Flint Marko's Theory...

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Everybody fought that the real hero of the Battle Royale sequence will be Harry Osborn because he will turn out to be the one that saves Spidey when he is about to be kill by Venom. When we saw Spidey (alomost unmasked) begging somebody for help, everybody that it was Harry. I think we are wrong.
When Peter says in trailer : « I need your help », it is clear, according to the background, that the scene takes place at Harry’s. So I think that Harry is going to accept to help Pete and I think it is going to be done ala Lord of the Rings – The Returns of the King, when Aragorn proposed to the ghost king (can’t recall his name) to join, the scene ends with on a suspsens. You don’t know if he accepted or not. And the, when Aragorn, Gmili and Legolas appear on the Pelennor’s battle field, all the ghost army appears. I do believe that it is gonna be the same thing with Harry. Spidey is gonna appear on the construction site, alone, and then, when all will seem to be lost, Harry will appear.
According to Sam Raimi, Flint Marko is sympatethic figure, he kills Ben Parker, yes, but he will do anything to be forgive by Peter. Before the Battle Royale, Flint ignored that Spidey and Parker were actually the sam personn. But when Spidey is gonna sort of unmasked (half of his face is clearly revealed) Flint will know that Parker is Spidey. I am convince that it is Flint that Peter is begging for help and I believe that Sandman is gonna sacrifice himself so he can help Peter. Saving Peter is gonna be his redemption. I really think that it would be very powerfull, more than just having Sandman be really bad at the end of the film and be bitten by Venom. It will be dumb to ultimatly show the character like this and kill him this way.
So what do you think ?
 
preety good theory, but i really do not think that when peter reaches out he is reaching for sandman, i am sure it is harry because harry helps peter in the final battle.
 
spidermanhero12 said:
preety good theory, but i really do not think that when peter reaches out he is reaching for sandman, i am sure it is harry because harry helps peter in the final battle.

That's why I do believe that Harry is already dead or possibly in a really bad position at the moment where Spidey is reaching for help. That will make good sense...to me at least.
 
To me it looks like spidey/peter is trying to reach out to MJ... maybe Venom is holding her off the construction site or something.
 
Juggernaut33 said:
That's why I do believe that Harry is already dead or possibly in a really bad position at the moment where Spidey is reaching for help. That will make good sense...to me at least.
sandman is on venoms side though, what i beleive is that since markos daughter arrives at the construction site during the final battle. that would be the only time sandman stops fighting, harry will not die until near the end of the final battle when he goes to jump in and save peter and gets inpaled by venom.
 
Goran said:
To me it looks like spidey/peter is trying to reach out to MJ... maybe Venom is holding her off the construction site or something.
in the trailer mj was on venoms web hanging above the construction site, there would be no way she would be able to help peter, she already tried in spidey2 and got wacked across the room. in the script summary it said that harry is throwing pumpkin bombs at venom:yay::cwink:.
 
This theory sound intersting, it makes sense. But everything can happen, so nobody can be sure.
 
spidermanhero12 said:
in the trailer mj was on venoms web hanging above the construction site, there would be no way she would be able to help peter, she already tried in spidey2 and got wacked across the room. in the script summary it said that harry is throwing pumpkin bombs at venom:yay::cwink:.

You misunderstood me. It looks to me like spidey is trying to reach out for MJ in order to help/recue her
 
Cinemaman said:
This theory sound intersting, it makes sense. But everything can happen, so nobody can be sure.

True, but I think that will complete Flint Marko's journey perfectly.
 
Cinemaman said:
This theory sound intersting, it makes sense. But everything can happen, so nobody can be sure.
why would sandman stop fighting and help peter, the only way it would happen is if peter convinced sandman just like he did to ock in spidey2. the Q&A said that markos daughter comes to the construction site, that would be how marko stops fighting.
 
Goran said:
You misunderstood me. It looks to me like spidey is trying to reach out for MJ in order to help/recue her
that is a really good theory, that make alot of sense. maybe he tries to jump and save mj then venom shoots his web and pulls peter down and is choking him.
 
spidermanhero12 said:
why would sandman stop fighting and help peter, the only way it would happen is if peter convinced sandman just like he did to ock in spidey2. the Q&A said that markos daughter comes to the construction site, that would be how marko stops fighting.

The script summary said...
The Q&A said...
My mommy said...

