Pedro Pascal is Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic

[Airwings]

With all due respect, we can talk about Krasinski till we are blue in the face. If you dont like it simply ignore.

Personally I dont want a young Reed. Too many teens and young adults in the MCU (Ms Marvel, Kate Bishop, Spidey, Ant Man’s daughter etc. I think they are great btw but there needs to be balance).

Feige needs to desperately fill the elder roles that RDJ and Evans have left. MCU feels like an empty shell of itself without them tbh.

Take it easy. I want Krasinski as much as many of you guys do.
But we should still be able to talk about younger candidates, right?

I tried to bring those into the discussion but nobody gave any response.

By the way, why would people accept a "teenage/young adult" Susan but not the same for Reed?

 

[Fluedd]

By the way, why would people accept a "teenage/young adult" Susan but not the same for Reed?

I do not want a teenage Susan, no way. For casting purposes, I wouldn't want to go any younger than 25, she should have some measure of maturity. Reed as a teenager? Now we're getting into Ultimate FF/Josh Trank Fan4stic territory, and that should be avoided at all cost.

 

[Airwings]

there are some slightly younger actors I've considered/suggested in the past, but, have a hard picturing anyone in her range for Reed

but I've also included actresses in her age range for fan-cast with some of those suggestion (so I think there are some parings that work better then others, even with an age gap)

so, idk you either have to accept an age difference or cast older with Sue

but going younger with Reed isn't really the answer (IMO)

Of course Reed can be cast younger. Why wouldn't it work, in your opinion?
Younger than Krasinski, that is. Yeah, why not?
A guy from late 80s / early 90s.... what's so bad about that?

Why is it hard to imagine those guys next to Saoirse Ronan?
Wouldn't someone like Logan Lerman be a good match age-wise?

 

[Airwings]

I'm just trying to figure out when people in their early - mid 30s started being grouped in with teenagers

Somebody like Nicholas Hoult for example (33)
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Or Penn Badgley (35)
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(Two excellent choices for Reed)

Are not "kids" lol. They're the same age range the Avengers were when they began

I haven't seen Badgley in anything so I won't be able to give my opnion.

Hoult however, is another story. I know about him well, and I can't see at all why he is an excellent suggestion. I'm leaning towards the opposite. Not every good actor suits Reed.

 

[Airwings]

I do not want a teenage Susan, no way. For casting purposes, I wouldn't want to go any younger than 25, she should have some measure of maturity. Reed as a teenager? Now we're getting into Ultimate FF/Josh Trank Fan4stic territory, and that should be avoided at all cost.

But a young adult Susan then, meaning early 20s?

 

[Fluedd]

Of course Reed can be cast younger. Why wouldn't it work, in your opinion?
Younger than Krasinski, that is. Yeah, why not?

I want Krasinski myself. But if they can't get him, sure, go younger why not? I don't mean early 20s young, just younger than Kransinski. Maybe someone in their 30s. He has to have at least a little gravitas.

But a young adult Susan then, meaning early 20s?

As I said, I wouldn't cast younger than 25. Sue should have some level of maturity. I just prefer a somewhat older FF, I don't want to see a bunch of kids playing rocket scientist. Johnny can play the youngster role.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

Of course Reed can be cast younger. Why wouldn't it work, in your opinion?
Younger than Krasinski, that is. Yeah, why not?
A guy from late 80s / early 90s.... what's so bad about that?

Why is it hard to imagine those guys next to Saoirse Ronan?
Wouldn't someone like Logan Lerman be a good match age-wise?

the youngest I'd see going with (and the youngest name I've heard rumored/suggested) that I even kinda got on board with was Penn Badgley at 35 (which is still 6-7 years older then Ronan, but, that isn't a unreasonable age difference)

"Younger than Krasinski, that is..." was not the way the original question was presented
(nor was I've trying to defend that parring)

I read it as a suggestion for "someone Ronan's age" excuse, if I misinterpreted the question

personally I can't see someone like a 30 y.o. Lerman, no (again just a personal opinion) he might of aged, has a little salt&pepper going in his hair, some stubble on his face... but it is still a baby face that stubble is on

I prefer a more mature, distinguished, Reed (someone who looks like they could have reached the level of experience an accomplishments something like Reed has achieved in their life time)

but I'm not the one producing this movie, if a younger cast is what they are going for in general, then that is what we'll get (I can't do much about that) other then hope they at least find a way to write well

 

[Marvel united]

Something feels missing since the last Avengers movie, and you may have hit on it. Losing Chadwick Boseman didn't help either.

