Origin of Sandman, Symbiote, and Spidey-Day Speculation

Razerblaze

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Hopefully I don't get flamed for creating a thread on this, but after reading many people's opinions on here, seeing the teaser, and posing some of my own predicitions in various threads, I thought I would piece together the opening of the movie the way I think it may go, and since a lot of this hasnt been pieced together like this yet, hopefully some of you will enjoy this a bit:


*Opening credits overtop of the close-up of the red/blue suit as seen in the teaser, with symbiote creeping across it as the credits come to a close, finally fading to black*

News Reporter: the notorious criminal Flint Marko has escaped from the Maximum Security Island Prison. Be on the lookout for this man *picture of Flint Marko* He is considered armed and very dangerous. Police are reporting that he may be headed towards an Atomic Devices Testing Center far off the coast of Manhattan.

*Camera zooms out from the TV to catch Peter and MJ in frame watching the news report. A few frames later sees Spider-Man jumping out of a window and swinging through the city*

*Cut to Oscorp where Harry is passed out over his desk with pictures of Peter and Spider-man scattered around. He wakes up to the sound of Norman’s cackle. Groggily, he stumbles toward the source of the laugh seemingly coming from the Green Goblin’s lair, backs up and bumps into Norman. After a heated conversation regarding Harry continuing his Father’s work and hunting down Spider-Man, Harry refuses and Norman throws a pumpkin bomb at Harry and it explodes in his face. Harry wakes up at his desk from the horrific dream, with a brooding look in his eyes*

*Cut to Flint Marko dodging cops in back alleys, grabbing some clothes off of a clothesline (the striped green shirt and tan pants) and finally coming to a huge nuclear testing facility. He takes off his jump suit, throws on his new threads, tosses the jumpsuit up onto the barbed wire fence, and climbs over it, running toward the facility.*

*Cut to Spider-Man coming up toward the facility searching for Flint. He catches a glimpse of him, and follows him into the building*

*Inside, Captain Stacy, Gwen Stacy, and many other official military people are about to test the latest in nuclear defense technology. Something goes wrong and sirens start going off everywhere. Abandoning the search for Flint after hearing the alarms, Spider-Man swings in just in time to save everyone, but loses Flint in the process. Just as he gets the last of the people safely away, the facility explodes, but even while looking in horror, Captain Stacy praises Spider-Man for saving him and his daughter and allowing no one to be hurt in the explosion. Flint is presumed dead. The camera zooms back to the beach near the facility where Flint is laying face down.*

*Several days later Harry is back at the facility that Norman tested the original glider, suit, and serum. He finds a few old prototypes of the original glider and suit, as well as a tube of black liquid labeled “highly toxic”. He discovers that this liquid was being developed as a possible cure for cancer but research was discontinued due to its highly volatile state and effect on test animals. Harry ends up taking the GG serum and is shown having a similar reaction as Norman’s to the serum.*

*Cut to Flint waking up and discovering his new powers*

*Happy Spider-Man day! Captain and Gwen Stacy decided to throw a thank-you party for Spidey to show appreciation for the rescue of the Staceys and crew, as well as the presumed demise of Flint Marko. Sometime during the fiasco, Sandman comes in and a huge battle ensues. Sandman beats Spidey to a pulp as a flying menace swoops in to try and take out Spider-Man. After another short battle, Spider-Man is seen being hauled away by Harry in the Rocket Racer prototype suit. Eddie Brock is there to capture it all on film.*

*Cut to Eddie in JJs office at the Daily Bugle. JJ assumes that the Green Goblin has returned and states that he knew Spider-Man was still in cahoots with him. He dubs this new villian Sandman and he tells Eddie he did a great job on the scoop and passively asks “where the hell has Peter been. He’s fired!”*

