Paramount/Dreamworks sides with HD-DVD in the Hi-Def war

[Speedball]

Well...



And don't count on Universal, Universal will stick with HD DVD till the end as the BDA tried to persuade them to go blu to no avail over the summer.

GRR!!!

Damn you Jason Bourne and Admiral Adama!

 

[Timstuff]

Don't worry, Universal will wake up and smell the coffee sooner or later, when Blu-Ray is speeding ahead of them with all the hot releases from Fox and Disney that will finally come out this winter. HD-DVD has no legs, only an big pot of money that can be used to buy favors.

 

[Downhere]

Don't worry, Universal will wake up and smell the coffee sooner or later, when Blu-Ray is speeding ahead of them with all the hot releases from Fox and Disney that will finally come out this winter. HD-DVD has no legs, only an big pot of money that can be used to buy favors.

And you don't think Sony has used its resources to gain exclusivity? Please...

This is why having the PS3 as such a big part of BR's success is not good, you get people who shouldn't be early adopters coming into a format war with their nonsensical remarks.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Don't worry, Universal will wake up and smell the coffee sooner or later, when Blu-Ray is speeding ahead of them with all the hot releases from Fox and Disney that will finally come out this winter. HD-DVD has no legs, only an big pot of money that can be used to buy favors.

Not when everyone realizes how much better HD is. No movie, and I repeat no movie, that's coming out this winter will beat out the demand for Transformers. And I believe a little show called Heroes is coming out next week, and is only HD-DVD/DVD.

Ouch.

 

[Timstuff]

If putting Blu-Ray into PS3 brings a speedier end to the format war, I think it's something everyone should be glad about.

And tell me, what is HD-DVD good for, other than movie watching? With Blu-Ray, all the biggest PC companies are backing it, so in the future you'll be able to back up your whole hard drive on about 4 discs. Since it's in PS3, a lot of developers are already singing the praises of the additional space, so in the future I expect it will become standard to the game industry.

And what will HD-DVD offer, other than movies? Oh yeah, nothing. None of the major PC manufacturers are supporting HD-DVD. Interestingly enough, the biggest backers of HD-DVD are Microsoft and Intel, who don't even make disc playing products! With Blu-Ray, it's got the support of most of the movie industry, the PC industry, and the game industry. HD-DVD has the support of Microsoft and Intel, which is really quite irrelevant to the average consumer since they don't even make HD-DVD products-- it's more of an endorsement than anything else.

 

[Timstuff]

Not when everyone realizes how much better HD is. No movie, and I repeat no movie, that's coming out this winter will beat out the demand for Transformers. And I believe a little show called Heroes is coming out next week, and is only HD-DVD/DVD.

Ouch.

LOL, I love Transformers, but do you honestly think that it will be enough to overpower all the releases Fox, Sony, and Disney are pouring out? NO! Pirates 3 and Spider-Man 3 are still Blu-Ray only, and that accounts for 2 out of the 3 biggest movies of the year. So HD-DVD got one victory this year, la-de-freakin-da. Blu-Ray still has enough support to squash that piece of trash format into the dust, and it WILL. And ontop of that, anyone who owns a PS3 and an HDTV can instantly become a Blu-Ray consumer, and PS3s will be one of the big selling items this holiday.

 

[Downhere]

Timstuff, you seem to think that if BR loses the movie wars, that it will disappear that is not true. Like you said, it is used for PS3 games and can be used for storage. But for movies, I think HD DVD is definitely more complete. I don't see how you can honestly suggest BR should win the war when it doesn't even have the finalized spec implemented in players yet...whereas HD DVD was good to go from the beginning.

Either way, all this arguing back and forth means squat. Both formats are here to stay and the format war is not going to end anytime soon. HD DVD is fighting this to the end, as will Sony...so you should stop worrying about the format war ending as it is just getting started. Nothing is going to change that and with yesterday's news...HD DVD is in it for the long haul.

 

[Downhere]

LOL, I love Transformers, but do you honestly think that it will be enough to overpower all the releases Fox, Sony, and Disney are pouring out? NO! Pirates 3 and Spider-Man 3 are still Blu-Ray only, and that accounts for 2 out of the 3 biggest movies of the year. So HD-DVD got one victory this year, la-de-freakin-da. Blu-Ray still has enough support to squash that piece of trash format into the dust, and it WILL. And ontop of that, anyone who owns a PS3 and an HDTV can instantly become a Blu-Ray consumer, and PS3s will be one of the big selling items this holiday.

You must be forgetting Shrek 3 which made more than both POTC 3 and Transformers. HD DVD is not a piece of trash format. Good grief, are you this big of a Sony fanboy? Like I said, the way certain BR fanboys act is the reason why they should not be early adopters in a new format. Childish remarks and the 'my way or the highway' attitude just bring down the format of their choice by being associated with gamers.