I haven't seen Badgley in anything so I won't be able to give my opnion.

Hoult however, is another story. I know about him well, and I can't see at all why he is an excellent suggestion. I'm leaning towards the opposite. Not every good actor suits Reed.

In this clip, ('Tolkien'), you can see how I imagine the scientific gears turning in his head, as Reed -- obsessive, driven by curiosity, and the need to solve everything. He's one of my top choices. I could see Hoult growing into the role.

Plus, he deserves a consolation prize after the FoX-Men movies

 

[Airwings]

In this clip, ('Tolkien'), you can see how I imagine the scientific gears turning in his head, as Reed -- obsessive, driven by curiosity, and the need to solve everything. He's one of my top choices. I could see Hoult growing into the role.

Maybe I should see this biopic.
I just think he doesn't look like a Reed at all.
But somehow, I can in a way imagine his face working for Superman.

Plus, he deserves a consolation prize after the FoX-Men movies

So does Jennifer Lawrence

 

[Airwings]

I want Krasinski myself. But if they can't get him, sure, go younger why not? I don't mean early 20s young, just younger than Kransinski. Maybe someone in their 30s. He has to have at least a little gravitas.


As I said, I wouldn't cast younger than 25. Sue should have some level of maturity. I just prefer a somewhat older FF, I don't want to see a bunch of kids playing rocket scientist. Johnny can play the youngster role.

Early 30s will be a good age when they "go younger" than Krasinski.

Charisma and being able "dominate a scene" is crucial, yes.
Also when it comes to the character. The Avengers will listen to what he has to say, then.
This is why Highmore won't really work. He lacks those traits.
But I can admit he really will suit the science genius part of Reed.

Then to your last paragraph. Applause to you
I've said the same several times. FF should have a sense of gravitas, age-wise. They don't have to be experienced heroes, but they still need some level of maturity. Otherwise, they will appear as "kids" to the veteran heroes.
The older characters won't listen to the "newcomers" if they are too young.

 

[Airwings]

the youngest I'd see going with (and the youngest name I've heard rumored/suggested) that I even kinda got on board with was Penn Badgley at 35 (which is still 6-7 years older then Ronan, but, that isn't a unreasonable age difference)

"Younger than Krasinski, that is..." was not the way the original question was presented
(nor was I've trying to defend that parring)

I read it as a suggestion for "someone Ronan's age" excuse, if I misinterpreted the question

Krasinski IS Reed Richards, by default.
I didn't know I had to explain it.
Of course I meant someone younger than him. Not young as in being a teen.

But it was also referred to someone around Ronan and Lily James' age. An actor who can be a good match for one of them, or both.

personally I can't see someone like a 30 y.o. Lerman, no (again just a personal opinion) he might of aged, has a little salt&pepper going in his hair, some stubble on his face... but it is still a baby face that stubble is on

I prefer a more mature, distinguished, Reed (someone who looks like they could have reached the level of experience and compliments something like Reed has in they life time)

but I'm not the one producing this movie, if a younger cast is what they are going for in general, then that is what we'll get (I can't do much about that) other then hope they at least find a way to write well

What is the deal about certain former child/teen actors which we have seen grow up in the limelight and with people calling them babyfaced even when they become 30 or older?
Maybe our minds play tricks with us? The actual reason could be that we look at those actors and still remember how they looked 15 years ago, and so we apply their young faces onto their current look.
Anyway, let's go with the typical excuse because it suits my cause:
The make-up artists are there to alter an actor's appearance for a role he's playing.
When it comes to Reed and Lerman in particular, these people will make him look just as old as he needs for the character (lol).

Not that I root for him to getting the role. He just happen to be one of the very few male actors born around a certain time, that will fit Reed. And honestly, there isn't much of a competition there.
As I said last week, he won't do it. Superheroes and other special effects driven blockbusters are beneath him. He's a "serious actor" today.
The irony here is that he still agreed to do Bullet Train, which is a "big film" in a sense.

In terms of talent, Aaron Johnson has the upper hand. But for him to play Reed, he needs to lay off his uber masculine style and go for the clean cut appearance he had at the time of (and prior to) Kick-Ass.
Him donning that look again and even being totally clean shaven, at the age of 30, can be really interesting. However, I very much doubt he will agree to that.