:rolleyes:
 
spidermanhero12 said:

Sorry... I'm just trying to forget the whole q&a/script summary thing... so I can enjoy the movie without knowing everything.
 
spidermanhero12 said:
why would sandman stop fighting and help peter, the only way it would happen is if peter convinced sandman just like he did to ock in spidey2. the Q&A said that markos daughter comes to the construction site, that would be how marko stops fighting.

Yes, that's how I believe it would happen, Venom is going to finish Spidey, Flint finds out that Parker Parker is Spider-Man, his daughter says him not to kill Spidey, Spidey is reaching Sandman for help, Sandman...
 
Goran said:
Sorry... I'm just trying to forget the whole q&a/script summary thing... so I can enjoy the movie without knowing everything.
it is okay, do not worry about it:yay:.
 
Juggernaut33 said:
Yes, that's how I believe it would happen, Venom is going to finish Spidey, Flint finds out that Parker Parker is Spider-Man, his daughter says him not to kill Spidey, Spidey is reaching Sandman for help, Sandman...
it could happen. i will go with gorans theory though because maybe mj is about to fall and peter is reaching out trying to get her. your theory is good too though.
 
I love the theory of Sandman sacrificing himself for Peter to gain redemption for killing Uncle Ben. I think that makes for an excellent dramatic sequence. But do you think that Sandman and Harry will both sacrifice themselves for Pete in the same scene?

I would have Sandman sacrifice himself and have Harry just go out fighting Venom instead of taking an impalement. Let him go down like a real bad***
 
I don't think Harry will sacrifice himself, he will fight side by side with Spidey and will be killed by Venom but it doesn't mean that he is going to sacrifice himself for Pete.
 
What in the sacrificing hell...

...is this some kind of saving party?
 
rockportspidey said:
I love the theory of Sandman sacrificing himself for Peter to gain redemption for killing Uncle Ben. I think that makes for an excellent dramatic sequence. But do you think that Sandman and Harry will both sacrifice themselves for Pete in the same scene?

I would have Sandman sacrifice himself and have Harry just go out fighting Venom instead of taking an impalement. Let him go down like a real bad***
there was suppose to be a scene in the final battle where his daughter comes but i do not think that will make marko save peter. it woul make him stop fighting though. here is how i see it.

harry is throwing pumpkin bombs at venom and sandman, venom is hurting peter bad. venom goes to punch peter then harry jumps off of his glider right infront of peter then gets impaled. as for spidey reaching out i think he will be reaching out for mj or harry.
 
seeing spidey-harry-sandman vs. venom would be awesome
 
Visionary said:
What in the sacrificing hell...

...is this some kind of saving party?

Creed should have saved their song "My Sacrifice" for this movie.
 
creed should keep their music to themselves.
 
spidermanhero12 said:
there was suppose to be a scene in the final battle where his daughter comes but i do not think that will make marko save peter. it woul make him stop fighting though.

Ummm.. OK... so you see it playing out something like this??...

THE BATTLE ROYALE rages on... all hell is breaking loose... Sandman is kicking the living be-jesus out of Spidey when Marko's daughter shows up to the scene, all decked out in curls and her best Sunday school dress...

DAUGHTER: Please, Mr. Sandman, don't hurt Spiderman... he's my second favorite hero... right behind my daddy[lower lip pouts out, and a single tear begins to fall down her face]

Sandman, shocked that his daughter is there, stops just as he is about to bash Spidey's brains in, and returns to his human form...

MARKO/SANDMAN: Sweetie, what are you doing here???

DAUGHTER: EEEEEKKKK! Daddy, what are you doing? I don't, I don't understand.... why am I hearing voices in my head??

MOTHER/WIFE: Oh crap... this is going to be years of therapy for this little brat!

MARKO/SANDMAN: Uh, I can't do this in front of my daughter! What kind of example am I going to be. I quit. Sorry, Venom, you're on your own. Come on, honey, let's go home and have some ice cream.

VENOM: Where the HELL do you think you're going, BIOTCH? You can't just walk out on a $250 million special effects extravaganza just to play with your kid! You PUUUUUSSSSYYY!

Venom breaks off his attack on Spidey & Harry and jumps on Marko/Sandman and bites him.

DAUGHTER: Oh my God!!! You killed my Daddy!

SPIDERMAN: You BASTARD!

:woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:
 

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