Parents believe son is reincarnated WWII fighter pilot

[pyromaniac]

Or have very active imaginations fueled by their parent's attempts at a quick money grab.

So the parents told the kid to have an active imagination in the first place? If only we could make a buck from the amount of imagination all these kids have...

 

[pyromaniac]

Children don't dismiss ghosts by saying they're just hallucinating from being tired/stoned/hungover.

Are you saying ghosts don't exist? I'm just saying that kids tend to be more in touch with the supernatural world. Of course, for most of the time, that fades away with age.

 

[The Battousai]

If the supernatural by definition is that which is not natural, then why would the supernatural manifest itself in the natural world? How could we even understand anything about the supernatural by the use of our natural brains?

It seems like a useless term to throw around.

 

[chamber-music]

Its only a matter of time until he starts school and gets into fights with German kids.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Are you saying ghosts don't exist? I'm just saying that kids tend to be more in touch with the supernatural world. Of course, for most of the time, that fades away with age.

What evidence supports this? Also, you realize that the only people who can comment on this are children and that several children believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, right?

 

[bullets]

Its only a matter of time until he starts school and gets into fights with German kids.

that would be perfect. i'd like to see ww2 relived through 4 year old reincarnated soldiers .

 

[Darthphere]

So the parents told the kid to have an active imagination in the first place? If only we could make a buck from the amount of imagination all these kids have...

No, he had a very active imagination, really liked planes and had a bad dream. The parents decided to run with it.

 

[pyromaniac]

What evidence supports this? Also, you realize that the only people who can comment on this are children and that several children believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, right?

The evidence of the paranormal is another story, and though related, that's not the argument here. As is bringing in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, because it's common sense that they don't exist. Whether they did exist in some form, at one time in the past, is another matter entirely, of course.

Darthphere, that's what I mean about someone making a comment that parents wanted to use their child's imagination to make money. I was being facetious; you made it sound like the parents told the kid to tell them specifics so they thought it a good idea to make some $, when it's also common sense no tangible evidence has ever existed.

However first hand accounts of reincarnation have persisted, as does in religion such as Buddhism.

 

[SWAT]

Yea, and I'm a reincarnated Storm Trooper. Damn you Luke Skywalker.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Yea, and I'm a reincarnated Storm Trooper. Damn you Luke Skywalker.

There's an easy way to test for that. Get a gun, aim it straight down and try as hard as you can to hit the ground, if you miss, you just might be.

 

[Wiseman]

There's an easy way to test for that. Get a gun, aim it straight down and try as hard as you can to hit the ground, if you miss, you just might be.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

Are you saying ghosts don't exist? I'm just saying that kids tend to be more in touch with the supernatural world. Of course, for most of the time, that fades away with age.

Don't even try to explain to skeptics about supernatural things and so on. You won't convince them, just like how they can't convince people who believe in such things don't exist. It's the same with religion. Both sides will debate with no result in convincing each other in what each side believes in.

I believe in supernatural things, but I don't know if this story is 100% true, I can't prove it, just like how skeptics can't prove this is fake.

 

[Wiseman]

I'd like to know how this thread went from being



to



to

:facepalm

All within 2 pages

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

It's the hype, it's supernatural

 

[Shemtov]

if he is that fighter pilot Let us hope he has no japanese classmates

 

[Majic Walrus]

The evidence of the paranormal is another story, and though related, that's not the argument here. As is bringing in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, because it's common sense that they don't exist. Whether they did exist in some form, at one time in the past, is another matter entirely, of course.

Darthphere, that's what I mean about someone making a comment that parents wanted to use their child's imagination to make money. I was being facetious; you made it sound like the parents told the kid to tell them specifics so they thought it a good idea to make some $, when it's also common sense no tangible evidence has ever existed.

However first hand accounts of reincarnation have persisted, as does in religion such as Buddhism.

You said that children were more in touch with the spiritual or supernatural side of things. In order to make a statement like that you have to prove that spirits and supernatural things exist.

 

[The Battousai]

Don't even try to explain to skeptics about supernatural things and so on.

Until you have verifiable evidence for such claims, commenting on them as if they are true is rather pointless - as is explaining such things to ratioonal people.

You won't convince them, just like how they can't convince people who believe in such things don't exist.

From my point of view, I'd rather someone understand that a claim without evidence has little value, and that supposing that claim is true without said evidence is a foolish choice to make.

It's the same with religion. Both sides will debate with no result in convincing each other in what each side believes in.

If you're talking about theists vs. atheists, you're mislabeling atheists as believing in their position when it's in fact the exact opposite (i.e. lack of belief). A person may go further and impose a belief regarding such things, but that is not at the root of the initial nonbelief.

I believe in supernatural things, but I don't know if this story is 100% true, I can't prove it, just like how skeptics can't prove this is fake.

When someone makes an extraordinary claim, the burden of proof is solely on the party making said claim. No one has any reason to believe that invisible unicorns exist, yet someone may come along and say, "Well, you can't prove they DON'T exist!" as if that nullifies any valid criticism of te initial concept.

 

[The Battousai]

You said that children were more in touch with the spiritual or supernatural side of things. In order to make a statement like that you have to prove that spirits and supernatural things exist.

Exactly.

Until one's initial assumption (such as the existence of the supernatural/paranormal/etc.) can be supported by evidence, you can't logically pile new things on top of it (i.e. reincarnation/ghosts/etc.).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this is called an "ad hoc" argument.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Exactly.

Until one's initial assumption (such as the existence of the supernatural/paranormal/etc.) can be supported by evidence, you can't logically pile new things on top of it (i.e. reincarnation/ghosts/etc.).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this is called an "ad hoc" argument.

If I remember much about my Socratic method from college and other argument classes did any good I think this is an example of the informal argument "begging the question."

From wikipedia: Begging the question ("petitio principii"): where the conclusion of an argument is implicitly or explicitly assumed in one of the premises

Either way what you said is right.

 

[The Battousai]

If I remember much about my Socratic method from college and other argument classes did any good I think this is an example of the informal argument "begging the question."

From wikipedia: Begging the question ("petitio principii"): where the conclusion of an argument is implicitly or explicitly assumed in one of the premises

Either way what you said is right.

Ah, I see

 

[Dew k. Mosi]

I don't mind the story, I just think writing the book and stuff is exploitive

 

[Majic Walrus]

The exploitation isn't as bad to me as ruining the kid's poor little life forever.

 

[[A]]

I hope this is not a leaked early draft for Captain America

 

[The Lizard]

I'm gonna throw this out there...

So their son is a reincarnated WWII fighter pilot...

Does this really change their day to day lives?

If they make enough noise and get enough publicity to sell their book to millions of suckers, then yes.

 

[pyromaniac]

Don't even try to explain to skeptics about supernatural things and so on. You won't convince them, just like how they can't convince people who believe in such things don't exist. It's the same with religion. Both sides will debate with no result in convincing each other in what each side believes in.

I believe in supernatural things, but I don't know if this story is 100% true, I can't prove it, just like how skeptics can't prove this is fake.

I didn't say I had to convince you. I'm just going off by accounts I've heard of before.

My point was that this story is not the first one I'd heard of, so that's why I'm not surprised.

Same with you, Walrus.