EDIT: Look-wise, it seems that Liam Aiken is the strongest candidate.
I'm not saying his acting style is the right one, or that he has the skills for this.
Let's say not. And that he lacks gravitas.
But that look is really suitable for a version of Reed who's old and young at the same time. Put on the superhero costume, and there you have it!!!!
Who would disagree?
Hm, maybe I'm the only who sees it

 

[Spider-Fan83]

yes, maybe 30y.o. actors looking "babyface" is just a trick of the mind... but in the prospective of actors and how Hollyweird cast people, we're use to seeing mid to late 20's actors still playing teen roles (rather it's a mind trick or not, that is how these actors will be seen by the viewers)

I mean look at Holland (an most of his Spider-man co-stars) who are only a few years younger then these 30y.o. actors

rather someone is actually 30+ or not, doesn't automatically reflected in their looks... everyone ages differently (as someone in their late 30's, nearly 40, now) I don't even think of myself as looking anywhere near what I picture for Reed

that said, there certainly are more distinguished and mature looking people who are my age or younger that would make me look "babyface" by comparison

 

[Marvel united]

Liam Aiken would be an interesting choice...

 

[Airwings]

yes, maybe 30y.o. actors looking "babyface" is just a trick of the mind... but in the prospective of actors and how Hollyweird cast people, we're use to seeing mid to late 20's actors still playing teen roles (rather it's a mind trick or not, that is how these actors will be seen by the viewers)

I mean look are Holland (an most of his Spider-man co-stars) who are only a few years younger then these 30y.o. actors

rather someone is actually 30+ or not, doesn't automatically reflected in their looks... everyone ages differently (as someone in their late 30's, nearly 40, now) I don't even think of myself as looking anywhere near what I picture for Reed

that said, there certainly are more distinguished and mature looking people who are my age or younger that would make me look "babyface" by comparison

Maybe our minds play tricks with us, yes.
We still see the teen actor's face 15 years later, hidden beneth a beard lol

As you say, people grow older in their own way. Nobody matures at the same speed. Some still have a youthful vibe, others not.

 

[Airwings]

Liam Aiken would be an interesting choice...

Hmm, maybe he's a more interesting choice than I expected.

 

[Airwings]

Liam Aiken would be an interesting choice...

Should he become suggested for the role?
Will the actor be an age-suitable match for Lily James? (and for Imogen Poots who's being discussed in the Susan thread right now)

 

[Originalavenger]

With a better script and director, I think Ioan Gruffudd could have played a decent Reed.

I don’t think Brandon Routh could do it under any circumstance. He has the stage presence of a wet dish towel.

If they announced him, I’d be more disappointed than I was with Miles Teller.

Sorry I disagree!! With a much better script and director on point I think Brandon rough would play an excellent reed richards!! He can only act off of the dialogue!! I also wouldn’t be surprised if DC wanted him that “needy”

 

[Spider-Fan]

Pass on Brandon Routh. Fine TV actor, but not a movie star

 

[Airwings]

Sorry I disagree!! With a much better script and director on point I think Brandon rough would play an excellent reed richards!! He can only act off of the dialogue!! I also wouldn’t be surprised if DC wanted him that “needy”

He's "too much" Superman. It will be really hard to accept him as another major superhero in tights, too distracting

 

[Dark Raven]

He's "too much" Superman. It will be really hard to accept him as another major superhero in tights, too distracting

I don't know about too much Superman. He's already played the Atom in Legends of Tomorrow which now makes him too much Atom.

 

[Airwings]

I don't know about too much Superman. He's already played the Atom in Legends of Tomorrow which now makes him too much Atom.

His Atom was only a TV character. Who never had tights.
When Routh returned to his version of Supes in a crossover, it felt like the had gotten home again. To where he belonged.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Sorry I disagree!! With a much better script and director on point I think Brandon rough would play an excellent reed richards!! He can only act off of the dialogue!! I also wouldn’t be surprised if DC wanted him that “needy”

I don’t even remember saying this.

But I stick by it. I think Routh is a far better Clark Kent than Superman and a far better Superman than Reed Richards.

 

[Originalavenger]

Just so you all know I’m more like f a John krasinski guy!! I’m not pushing hard for Brandon routh but thought he was a good secondary choice!! I’m alm for differentiating actors and roles though!!

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I’m not a fan of Krasinski either, and my reason for not wanting either Krasinski or Routh is similar - they both seem like nice guys.

I think I’d love hanging out with either of them.

I wouldn’t want to hang out with Reed Richards. He wouldn’t be fun and easy to talk to. He’d be intense and intimidating.

 

[Airwings]

I wouldn’t want too hang out with Reed Richards. He wouldn’t be fun and easy to talk to. He’d be intense and intimidating.

Are you sure he will be like that? Sounds more like Doom.

Well, why shouldn't Krasinski be able to portray Reed that way? He's an actor!