Planet Terror V.S. Death Proof

[Charlie No-One]

I know we have a Grindhouse thread, but I wanted to see through a poll which one you guys thought was better.

 

[Mr. Credible]

huh... i could have sworn we did this thread already. maybe that was in the comingsoon forums. oh well.

i think death proof had one of kurt russell's best performances ever (which is saying a lot), one of the best car chases ever (again, saying a lot), and one of the best endings ever (again, a lot)... but over all, fell flat, like, really flat as a "film", even as a spoof of a genre of films that are supposed to be bad. the pacing was awkward and jarring, (the 2 acts just don't fit well together) it's like watching death proof, then death proof II, all in an hour and a half, back to back, and the sequel is a direct rehash of the first. oh, and zoe stuntlady whatever her name is, bless her heart for getting on the roof of that car and doing awesome things, but i hope she never acts again. her line delivery was just plain downright aweful, and tarantino normally knows how to pick good actors, and get good acting (at least, his style of good acting) in his films.

all that said, i didn't hate death proof, it just wasn't the best movie in this double feature, and is definately toward the bottom of the tarantino totem pole, in my opinion.

i'm tired of typing, so i'll just say that planet terror, while not a perfect representation of "grindhouse cinema" (ie: it was actually good, a lot of action, the acting in between action scenes isn't just crappy filler, etc...) was the better movie all around, and was infinately more enjoyable. i think even the most die hard QT fan should be able to admit that.

which was better 'grindhouse/exploitation' is up in the air, but which was the better movie is pretty clear, i think.

 

[Charlie No-One]

Yes, there was a thread in the ComingSoon boards.

I thought both movies were both good and fit the genre well.

 

[Mr. Credible]

yeah, like i said, i didn't hate death proof, not by a long shot, but after planet terror, it just fell flat (for the most part) for me. a lot of the dialogue was good, obviously, being a QT film, but a lot of it was delivered terribly.

oh well, like you said, still both enjoyable, for the most part.

oh, and while i'm in here, eli roth needs to get 3 or 4 million dolllars together and make THANKSGIVING!!! i can't imagine it would take too long, and after that trailer, depending on how grindhouse does at the box office, it would make a killing!

 

[Backdrifter]

Planet Terror was cheap thrills. Death Proof was raw and real. You were scared for Zoe when she was on the hood of that car. In the end, Death Proof was more satisfying than Planet Terror.

 

[The Chairman]

I think they were both equally good. Planet Terror was more entertaining, and Death Proof gave more depth to the characters, but in the end they both were equally satisfactory.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

Didnt really care for death proof, i loved planet terror .

 

[Backdrifter]

Dp felt more like an actual exploitation film. PT was more like a self aware spoof of the genre. I think QT understood what he was trying to do more than Rodriquez.

 

[iceberg325]

Its really hard to compare the 2. Planet terror is more entertaining but death proof is more in depth. I loved both of them

 

[Dodger]

I liked deah proof. I have to disagree on zoe, i thought she was adorable and I fell in love with her and her amazing rack. She was ok as an actress, passable.
But I loved stuntman mike. I loved how his charecter went through all thse stages and the scene in the car was so funny. DeathProof actually had me scared for the actresses it felt like at any moment someone was going to die.

My favorite trailer was MACHETE.

 

[iceberg325]

Its really hard to compare the 2. Planet terror is more entertaining but death proof is more in depth. I loved both of them

 

[Matt]

I voted they both sucked. Death Proof just did nothing for me. Planet Terror on the other hand, well one critic whose review I read summed it up for me pretty well. It pretty much said Rodrigez's homage to old exploitation movies was more of one of someone who heard of them but never actually seen one. Planet Terror would've worked better if it wasn't tied down by being part of this Grindhouse idea.

 

[K.B.]

I think DP fell flat and I really didn't enjoy it as much as PT.
With DP it changed film stock half way through (after we leave the hospital) it goes from being grainy and dirty etc to clean and looking just like a reguler movie and found that a bit jarring.
Also I think the movie would have worked better had we ended in the hospital. We perhaps set up this idea of a crazed driver killing young kids in the midwest (or wherever it took place) then we go through it like we did and end with the sherifs explanation like we did but we see outside and we find the car sitting there looking all evil and ominouse (ala "christine").
With PT I thought Rodreigez really understood and pulled off the whole idea/homage of the Grindhouse genra. He got me to enjoy a movie about zombies and I honestly HATE zombies, as I feel the genra has been overly exposed within the last 6 years with movies/comics/video games and even clothing.

 

[CAH]

Both Were Equally Good IMO.

Planet Terror had much more action and maybe a bit more of a story, but Death Proof was just...WOW...its indescribable. The ending/last 20 minutes of Death Proof is so good...I would've payed $20 to just see that.

