The Defenders Phase 2

[Norrin Parker]

I think it'd be cool if Winter Soldier got a tv show after the movie. He could fight villains like Batroc, Nuke, Sin, Taskmaster, Red Ghost and maybe the Watchdogs. Then maybe have Punisher, Daredevil, Maria Hill, Deathlok, and maybe Black Widow guest star.

 

[Dasher10]

The Daredevil, Heroes for Hire, Moon Knight and Punisher lineup sounds great to me.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think it'd be cool if Winter Soldier got a tv show after the movie. He could fight villains like Batroc, Nuke, Sin, Taskmaster, Red Ghost and maybe the Watchdogs. Then maybe have Punisher, Daredevil, Maria Hill, Deathlok, and maybe Black Widow guest star.

Didn't Joe Johnston say he wanted to make a film about the Winter Soldier character?

 

[Norrin Parker]

Didn't Joe Johnston say he wanted to make a film about the Winter Soldier character?

I'd love that too, though I think a tv show could explore the character a bit better. Just too bad its not very likely.

 

[Gr0oT]

I've avoided CA:TWS spoilers but I can more likely see him taking up the Cap mantle after Evans retires so they might want to reserve him and his storylines for the films rather than a show.

 

[Norrin Parker]

I've avoided CA:TWS spoilers but I can more likely see him taking up the Cap mantle after Evans retires so they might want to reserve him and his storylines for the films rather than a show.

Well I don't see Evans leaving til at least A3 and there's plenty of stories to use for Winter Solider. Also his stories as Bucky Cap are different in a way than when he's Winter Solider.

 

[Silvermoth]

Didn't Joe Johnston say he wanted to make a film about the Winter Soldier character?

I have to be honest, I think joe johnsons time has passed

 

[Norrin Parker]

I have to be honest, I think joe johnsons time has passed

He doesn't really fit the character in my eyes. He did well with Cap in the 40s though.

 

[Silvermoth]

In my opinion he didn't even do that but I agree that it looks like cap belongs to the russos from now on, at least for a little while

 

[Loki882]

Let Joe Johnson make that Boba Fett movie that he's wanted to for years, I'd actually be interested in seeing that.

 

[Norrin Parker]

Let Joe Johnson make that Boba Fett movie that he's wanted to for years, I'd actually be interested in seeing that.

Yes!

 

[seahammer]

Some great ideas for a "wave 2" line up in here. In addition to Daredevil season 2, a Heroes for Hire season with Luke Cage, Iron Fist, etc., and a new hero (like Punisher), I'd love for wave 2 to have one series focused on a villain. I see that someone above mentioned Winter Soldier, but I was thinking Taskmaster would be a great character to focus a season around.

The show could focus on his underground training facility, and he could mimic the fighting styles of all the different heroes we'd seen so far while training his new recruits. We could cameo a bunch of other street-level villains, and Tasky's backstory could be explored if necessary (but maybe it isn't). He could play a role in another tie-in mini series either as a tenuous ally (maybe he is united with the heroes by a common interest), or as a secondary villain.

What do you guys think? Or is there another villain that you'd like to get their own series?

 

[fixxxer]

^

That's a really good idea, but if they were doing a villain-centric series, I don't think it should just be a bad guy going after a worse bad guy and/or teaming up with a hero, since that would make him more of an anti-hero than a villain. Marvel already has enough of those (cue stylistically drawn skull image). The Taskmaster idea is a really good idea, though. Mine is a complete fan-wank, and dependent on Fox's upcoming Fantastic Four movie falling apart and the rights returning to Marvel. I know, a long-shot, but... *crosses fingers*

Doom: Rise Of Latveria

A single season that would span, maybe, fifteen years starting out with Victor graduating college and culminating in the present day with him installed as the dictator of the small Eastern European state of Latveria. Would not involve the Fantastic Four, but would merely allude to them, thus perfectly setting up a future Fantastic Four movie.

 

[seahammer]

Thanks, fixxxer. You're probably right that a team-up with the heroes would dilute his villain-ness, so maybe in the mini-series he would be a secondary villain.

As for your Doom idea... that IS a juicy fanwank. If only...