*Back at the Oscorp lab, Spider-Man is unconscious and laid out on a bed. Harry, in his psycho state, decides to use Spidey as a test subject on his father’s cure for cancer. He pours the black ooze out and it starts to crawl on its own, up Spideys suit until it covers him completely in black. Spidey wakes up, battles Harry, obviously injuring him, and escapes from the lab. This is where Spidey waked up hanging from the building at night staring at his red/blue reflection in the window.*


This would set up Harry to feel bad for creating this evil Black Spider-Man and he would set out as the Green Goblin to try and stop him from causing more harm than good. It would also serve to mess with Spidey's head because he sees Harry as trying to stop him for killing his father still, when in reality, Spidey is the one who is bad, and Harry is just trying to stop his friend from hurting himself and others because of what Harry did to create him.

Obviosly this would take place over a longer timeframe than I have allowed, and there will be much more dialog and back story, but in a nutshell this is how I see the beginning of SM3 to happen now that I can put a few things together from the teaser. Let me know what you think!
 
I see this film starting from the end of SM:2 with spidey swinging to where the police/helicopters were going, starting the film with an opening battle, (possibly 4th villain cameo) either that or starting in space with the symbiote
 
i like your ideas Razerblaze it sounds cool, i dont want this one to start right after SM2 ends, i want it to take place a while later, not a long time maybe a couple months just to see how the relationships have progressed
 
I think Sandman's story will be told like Doc Ock's, but with smaller stuff.
 
i forget who brought it up before but they said that sandman is the first villain that isnt a good person, GG and Doc Ock both started out good but sandman is the first character that starts out a bad person, i think this will make the movie awesome
 
Still Say Rock From Space
Conners Finds It
Pete Goes To Conners To Find A Way To Stop Sandman
Goo Gets Stuck To His Foot
When He Goes Home
It Goozes Up On Him
(thi Would Happen After The Stacy Part With Marko)
...............................

Love The Sandman Intro
Its Great
 
Sam Will Not Go With Any Known Story
It Will Be A Rock / Aseroid
 
Enough with the speculation people. We've got a script summary and the Q&A.
 
Yurka said:
i forget who brought it up before but they said that sandman is the first villain that isnt a good person, GG and Doc Ock both started out good but sandman is the first character that starts out a bad person, i think this will make the movie awesome

hes a criminal
 
lordofthenerds said:
Enough with the speculation people. We've got a script summary and the Q&A.

ye and some people don't want to read it/believe it
 
Yurka said:
i like your ideas Razerblaze it sounds cool, i dont want this one to start right after SM2 ends, i want it to take place a while later, not a long time maybe a couple months just to see how the relationships have progressed

Thanks :) I'm just trying to think outside the box. I LOVE the Symbiote origin from the Fox cartoon, but i have a feeling that Raimi might opt for a different approach. That said, I really dont like the Ultimate version where Peter and Eddie are childhood friends, but I thought the cancer cure was a col idea. Plus, Having Harry kind of "create" Symbiote Spider-Man would be a cool twist on how the other villians have been "created" from good people in the previous movies, as well as setting up an even deeper story between Harry and Peter.


fenox said:
Still Say Rock From Space
Conners Finds It
Pete Goes To Conners To Find A Way To Stop Sandman
Goo Gets Stuck To His Foot
When He Goes Home
It Goozes Up On Him
(thi Would Happen After The Stacy Part With Marko)
...............................

Love The Sandman Intro
Its Great

The only problem there is that the teaser clearly shows Peter laying on a bed in his Spider-Man costume with the symbiote creeping up his arm...Thats originally what led me to speculate that maybe Spider-Man was captured and the Symbiote was part of an experiment with him. Thanks for the nod to the Sandman Origin...I also thought that would be a cool way to integrate Spider-Man day since just rescuing Gwen from some random thugs wouldn't warrent a huge "Thank-You" whereas saving a bunch of people from an explosion would :P
 
Razerblaze said:
The only problem there is that the teaser clearly shows Peter laying on a bed in his Spider-Man costume with the symbiote creeping up his arm...Thats originally what led me to speculate that maybe Spider-Man was captured and the Symbiote was part of an experiment with him. Thanks for the nod to the Sandman Origin...I also thought that would be a cool way to integrate Spider-Man day since just rescuing Gwen from some random thugs wouldn't warrent a huge "Thank-You" whereas saving a bunch of people from an explosion would :P
Yeah its creeping up his arm from his foot. And it won't be an expiriment.
 
