Transformers Original TF series was just Toy commericals...

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The orginal series was just toy commericals. True, it did have a cool story backdrop of an Alien race civil war, but most of the dialoge and stories were crap, if you watch any of those old shows they are just toy commericials.

I expect the new movie will be pretty much that as well, with a movie storyline involved, but those of you going for the storyline will hate the movie from the start and not like at the finish.

Those who enjoy this movie will be going to see cars/planes transforming into giant robots and kicking the chaw out of each other in amazing action sequences.

Don't expect a LOTR type story. Expect a cheap action story for a summer blockbuster. Sit back, don't care, and be amazed by Optimus kicking the crap out of Bonecrusher at 100MPH on the highway.
 
Overman27pj said:
The orginal series was just toy commericals. True, it did have a cool story backdrop of an Alien race civil war, but most of the dialoge and stories were crap, if you watch any of those old shows they are just toy commericials.

I expect the new movie will be pretty much that as well, with a movie storyline involved, but those of you going for the storyline will hate the movie from the start and not like at the finish.

Those who enjoy this movie will be going to see cars/planes transforming into giant robots and kicking the chaw out of each other in amazing action sequences.

Don't expect a LOTR type story. Expect a cheap action story for a summer blockbuster. Sit back, don't care, and be amazed by Optimus kicking the crap out of Bonecrusher at 100MPH on the highway.

The cartoon did start off that way but then they came out with the comics etc and the storylines were actually pretty big. I agree 100% that this will be a toy commercial but it's a shame because it really is a cool story with alot of potential. This could have been the next star wars. But they arent even trying to make it as good as the new star wars movies.
Bay dismissed it as a "toy movie" right off the bat. If they would have got some writers to make the story have a little more substance and made this an epic film it could have been a classic that people would have been watching 20 years from now. The old cartoons must have had something special for us to still be talking about them.


By the way Lord of the rings wasnt a fluffy toy commercial but they sure did sell a ton of LOTR figures because kids loved the characters.
I wish Peter Jackson (or anyone other than Bay) was directing this one... I wish WETA was designing it as well....
 
You know a lot of people didnt think Star Wars was gonna be an epic before it came out too
 
Overman27pj said:
The orginal series was just toy commericals. True, it did have a cool story backdrop of an Alien race civil war...
Next week: Water gets you wet!
 
you know a lot of cartoons from that era also had the same kinda dialogue...

just because something doesn't stand the test of time doesn't mean that it's bad per say.

it's just dated, that's all.
 
roach said:
You know a lot of people didnt think Star Wars was gonna be an epic before it came out too

Star wars didnt base itself on an established property and change it to the point of being nearly unrecognisable...
 
you have pretty much dismissed this movie as a failure and you havent seen reel one?????
 
roach said:
you have pretty much dismissed this movie as a failure and you havent seen reel one?????

I have read the script... and I saw the designs of the characters...
 
So if you hate the movie so then why are you in a transformer movie board?
 
Overman27pj said:
The orginal series was just toy commericals. True, it did have a cool story backdrop of an Alien race civil war, but most of the dialoge and stories were crap, if you watch any of those old shows they are just toy commericials.

I expect the new movie will be pretty much that as well, with a movie storyline involved, but those of you going for the storyline will hate the movie from the start and not like at the finish.

Those who enjoy this movie will be going to see cars/planes transforming into giant robots and kicking the chaw out of each other in amazing action sequences.

Don't expect a LOTR type story. Expect a cheap action story for a summer blockbuster. Sit back, don't care, and be amazed by Optimus kicking the crap out of Bonecrusher at 100MPH on the highway.

You know, if I told you what I really think of you, I would probably get kicked off the boards, so......just leave...please. :whatever:
 
big D Evil said:
I have read the script... and I saw the designs of the characters...


1)you read A script not THE script
2)you have seen some designs but not THE FINAL designs
 
What a worthless thread....

Many people have already made that point and much more intelligently.
 
roach said:
1)you read A script not THE script
2)you have seen some designs but not THE FINAL designs


All the pics and previews that have been officially released coincide with what is in the script.
I greatly doubt they have changed the script in any significant way when they are filming specific scenes from it.
I have seen the bumblebee pics and they have confimed the flames on prime and that Megatron is an "alien Jet".
Do you want more reasons?
 