 

[Loki882]

^

That's a really good idea, but if they were doing a villain-centric series, I don't think it should just be a bad guy going after a worse bad guy and/or teaming up with a hero, since that would make him more of an anti-hero than a villain. Marvel already has enough of those (cue stylistically drawn skull image). The Taskmaster idea is a really good idea, though. Mine is a complete fan-wank, and dependent on Fox's upcoming Fantastic Four movie falling apart and the rights returning to Marvel. I know, a long-shot, but... *crosses fingers*

Doom: Rise Of Latveria

A single season that would span, maybe, fifteen years starting out with Victor graduating college and culminating in the present day with him installed as the dictator of the small Eastern European state of Latveria. Would not involve the Fantastic Four, but would merely allude to them, thus perfectly setting up a future Fantastic Four movie.

I don't wish for a movie to fail ever. I find it really petty.

 

[fixxxer]

I don't wish for a movie to fail ever. I find it really petty.

If the movie does get made, I hope it's good (though, with the news coming out of that camp, I find it highly unlikely) since the FF deserve a strong big screen portrayal. However, I do hope that Fox decides against making it so that the rights can revert to Marvel.

I don't think it's at all petty to wish that a movie that looks intent on taking a crap on the source material doesn't get made. In any case, we're getting off-topic, and this discussion can be taken to another sub-forum. We can debate this there, if you wish to continue the discussion.

 

[fixxxer]

I think a lot of people here seem to be sold on Heroes For Hire, Punisher and a second season of Daredevil for Marvel/Netflix's "Wave 2". Assuming they don't expand with an additional show, that leaves one slot.

My take on the ideas thus far, in descending order of plausibility:
* Moon Knight (just seems a really good fit)
* Cloak And Dagger (there have been rumors in the past)
* Blade (would prefer to introduce him in a supernatural team-up and then go from there)
* The Runaways (don't think it connects too well to the Netflix/Marvel corner of the MCU)
* Taskmaster (maybe Marvel can show Sony how it's done )
* Ghost Rider (see Blade... also, CGI feasibility on a TV budget needs to be considered)
* Winter Soldier (think they'll prefer to save him for the films)
* Doom: Rise Of Latveria (self-acknowledged fan-wank )

 

[metaphysician]

I don't think Ghost Rider's feasibility needs to be considered. Its very seriously *not* feasible.

 

[fixxxer]

I don't think Ghost Rider's feasibility needs to be considered. Its very seriously *not* feasible.

Yup, the implication being that the level of CGI that would be required for Ghost Rider on a TV budget would render it not feasible.

 

[Jasyn]

> She-Hulk - if not in an independent show, at least as an introduction of Jennifer Walters as a lawyer and a She-Hulk origin episode somewhere. I don't think this will ever happen in a separate Hulk movie.
> Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers version)
> Black Panther (if MCU will not grow some balls and do this as a movie)
> Moon-Knight
> Cloak & Dagger
> Power-Pack
> Spider-Woman (if Agents of SHIELD does not make this realization happen with Skye)

 

[Kaboom]

Moon Knight
New Warriors
Heroes for Hire

Deadpool would be great if he wasnt owned by Fox

 

[Tymminator]

Moon Knight
Blade
Shang Chi
Heroes for Hire
White Tiger
Daughters of the Dragon
Cloak & Dagger
Punisher

 

[Tymminator]

I would like to add five more if we can slip out of strictly street level characters to others...

Quasar

Wonderman

Hercules (I think he could be interesting and funny. If done correctly without being corny) with Amadeus Cho.

Mockingbird (not just another SHIELD show, instead of being like Coulson's unique investigative team, this would be closer to TWS and ALIAS. Pure spy and mission stuff, with the occasional AOS crossover. Still in a superhero world, but deals with stuff "higher" than the usual street stuff. Probably some cool cross-overs with the other net-flix characters too.

Spectrum(Photon/Captain Marvel II)

 

[metaphysician]

What possible relevance could any of those people have for a Defenders show? None of them are street level, except arguably Mockingbird ( and only very arguably ).

 

[Tymminator]

What possible relevance could any of those people have for a Defenders show? None of them are street level, except arguably Mockingbird ( and only very arguably ).

Wonderman and Hercules at one point were both associated with the Defenders.

For the other three, like I said earlier, I was simply stepping outside the "street level" theme for characters I would like to see, and still fit in the Defenders.

If you only want to keep them street level, that's one thing, but that's why I opened with my qualifier.

The Defenders was historically the "non-team" team, so it's would be a great vehicle for various MCU characters to appear and although from memory Quasar, Spectrum and Mockingbird were three characters who were never Defenders, by the nature of the concept of the Defenders comic, it really would not be odd for them to pop up as a member if even only for one mission and I could see them on the team in that particular case.

Again, IMO.

I have to add, I overlooked Nighthawk and Hellcat as I just felt those were givens. <shrug>