Razerblaze said:
Inside, Captain Stacy, Gwen Stacy, and many other official military people are about to test the latest in nuclear defense technology.

why would a police captain and his daughter be at a military testing site?
 
lordofthenerds said:
then some people don't want legit spoilers.

knowone knows what a legit spoiler is until the movie is released, seeing as a few months ago a 'legit spoiler' told some people that chameleon was the main villain and grace & church were both playing him
 
lordofthenerds said:
Enough with the speculation people. We've got a script summary and the Q&A.

Do those describe a possible origin for Sandman and why the city throws a thank-you party for Spider-Man? If so I guess I missed it when I read it. And I don't believe the proposed Symbiote origin from that for one second...Peter stepping on it like its a piece of gum? That's the lamest thing I've ever read.
 
Dope Nose said:
why would a police captain and his daughter be at a military testing site?


Good question...and honestly I dont know...It was just the first thing that popped into my mind when I was trying to integrate Sandman's creation and Spider-Man Day into one scene. I won't try to BS my way out of that one :confused:
 
gvcool2 said:
knowone knows what a legit spoiler is until the movie is released, seeing as a few months ago a 'legit spoiler' told some people that chameleon was the main villain and grace & church were both playing him
Uhh yes they can. How could the script summary have guessed about Spider-Man Day and a belltower melting off Spider-Man's costume way back in January. The same goes for the Q&A. It correctly said how both the symbiote costume and GG2 would look. Also it said that battles would take place at the subway, a construction site, in an allyway, and an armored truck correctly. That's enough confirmation for me.
 
Razerblaze said:
Good question...and honestly I dont know...It was just the first thing that popped into my mind when I was trying to integrate Sandman's creation and Spider-Man Day into one scene. I won't try to BS my way out of that one :confused:

hahaha! I quite liked the rest.
 
lordofthenerds said:
Yeah its creeping up his arm from his foot. And it won't be an expiriment.

Oh? I'm sorry Mr. Raimi...I wasnt aware you read and posted on these forums. :up:
 
Razerblaze said:
Oh? I'm sorry Mr. Raimi...I wasnt aware you read and posted on these forums. :up:
No I'm just speaking for Raimi but I see why you'd get us mixed up. :cool:
 
I LIKE THIS ENDING normans cure for cancer...sounds more likley than outer space...but why a black oozy suit?
 
fenox said:
Still Say Rock From Space
Conners Finds It
Pete Goes To Conners To Find A Way To Stop Sandman
Goo Gets Stuck To His Foot
When He Goes Home
It Goozes Up On Him
(thi Would Happen After The Stacy Part With Marko)
...............................

Love The Sandman Intro
Its Great

anything that makes the symboite a living organism from space
 
fenox said:
Still Say Rock From Space
Conners Finds It
Pete Goes To Conners To Find A Way To Stop Sandman
Goo Gets Stuck To His Foot
When He Goes Home
It Goozes Up On Him
(thi Would Happen After The Stacy Part With Marko)
...............................

Love The Sandman Intro
Its Great

anything that makes the symboite a living organism from space
 
fenox said:
Still Say Rock From Space
Conners Finds It
Pete Goes To Conners To Find A Way To Stop Sandman
Goo Gets Stuck To His Foot
When He Goes Home
It Goozes Up On Him
(thi Would Happen After The Stacy Part With Marko)
...............................

Love The Sandman Intro
Its Great

anything that makes the symboite a living organism from space
 

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