Transformers Original TF series was just Toy commericals...

[Boiiinng]

I really wonder whether Bay and the writers even looked at the comics, considering all of the comic adaptations that are happening today, you'd think Hasbro would say "hey, these aren't too shabby, try matching them more than the cartoon" because it seems like they took one look at the cartoon and said, "Nope, that's crap, we have to do something completely different!"

 

[CFlash]

I really wonder whether Bay and the writers even looked at the comics, considering all of the comic adaptations that are happening today, you'd think Hasbro would say "hey, these aren't too shabby, try matching them more than the cartoon" because it seems like they took one look at the cartoon and said, "Nope, that's crap, we have to do something completely different!"

I always felt the cartoon and comic completely complemented each other. What was subpar or corny in the cartoon was handled really well in the comic. And vice versa... what was missing in the comic was pretty cool in the cartoon.

Both should have been burrowed from. Unfortunately, it seems the only thing they used was a 2 sentence marketing blurb describing Transformers in a nutshell "Alien robots that come to Earth and disguise themselves as machines."

 

[CFlash]

The cartoon was rather shallow as well.

Luckily Transformers was more than a cartoon. It was complemented by the comics not to mention the spec cards and background character essays on the characters and story on the toy boxes.

 

[big D Evil]

The cartoon was rather shallow as well.

Yes the cartoon from 1984 was shallow. You would think that it would have been a piece of cake for them to come up with something a little more substantial 22 years later with 300 million dollars and 22 years worth of source material at thier disposal.
unfortunately the script, some of the designs and alot of the statements from Bay and Company point to them somehow managing to actually make it cornier than the 22 year old cartoon......

 

[Hotwire]

Yes the cartoon from 1984 was shallow. You would think that it would have been a piece of cake for them to come up with something a little more substantial 22 years later with 300 million dollars and 22 years worth of source material at thier disposal.
unfortunately the script, some of the designs and alot of the statements from Bay and Company point to them somehow managing to actually make it cornier than the 22 year old cartoon......

Maybe, just maybe, this is the studio's way of satying faithful to the source material??

 

[Creature SH]

Maybe, just maybe, this is the studio's way of satying faithful to the source material??

By throwing the good stuff out the window and making something sillier ? That's like showing faith in your marriage by banging prostitutes.

 

[Hotwire]

By throwing the good stuff out the window and making something sillier ? That's like showing faith in your marriage by banging prostitutes.

You missed the joke. We were talking about the movie being shallow and the original cartoon being shallow as well. That's why I said maby this was they're way of being faithful to the show.

 

[CFlash]

You missed the joke. We were talking about the movie being shallow and the original cartoon being shallow as well. That's why I said maby this was they're way of being faithful to the show.

Transformers was not shallow. It was a kids afternoon cartoon yes (and kids comic)... but it was in no way shallow. There was a lot of subtext and metaphors... many of which have been turned upside down in this movie. Almost like a parody.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

yeah, like how Optimus Prime is really just a modern interpretation of Moses.

and like how the relationship between megatron and starscream is just a metaphor for the relationship between big tabacco and the record industry.

 

[CFlash]

yeah, like how Optimus Prime is really just a modern interpretation of Moses.

and like how the relationship between megatron and starscream is just a metaphor for the relationship between big tabacco and the record industry.

Why are you even here? You seem to hate Transformers with a passion.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

no, its just that your post is stupid.

funny that you say i hate transformers when you're the one that wastes his day by coming here to complain.

 

[CFlash]

no, its just that your post is stupid.

funny that you say i hate transformers when you're the one that wastes his day by coming here to complain.

Perhaps it was stupid, but yours was downright imbecilic.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

you belong here:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=302

now that you have been given a link to a place that bbetter suits you, you will hopefully go away.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

Perhaps it was stupid, but yours was downright imbecilic.

i was mocking you, idiot.

 

[CFlash]

you belong here:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=302

now that you have been given a link to a place that bbetter suits you, you will hopefully go away.

And you belong here:
http://www.shootfortheedit.com/
Nelson will love some company.

No wait... here is better... go back HOME:
http://www.donmurphy.net/

Hopefully now you'll find a better place to mutually masterbate with likeminded folks.

 

[big D Evil]

Perhaps it was stupid, but yours was downright imbecilic.

Your comment wasnt stupid. I stand by my comment that Transformers was shallow on a show by show basis but taken as a whole it was much bigger than any other cartoon of the era. (until robotech came along)
There were alot of things that were implied or that they never got to go into detail on because it was an 80's cartoon with the time constraint of 22 minutes to tell you a complete story.
Thats why we all hoped with unlimited time and nearly unlimited budget we would all be able to see the epic story that had always been implied but never fully realized...
The old TF movie to me was hasbro's attempt to kill off the old toyline and replace it with new characters that werent as good and now instead of fixing past mistakes and finally giving us a good TF movie they are licensing out the francise to Bay so he can re-invent it and esentially do the same thing. Sell toys.
As long as they can sell more toys who cares about a meaningful movie or story??
Don't they realize that if they made this really great people would watch it 20+ years from now?

 

[roach]

Your comment wasnt stupid. I stand by my comment that Transformers was shallow on a show by show basis but taken as a whole it was much bigger than any other cartoon of the era. (until robotech came along)

I could have sworn Robotech came out first

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

The orginal series was just toy commericals. True, it did have a cool story backdrop of an Alien race civil war, but most of the dialoge and stories were crap, if you watch any of those old shows they are just toy commericials.

I expect the new movie will be pretty much that as well, with a movie storyline involved, but those of you going for the storyline will hate the movie from the start and not like at the finish.

Those who enjoy this movie will be going to see cars/planes transforming into giant robots and kicking the chaw out of each other in amazing action sequences.

Don't expect a LOTR type story. Expect a cheap action story for a summer blockbuster. Sit back, don't care, and be amazed by Optimus kicking the crap out of Bonecrusher at 100MPH on the highway.

And your point is what?

 

[big D Evil]

I could have sworn Robotech came out first

Not in my area (mid Michigan). But thanks for being jerky...

 

[Avangarde]

I could have sworn Robotech came out first

It was created in Japan before Transformers but was release in english language after Transformers, probably has a wikipedia on it like everything in the world of ours