People who haven't even read the books.

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  1. Morgoth Registered

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    I've noticed alot of people on here that haven't even picked up a comic, and they have the nerve to say how great the movies are and so on, when they don't even know what they're talking about.

    It's a shame Singer, who didn't read the comics, ruined the movies and stretched out a story that could've been done in one movie, then you come on here and there are people telling the actual fans that they are wrong and the movies are perfect.

    Real fans who actually know the comics want more out of these movies. I wonder if the studio saw this crap online and took it wrong and that was part of not trying to make it more like the books.

    Those who haven't read the comics aren't real fans and need to shut up.

    It's not just X-men either, it's all over here. Real fans unite. Hopefully one day a real X-men movie series will be done.
     
  2. PWN3R Instagram:@Mannie_Bothans

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    X-men Begins 2015....:up:
     
  3. Halcohol Suit up

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    Go f_ck yourself, how bout that?

    The X-Men universe is more than the comics, it includes the novels, movies, video games, and such. Now I may not have taken the time to sit down and read 400+ issues of Uncanny X-Men, and I've only read a few issues of Ultimate, but I'm not ******ed when it comes to knowledge of the comics.

    Who the hell are you to tell me I'm not a real fan? If you don't want to have to listen to people such as myself, go hang out in the comics forum.

    But don't have the gall to tell me I'm not a real fan.
     
  4. CConn Fountainhead of culture.

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    Morgoth has about 10% of a point, but completely destroys it by stacking upon it his insulting and utterly incorrect, IMO, logic and analysis.

    Now I'm going to go smoke bubbles out of a pipe.

    PS - Halcohol, buy this or I'll throw rocks at you.
     
  5. Sentinel X optical illusion

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    I agree with Halchool, I dont read comics that much but I love X-men so much and Im a huge fan.Ill read novels,watch old episodes, ect.

    ...btw Ccon is right, read Astonishing X-men...it is soooo good!! :eek: :up:
     
  6. Halcohol Suit up

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    I think I just might...
     
  7. _BB_ Its been a while...

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    Ive never read a comic book in my life but it doesnt mean i have no knowledge of the characters, their backstories and all the different timelines. I consider myself to be a huge xmen fan and you have to be if you are going to post on these forums.

    Its all thanks to uncannyxmen.net :up:
     
  8. Avalanche Tremor

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    Oh, that's nonsense.

    The movies weren't made only for the comic fans. They were made for the general public. The general public have every right to say they like the films without knowing anything about the comics.

    Personally, I've never read a comic in my life. I've seen both movies many times over, and seen every episode of the animated series, but never touched a comic. That doesn't make my opinions on the films worthless. I'd really like to get into the comics so I'd have more of an idea about the comic universe, but not simply so I can come down on those who know nothing about them.
     
  9. Halcohol Suit up

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    I've been reading the synopsis of Astonishing X-Men on uxm.net, and it looks pretty damn good.

    I've already got my order placed on amazon :) Thanks, CConn!
     
  10. Paste Pot Pete No, I build a rocket.

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    I hate the geek elite. It's ironic how the socially unaccepted become the most unaccepting of all. It's the only thing about being a comic book fan that embarrasses me.

    That's right; I'm damn proud of my collection of nude Harley Quinn pics.

    But you all should start reading; there's a reason they make movies outta this stuff. :up:
     
  11. FieryBalrog Registered

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    I've read a ton of comics and I like the movies a whole lot. Are they perfect? No, but they're still some of the best comic movies out there. I do think the movies shouldnt deviate wildly from the comics just because executives decide this or that is more stupidly marketable, but the X-men movies are great in keeping the spirit and ideals of the X-men and some generally good character work.

    thats total BS. The X-men have gone beyond being only comic book stories. And there are plenty of true fans who have never picked up a comic in their lives.
     
  12. squeekness The mighty squeek!

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    I'm going to have to agree with Halcohol and FieryBalrog on this one, too. X-men is more than the comics, it's more than the movies, too. You've got a whole generation of kids who were hooked on the TAS cartoon as well. Yeah, I read the comics,but that doesn't make me a better judge of X-men than anyone else.
     
  13. Mister J Enlightened to the Great Darkness

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    I'm in favor of a faithful comic adaptation as anyone, but big budget comic-based movies will likely never be made for the hardcore fan. They have to appeal to a larger market and that means sacrificing a few canonical elements to jibe with what Hollywood feels is marketable.

    If the general public showed no interest in these movies, even if they were 100% comic accurate and fanboys loved them, there'd be no huge box office and the entire comic book-movie well would dry up. Given that, I don't mind that some of what I see on the screen runs counter to what is in the books.

