Pictures of A.W.E.S.O.M.E - Part 22

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Holy crap... I'm pretty sure that's the Stroud Mall in Stroudsburg, Pa. I went to school in the Poconos and that was our local place to see movies. I was just back there to see SW:TFA with my mom and grandma two weeks ago.
 
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Jealous of traces? Never.

They're just higher quality Greg Land.

My thought has always been....unless you can do better, don't dismiss a piece of art as not "art" (and then even if you can do better, why be "that guy" and complain about someone else's art) .....because I have been drawing/painting for over 50 years and have never made anything that looked as good as that guy's "tracings".
 
Everyone should go look up what Neal Adams has to say about tracing.
 
My thought has always been....unless you can do better, don't dismiss a piece of art as not "art" (and then even if you can do better, why be "that guy" and complain about someone else's art) .....because I have been drawing/painting for over 50 years and have never made anything that looked as good as that guy's "tracings".
I didn't say it wasn't art. It's equivalent to filtering pics on instagram. I don't need to be better to dismiss a tracing job.
And you probably never made anything as good in 50 years, because you didn't trace anything, you actually did the work yourself, instead of copying others and changing it ever so slightly.
Everyone should go look up what Neal Adams has to say about tracing.
I've looked it up and it's kind of bull**** to me.
There's a difference between photo referencing and direct tracing. Tracing is not anti-intellectual, and yes while it's possible to learn from it, it is the equivalent to training wheels on a bike; You may technically have balance, but it's those training wheels that are giving it balance, not you.

And tracers get absolutely no respect or positivity from me.
 
My thought has always been....unless you can do better, don't dismiss a piece of art as not "art" (and then even if you can do better, why be "that guy" and complain about someone else's art) .....because I have been drawing/painting for over 50 years and have never made anything that looked as good as that guy's "tracings".

I concur. There was a guy yrs ago in the fan-art section who would take a photo and trace the basic outline in ink and then color the rest in pencil. This dudes shading techniques were unreal. I couldn't be that precise to save my life.
 
My thought has always been....unless you can do better, don't dismiss a piece of art as not "art" (and then even if you can do better, why be "that guy" and complain about someone else's art) .....because I have been drawing/painting for over 50 years and have never made anything that looked as good as that guy's "tracings".

My issue with Land is that he uses the exact same traces over and over. I've seen comparisons for four or five of the same faces where he mostly just resizes them then reuses them over dozens of issues. He's one of the reasons I lost interest in UFF.

I may not be able to do better but I can still critcize what I don't like. :p
 
I concur. There was a guy yrs ago in the fan-art section who would take a photo and trace the basic outline in ink and then color the rest in pencil. This dudes shading techniques were unreal. I couldn't be that precise to save my life.
It was precise because he traced it....:dry:
 
I didn't say it wasn't art. It's equivalent to filtering pics on instagram. I don't need to be better to dismiss a tracing job.
And you probably never made anything as good in 50 years, because you didn't trace anything, you actually did the work yourself, instead of copying others and changing it ever so slightly.

I've looked it up and it's kind of bull**** to me.
There's a difference between photo referencing and direct tracing. Tracing is not anti-intellectual, and yes while it's possible to learn from it, it is the equivalent to training wheels on a bike; You may technically have balance, but it's those training wheels that are giving it balance, not you.

And tracers get absolutely no respect or positivity from me.
Then show your work or shut up.
 
You can find his Leonardo da Vinci works through his deviantart page. :o
 
I agree with Majik (God help me!) about tracing I find it undercuts the people who can conceptualize a picture with their own brain. I don't even use references normally just recall from memory and technics used to understand the dynamics of the human form when I draw.
 
Then show your work or shut up.

If you will re-read the posts in here....you will see that people were disagreeing while being civil about it. I suggest you try being civil with your posts. You will last longer that way.
 
You will last even longer if you weren't a returning banned user......
 
PBUs are invading the Hype Awards! Bar the doors!
 
KevanG you're still alive? I thought I put that hit out on you months ago... Paulie's got some splainin to do. :o
 
Paulie asked me if I was the guy and I told him I moved to the moon. Paulies working for NASA now trying to finish the hit.
 
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