 

[Timstuff]

Blu-Ray has a higher storage capacity, a wider bitrate, and ontop of that is a lot more durable. From a technical standpoint Blu-Ray is superior. The only place where HD-DVD wins is SOFTWARE. And if you honestly think that most consumers will give a crap about whether or not Blu-Ray has a finalized standard feature set, you are being delusional.

 

[WorthyStevens]

LOL, I love Transformers, but do you honestly think that it will be enough to overpower all the releases Fox, Sony, and Disney are pouring out? NO! Pirates 3 and Spider-Man 3 are still Blu-Ray only, and that accounts for 2 out of the 3 biggest movies of the year. So HD-DVD got one victory this year, la-de-freakin-da. Blu-Ray still has enough support to squash that piece of trash format into the dust, and it WILL. And ontop of that, anyone who owns a PS3 and an HDTV can instantly become a Blu-Ray consumer, and PS3s will be one of the big selling items this holiday.

You missed what I said about Heroes, which was arguably the biggest show of the past TV season, which is only coming on HD-DVD.

And sorry, but Transformers will easily sell more than Pirates and Spidey come later this year.

 

[Downhere]

Blu-Ray has a higher storage capacity, a wider bitrate, and ontop of that is a lot more durable. From a technical standpoint Blu-Ray is superior. The only place where HD-DVD wins is SOFTWARE. And if you honestly think that most consumers will give a crap about whether or not Blu-Ray has a finalized standard feature set, you are being delusional.

The higher bitrate means nothing in real world settings. There are currently no films on BR that are better than HD DVD and vice versa. Pretty much identical picture quality and I've seen the best of both formats to know. So that argument is moot. Higher storage...interesting considering SM3 will be 2 disc.

Also, most consumers will give a crap about the finalized spec as more movies start using Java for their menus. People have already reported trouble with the POTC films on standalone BR players. So that will come into play.

 

[Timstuff]

Who cares about Heroes coming to HD-DVD? Blu-Ray has Lost Season 3 which will fill the hit TV show niche on Blu-Ray. Transformers, as good and popular as it was, is still a few million behind Pirates 3 and Spidey 3. And it's not just Spider-man THREE that HD-DVD has to overcome, either!

THIS IS THE BIG TAMALE! Honestly, who is gonna ask for Heroes instead of the Spider-Man trilogy?

 

[Speedball]

Who cares about Heroes coming to HD-DVD? Blu-Ray has Lost Season 3 which will fill the hit TV show niche on Blu-Ray. Transformers, as good and popular as it was, is still a few million behind Pirates 3 and Spidey 3. And it's not just Spider-man THREE that HD-DVD has to overcome, either!

THIS IS THE BIG TAMALE! Honestly, who is gonna ask for Heroes instead of the Spider-Man trilogy?

I would rather tear my eyes out than watch Spider-crap.

 

[Downhere]

Timstuff, just get over it, both formats are here to stay. BR has some good exclusives and so does HD DVD...like I have said before, if you love High Def so much you'll buy into both formats and I can guarantee you that you will be able to find a player at 200 or less this holiday season.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Who cares about Heroes coming to HD-DVD?

The 20-30+ million people who tuned in each week to watch it.

Transformers, as good and popular as it was, is still a few million behind Pirates 3 and Spidey 3.

Doesn't matter how much these movies made, Transformers received much better reception from the mass than those other movies. And this is coming from someone who loved all 3 movies.

 

[Timstuff]

Timstuff, just get over it, both formats are here to stay.

LOL, that's what the Betamax supporters said.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

 

[Timstuff]

The 20-30+ million people who tuned in each week to watch it.

The show is free. The HD-DVD is $70. It's not going to sell 30 million copies when there are only 60 million HDTV enabled homes.

 

[Downhere]

LOL, that's what the Betamax supporters said.

Yeah, and remember who was behind that format? t:

 

[Downhere]

The show is free. The HD-DVD is $70. It's not going to sell 30 million copies when there are only 60 million HDTV enabled homes.

But didn't you just say Lost Season 3 was going to sell well, but using your logic, Lost Season 3 won't sell well. Hmm. *scratches head*

 

[WorthyStevens]

The show is free. The HD-DVD is $70. It's not going to sell 30 million copies when there are only 60 million HDTV enabled homes.

Have you ever heard of a fanbase?

 

[Speedball]

And this will all have an anti-climactic ending like that story did.

 

[Downhere]

And this will all have an anti-climactic ending like that story did.

Most likely.

 

[Timstuff]

Yeah, and remember who was behind that format? t:

Samsung, Pioneer, Panasonic, Dell, Apple, and HP weren't.

And look what happened to DVHS, the official successor to VHS, if you want to pull the "History repeats itself" card.

 

[StrainedEyes]

I love how you guys are fighting as if DVD doesn't exist anymore. The majority of all the sales of all the dvds coming out, including Spider-man 3, Transformers, Heroes, whatever, will be for the DVD format and not for either HD.