Peter and MJ divorce, then it was likely to piss off a lot of fans. So even a guy who agreed with Joe Q's stance that a Spider-Man being married was wrong for the character saw this particular move by Marvel as a bad idea.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

Heh, even past Spider-Man creators are confused about what's up with Spider-Man's continuity.

I love that their own employees are having trouble decpihering this story....welcome to crisis with infinite spidey stories

 

[wobbly]

I like the "Any questions? Don't ask us!".

Yep, they clearly haven't got a friggin clue how they can make this crap work...Will likely rely on what Joss Whedon calls 'fan-wanks' to fill in the black hole size gaps they have gone and made for themselves here.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The thing that really bugs me about the changes, according to that 2-page spread, is that the events of the past weren't so much undone as they were magically made unknowable to people. People remember Peter unmasking but don't remember who he was? Come on! And the fact that it extends back to everyone who ever knew Pete's identity makes even less sense. Does that mean Norman remembers terrorizing Spider-Man both in and out of his costume for years but doesn't quite remember just whom he was terrorizing? What about Gwen's death? If Norman remembers that, wouldn't he be left wondering why he specifically dogged that one woman in particular? Did he just have some mysterious knowledge that her death would hurt Spider-Man more than anyone else's, just 'cause? Blurgh...

 

[wobbly]

I love that their own employees are having trouble decpihering this story....welcome to crisis with infinite spidey stories

I think Quesada had such a hard-on to get this brain fart in print he just didn't give a sh#t about how to make it really work.

A case of just get the thing out there and figure out how to deal with (or ignore) all the problems later.

Just like Crisis...

 

[stillanerd]

Just remember, Corp, "It's MAGIC! We don't have to explain it."

 

[PhotoJones]

Heh, even past Spider-Man creators are confused about what's up with Spider-Man's continuity.

I ****ing love Erik Larsen. t:

In regards to Slott liying, that's a little premature to be calling. I'm fairly certain JRJR's contribution is larger than just those 2 pages.

 

[Darthphere]

Lets hope so.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It was good seeing JR Jr.'s Spider-Man again, if nothing else.