    All you need to be a 'real' X-Men fan, or any property for that matter, is an appreciation for the material. That stands regardless of what medium you're familiar with; comics, TV series, video games, etc.
     
  14. GNR Registered

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    Come on,it's Morgoth,of course he's going to start flaming people.

    I totally disagree.For the past year I've only picked up one x-title and eventually stopped after 3 months.I don't read anything x-related anymore but that doesn't mean I don't have anything insightful to say about the movie.
     
  15. rjb182 Jedi Gnat

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    In ALL fandoms, especially the comic book/sci-fi/fantasy ones, the fan community basically has two choices:

    Embrace anybody with an interest in the subject, no matter how they got there, welcome new blood, and thrive.

    Or create some pointless standard of "true fandom" so that your message boards devolve into the same dozen people sitting around, arguing over who's the bigger geek.

    I've seen it happen. It ain't pretty. Acceptance is the way to go.

    Think about this-- *millions* more people saw the X-Men movie than buy the comic every month. Like it or not, THAT's where your new fans are coming from now. If you talk to them in a civil manner about how cool the comic books are, and how they really should try them, then you might convert a few people and the comics will benefit. But nobody wins if you drive them away...
     
  16. Cyclops Registered

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    Those who want to limit fanship only to those of us who have read the comics and are snotty uptight bastards like Morgoth aren't real fans and need to shut the hell up.
     
  17. Sun_Down Groovy

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    Jesus, what's with all these types of threas popping up everywhere? It's the same juvenile *****ing in every one, too. Live and let live, nobody wants to read this crap anymore.
     
  18. Morgoth Registered

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    I am a real fan, not like those who don't know what the hell they're talking about, all they know is the movies, and then they bash people who wanted to see more, but they have no place to talk since they don't know what the X-men's potential truly is.
     
  19. Cyclops Registered

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    A real fan would never try to discredit someone else's fanship based on their knowledge of the material. So what if they start with movies or cartoons or whatnot? They still love the characters, and that's what's important.

    If you can't appreciate that, you should get offline so you never ever have to be subjected to other fans ever again.

    Or so other fans never ever have to be subjected to you, more accurately.

    I'll take note of the fact that you didn't even try to discredit the "snotty uptight bastard" bit. :p
     
  20. Quing Registered

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    I concur.

    The movies have brought more people into the X-Men fandom (which is a good thing), and just because they haven't read the comics, it is no reason to get angry and belittle them. Who knows? They may decide to start reading the comics. And even if they don't, they are still fans. That's like saying that someone who reads Ultimate has no right being happy with the way it is going just because they haven't read any comics from the 616 universe.
     
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    X-Men is more than just comics!!! There are all kinds of x-men fans! There are lots of different x-men comic series, I haven't read them all, and I've actually really disliked some, but i've really liked others. I liked TAS, but not Evolution. SO what? There are so many different variations on the X-Men, there is no definitive x-men.

    A lot of fans who read the comics enjoyed the movies. Obviously we all have different preferences when it comes to the x-men because there are so many different interpretations. So just because you have read the comics and didn't like the way the x-men were portrayed in the movies, that doesn't mean you are right and everyone else is wrong. That's just being ignorant and single-minded.

    So shut up you dork :)
     
  23. The Storm Registered

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    Well put :up:

    I'll confess to never reading the comics, I grew up on TAS. Many people have stated the fact that X-Men has gone beyond comics and I think its the only empire (stemmed from comics) that any person can relate to. Who hasn't felt alienated or hounded because they were different? I having an understanding of X-Men from the TAS, Evolution and both movies. The SHH! is also a great place to gain knowledge from, I've become an even greater fan since coming here. Why not educate people instead of telling us to shut up?
     
  24. AeonFlux Guest

    I AGREE!!!!!!!!! I feel like I'm the only X-Men fan who read the comics that hates the movies to death! But I've come to realize that most people here lie when they say they have been fans and have read the comics and love the movies! Me and my younger sisters have been baffled as to how X-Men fans could like those pieces of crap!? My brother used to love the films(he was the one that got us into X-Men when we were kids back in the early early 90s. But now he is starting to see the light and how bad they really are. He hates Anna Packin just like me and my sisters cause she ruined Rogue(along with the Director). But anyways I agree with you and you are not alone!
     
  25. SickBoy Registered

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    It's ok to like both the movies AND the comics! Yeah they are different in a lot of ways, but that doesn't mean either is bad. I think the movies work just fine. Part of this is because the x-men characters in the comics have gone through so many different variations. There have been tons of X-titles, tons of different writers, tons of takes on all the characters. So we probably all have somewhat diffferent ideas of who the characters are in our own minds.
     

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