Oz: The Great and Powerful - Part 1

[DarthSkywalker]

So this film is kinda of sinking at the box office. It has stalled pretty badly.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Just got back from seeing Oz. Wasn't the redemption I'd hoped it would be from Sam Raimi. But I love James Franco and I love the Wizard of Oz. Those were the only things that saved this movie.

Visually I couldn't help but be reminded of Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland.

 

[TheVileOne]

So this film is kinda of sinking at the box office. It has stalled pretty badly.

It's not going to be as big as Alice in Wonderland, but it's already made over $400 million worldwide and almost $200 million domestic. I would say they probably spent way too much on a movie like this though.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Just saw it and it was ok. 7/10. Didnt really care about any of the characters in the end but really need a movie focusing more on the witches than Oz. Of course Wicked will happen one day but until then...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's not going to be as big as Alice in Wonderland, but it's already made over $400 million worldwide and almost $200 million domestic. I would say they probably spent way too much on a movie like this though.

Yeah, that is the thing. This movie was made expensive and they haven't come close to covering that cost yet.

 

[TheVileOne]

DarthSkywalker, the movie has made over $200 million in the US already and over $415 million worldwide. Now the budget I read was $215 million, so chances are when all is said and done they will probably have broken even or come close theatrically.

Raimi probably got a good back end deal or off the top gross deal for all we know.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

DarthSkywalker, the movie has made over $200 million in the US already and over $415 million worldwide. Now the budget I read was $215 million, so chances are when all is said and done they will probably have broken even or come close theatrically.

Raimi probably got a good back end deal or off the top gross deal for all we know.

The reports on marketing I have seen all have it upwards of $75 million, I have seen over $100 million. I am sure they will make it up with merch and home media sales, but still, the profit looks like it isn't going to be great.

 

[Ultimatehero]

You really can't include marketing with tent-pole films. Reason being because of the merchandising deals that come out of it. Which would eliminate it either partially or at the very least cut in half the marketing cost. For usual films, no - you can't look at that, but this isn't really a "usual" film. Back in the 90s it was 50 to 200 mil for merchandise films, today those films are getting upwards of 8 billion from merchandising alone. And for non-period films, like 'The Avengers' for example, you are looking at stores paying to have their logos in the films.

Thus the only prices to really go by are the film itself and the box office reports. In addition to the numbers of home video and when those numbers come out. The other costs, no one could calculate in because no one knows the marketing nor the merchandising amount. Merchandising alone could have already made the film profitable for all we know.

 

[Lord]

Just watched it, it was ok but i feel like it should have had a better script, the evil witches were hot (except when they transformed), but when Kunis turned because of something so dull i wasn't able to take her seriously again.

 

[childeroland]

This guy I met five minutes ago doesn't want me anymore. OF COURSE I MUST TURN EVIL.

 

[terry78]

This guy I met five minutes ago doesn't want me anymore. OF COURSE I MUST TURN EVIL.

Just like in real life.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Just watched it, it was ok but i feel like it should have had a better script, the evil witches were hot (except when they transformed), but when Kunis turned because of something so dull i wasn't able to take her seriously again.

I thought it was foreshadowed well by the scene in which her sister says "Deep down you are wicked," and over that little comment Kunis snaps and hurls a fireball. We already knew she had wickedness hidden deep down, we already knew she had anger issues. Good and evil are painted in broad strokes because it is a children's story... just as a good folk are almost unbelievably good ("an army that cannot kill") so the evil ones are very very evil and outraged by the slightest thing.

I thought it worked well in the story. I was able to take her transformation as seriously as one can take anything in a land of Winkies and Munchkins and sleep-inducing poppies and flying monkeys.

 

[Kirmit]

Kunis' character wasn't instantly made evil by the heartbreak of what Oz did to her, she just wanted the pain to go away, it was the apple that did the rest.

 

[Lord]

I thought it was foreshadowed well by the scene in which her sister says "Deep down you are wicked," and over that little comment Kunis snaps and hurls a fireball. We already knew she had wickedness hidden deep down, we already knew she had anger issues. Good and evil are painted in broad strokes because it is a children's story... just as a good folk are almost unbelievably good ("an army that cannot kill") so the evil ones are very very evil and outraged by the slightest thing.

I thought it worked well in the story. I was able to take her transformation as seriously as one can take anything in a land of Winkies and Munchkins and sleep-inducing poppies and flying monkeys.

The thing is, i didn't watch the original, i didn't expect her to turn evil, and when she did it didn't make much sence, even that part when she hurls a fireball felt a little too over the top. I actully liked Kunis when she was "good", i prefered her to the blonde one, as a witch Kunis was just annoying.

 

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Possible Artwork for the Bluray release Oz The Great & Powerful. http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/oz-the-great-and-powerful.html

 

[ThePhantasm]

The thing is, i didn't watch the original, i didn't expect her to turn evil, and when she did it didn't make much sence, even that part when she hurls a fireball felt a little too over the top. I actully liked Kunis when she was "good", i prefered her to the blonde one, as a witch Kunis was just annoying.

I don't think it matters if you watched the original or not. If it didn't make sense, okay, but it really was a very simple story in a world designed for children's books. Of course you aren't going to get some complex psychological character development that transforms the person from good to evil. Its supposed to be really simple. She's inherently wicked deep down, she gets her feelings hurt, she gets tricked by her sister, and she becomes an evil cackling witch. That's all there is to it.

 

[dark_b]

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

She looked horrible... her eyebrows remind me of the drawn-on ones that the ghetto Mexican chicks have.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

I think those might actually look scarier than mila did.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Agreed. I'm sure they would have given a better performance too.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Jew Betta give up yo wizard, Chica, or things Gon get ugly up in ere.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Ohmigawd Glinda yous a mayne stealin skankola! Don' make me havta cut a witch!

 

[DarkSovereignty]

And the monkey be all like "mayne, gringo, you screwed."

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

And the monkey be all like "mayne, gringo, you screwed."

Ghetto Theodora would probably pull the "I'm pregnant" trick to get Oz to stay with her too.



Oz: "...But we only kissed-- *Theodora interrupts him*"

Theodora: "--CHEA well we get pregnant eazier in Oz mayne! Don' be stoopid!"

 

[Sawyer]

Finally saw this. A little meh about it, but I think it had more going for it than Burton's Alice.

Franco was a big miscast though.