Dr Lee said:
So if you hate the movie so then why are you in a transformer movie board?
Because some people prefer to let Bay know that we care about this franchise. And to let him know that it's more than just "big f***ing robots".
 
Dr Lee said:
So if you hate the movie so then why are you in a transformer movie board?
Because some people prefer to let Bay know that we care about this franchise. And to let him know that it's more than just "big f***ing robots".
 
big D Evil said:
All the pics and previews that have been officially released coincide with what is in the script.
I greatly doubt they have changed the script in any significant way when they are filming specific scenes from it.
I have seen the bumblebee pics and they have confimed the flames on prime and that Megatron is an "alien Jet".
Do you want more reasons?


1)Have you read the final script...NO
2)Have you seen the final designs for Megatron or Starscream...NO
 
roach said:
1)Have you read the final script...NO
2)Have you seen the final designs for Megatron or Starscream...NO

They confirmed that Bumblebee talks via his radio and know he has a gascap on his mouth.
They also confirmed the whole "magic map glasses" storyline.

Please tell me your not under the delusion that they are going to change all the horrible cliche's in the leaked script and it will all be fixed in the final movie.
 
roach said:
1)Have you read the final script...NO
2)Have you seen the final designs for Megatron or Starscream...NO

You need to research movie production. The revised script was February, they started filming in what? June. That's 4 months, barely enough time for pre-production on a movie this scale.
 
big D Evil said:
They confirmed that Bumblebee talks via his radio and know he has a gascap on his mouth.
They also confirmed the whole "magic map glasses" storyline.

Please tell me your not under the delusion that they are going to change all the horrible cliche's in the leaked script and it will all be fixed in the final movie.

no I am under the "delusion" that I am gonna go into this movie with an open mind. You have to realize that the script that you read is not the final script for a reason...there are some changes they are making
 
Boiiinng said:
You need to research movie production. The revised script was February, they started filming in what? June. That's 4 months, barely enough time for pre-production on a movie this scale.


and no movie has ever been rewritten as they film?????
No movie gets tweaked and changed in post production????
 
roach said:
and no movie has ever been rewritten as they film?????
No movie gets tweaked and changed in post production????
So maybe as thier filming they will re-design Megatron, take the flames off prime and bumblebee wont talk using his radio?
DELUSION! Bay has you hypnotized brotha! Maybe it's all that crazy camera work and explosions from his other movies. They have made you loopy....
 
big D Evil said:
So maybe as thier filming they will re-design Megatron, take the flames off prime and bumblebee wont talk using his radio?
DELUSION! Bay has you hypnotized brotha! Maybe it's all that crazy camera work and explosions from his other movies. They have made you loopy....

yeah Im crazy...you are upset over work in progress designs and a script that isnt the final one
while I take a wait and see attitude and rather get mad over facts and the film we see in the thearter.....yeah I need to be locked away:whatever:
 
roach said:
and no movie has ever been rewritten as they film?????
No movie gets tweaked and changed in post production????

They won't tweak or change the vehicles and maquettes. It costs too much to change those. The rewrites, at most, may be dialogue, but not scenes. We're not talking a dramatic-talky piece here, it's 75% action.
 
roach said:
yeah Im crazy...you are upset over work in progress designs and a script that isnt the final one
while I take a wait and see attitude and rather get mad over facts and the film we see in the thearter.....yeah I need to be locked away:whatever:

I guess I see your point. let's all keep quiet so bay and company can do whatever they want to something we like and we'll just sit around with our thumbs up our butts. We can all just be good little cronies and hope the almighty Bay will deliver unto us a good movie even though the leaked script was has a horrible story and worse dialogue than an 80's Schwartzenegger movie. regardless of the script or bad designs I bet it will all turn out great once it's filmed in the Bay style with funky camera angles and things exploding everywhere.
If we don't like the movie than we can complain afterwards right??

OR
We can complain now about what we like and don't like and MAYBE just maybe they will throw us a bone and change some stuff around.
even if it's the most miniscule change it's better than nothing...
It's probably too late but at least I will try as opposed to taking a "wait and see" approach
 
Boiiinng said:
They won't tweak or change the vehicles and maquettes. It costs too much to change those. The rewrites, at most, may be dialogue, but not scenes. We're not talking a dramatic-talky piece here, it's 75% action.


and Shrek was constantly being redesigned until almost the day they had to cut film
 

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