CAH

 

[DarthRekal]

huh... i could have sworn we did this thread already. maybe that was in the comingsoon forums. oh well.

i think death proof had one of kurt russell's best performances ever (which is saying a lot), one of the best car chases ever (again, saying a lot), and one of the best endings ever (again, a lot)... but over all, fell flat, like, really flat as a "film", even as a spoof of a genre of films that are supposed to be bad. the pacing was awkward and jarring, (the 2 acts just don't fit well together) it's like watching death proof, then death proof II, all in an hour and a half, back to back, and the sequel is a direct rehash of the first. oh, and zoe stuntlady whatever her name is, bless her heart for getting on the roof of that car and doing awesome things, but i hope she never acts again. her line delivery was just plain downright aweful, and tarantino normally knows how to pick good actors, and get good acting (at least, his style of good acting) in his films.

all that said, i didn't hate death proof, it just wasn't the best movie in this double feature, and is definately toward the bottom of the tarantino totem pole, in my opinion.

i'm tired of typing, so i'll just say that planet terror, while not a perfect representation of "grindhouse cinema" (ie: it was actually good, a lot of action, the acting in between action scenes isn't just crappy filler, etc...) was the better movie all around, and was infinately more enjoyable. i think even the most die hard QT fan should be able to admit that.

which was better 'grindhouse/exploitation' is up in the air, but which was the better movie is pretty clear, i think.

i agree with this right here.. i love them both.. but the movie in ITS ENTIRTY??? Planet Terror hands down... Death Proof..kinda dragged at times and like you said was really two movies and someone else pointed out changed from grainy to clean.. and stuntman mike went from fearsome and mysterious to cowardly and vulnerable... kinda made me forget that he was supposed to be a killer.. but i loved Kurts perfomrance and loved death proof...just Planet Terror does more for me

 

[Mr. Socko]

The first part of Death Proof was great, then it started sucking majorly. So the following is only about the second sucky part of DP.

Dialogue was long boring and sucked, unlike RDogs and Pulp F.

Stuntman Mike went from being a pimp to a little b!tch. In the first one, he would get to know the women then lure them into his trap. In the second stupid part, he just started tailgating them, giving the first part no reason.

Zoe sucked. She's a stuntwoman for a reason, and should stay that way.

The story was too lame. They took a car just so Zoe could hold on to a belt buckle while riding on top of it. How stupid.

The ending sucked. I hated that dumb ironic ending. But thats what happens when you make Kurt Russel a crying p****

If DP had stayed in the same style as the first part, it would have been better than PT.

 

[Backdrifter]

The first part of Death Proof was great, then it started sucking majorly. So the following is only about the second sucky part of DP.

Dialogue was long boring and sucked, unlike RDogs and Pulp F.

Stuntman Mike went from being a pimp to a little b!tch. In the first one, he would get to know the women then lure them into his trap. In the second stupid part, he just started tailgating them, giving the first part no reason.

Zoe sucked. She's a stuntwoman for a reason, and should stay that way.

The story was too lame. They took a car just so Zoe could hold on to a belt buckle while riding on top of it. How stupid.

The ending sucked. I hated that dumb ironic ending. But thats what happens when you make Kurt Russel a crying p****

If DP had stayed in the same style as the first part, it would have been better than PT.

So basically the entire film went completely over your head?

lol.

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

For those of you who liked Death Proof, how were any of long chick conversations interesting? I know it's supposed to help us understand the characters, but when badass Kurt Russel is left to linger for most of the film, whats the point? I feel that Tarantino screwed the pooch with this one. Planet Terror was awesome.

 

[Hunter Rider]

So basically the entire film went completely over your head?

lol.

Instead of being smug why don't you explain to him what he supposedly missed ? it's the easiest cop out in the world to defend a movie you liked by telling the person that didn't "You didn't understand it"

 

[Charlie No-One]

I think he did explain it. Everything that he listed that made the movie bad was actually what the movie was supposed to be. Grindhouse movies had bad acting and outlandish plots and writing. The thing with Stuntman Mike was a bit weird though. I think it was supposed to show that he was vulnerable.

 

[Backdrifter]

If you could not see the comedy in a "Stuntman" being a big *****. I really do not want to waste my time trying to explain the movie to you.

 

[Matt]

Instead of being smug why don't you explain to him what he supposedly missed ? it's the easiest cop out in the world to defend a movie you liked by telling the person that didn't "You didn't understand it"

Amen to that, and as seemingly the only person on the Hype who didn't like it, I expect to get many of those. Though I have already argued with many people outside the Hype and recieved several "You didn't get it"s. It wasn't a matter of not understanding the homage or the point, or whatever. I simply like what I like, and I didn't like Grindhouse.

 

[Hunter Rider]

If you could not see the comedy in a "Stuntman" being a big *****. I really do not want to waste my time trying to explain the movie to you.

I never asked you to explain to me,ive not seen the movie but in a disscussion topic i would hope you have more fleshed out points and less snide remarks

So does the irony of the Stuntman being a ***** make it a good movie ?what about all of the other complaints leveled at the movie ?

 

[cyborg ninja 14]

If you could not see the comedy in a "Stuntman" being a big *****. I really do not want to waste my time trying to explain the movie to you.

Aside from the random character change in Stuntman...mark? What about "The View" scenes with the groups of girls talking, and talking, ect. Explain that and why it was worthwhile.

 

[Golgo-13]

Planet Terror

Death Proof like ALL of Tarantino's films take way to long to get to the point...and way to much unnecessary dialogue. :